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#283535
Lame race... You have the fastest driver and then puncture... I hate when it goes that way... But, at least Kobayashi had a good race...


I wouldn't say the race was lame, but I wouldn't say it was all that exciting either.

Why?

Well, I would have liked to have seen just a little racing between Vettel and Hamilton. I actually think it might have been quite close and good to watch. By having the puncture immediately we were denied even the slightest inkling as to where the pace of the two was at.

Are the McLarens getting closer to the Red Bulls? Is Hamilton really back to his best? Was Vettel going to run off into the distance and hide 5 seconds ahead? Was Lewis conserving his ultimate pace knowing he had more than enough to beat Alonso's Ferrari? No idea, because the DNF came so quickly. Even the most ardent Lewis/McLaren fans might acknowledge that it might have been better for the two to have raced even for a few laps but alas it was not to be.

Congratulations to Lewis who must feel with this win he is slightly coming to the end of a long dark tunnel. However I still got the feeling his celebrations were rather subdued and that he is still not the happiest he has ever been.

Great race from Alonso too. No way is that car worthy of a close second place at the moment and yet there he is keeping Lewis honest right to the very end. Whatever you think of the guy you have to admire his sheer bloody minded doggedness.

As for Webber and Massa the less said about those two the better. There was a reason why Webber 3 stopped and that was because he cooked his 2nd set of soft tyres too quickly and had to make a stop early. Was never going to progress on the original strategy so had little to lose by swapping over. Still didnt change anything (although is hindsight it might have been interesting to see how a fully commited 3 stopper would have gone against the majority 2 stoppers) but he ended up with a lucky 4th after Massa typically poor race punctuated by a needless spin under absolutely no pressure. Why 2 of the best 6 seats in F1 have to be made up with two such also runs is beyond me.

Brazil next and this is usually a Red Bull circuit and hasn't really been a McLaren one for some years now. Heck we might even see some performance from Webber there. Unlikely to be as close a race at the front as we potentially had here which for me makes Vettel's immediate DNF pretty frustrating.
#283537
I still think the tyre was slightly knocked off the rim at T1 and then once it was loaded in turn 2, the tyre completely capitulated.
#283540
I still think the tyre was slightly knocked off the rim at T1 and then once it was loaded in turn 2, the tyre completely capitulated.


I've looked at the replays a lot and it looks as if the wheel was separated from the rim a bit before it was loaded and gave out entirely.Perhaps Red Bull will figure out exactly what happened, but I just don't think if it had been merely a puncture that they would have spent the amount of time they did looking at the uprights.

Lame race... You have the fastest driver and then puncture... I hate when it goes that way... But, at least Kobayashi had a good race...


I wouldn't say the race was lame, but I wouldn't say it was all that exciting either.

Why?

Well, I would have liked to have seen just a little racing between Vettel and Hamilton. I actually think it might have been quite close and good to watch. By having the puncture immediately we were denied even the slightest inkling as to where the pace of the two was at.


Personally I would have rather have seen an all out battle between Lewis and Vettel even if Vettel came out on top.
#283543
Lame race... You have the fastest driver and then puncture... I hate when it goes that way... But, at least Kobayashi had a good race...


It was indeed. Even viewed at high speed it was boring as hell. I'm going to buy a tin of paint and paint a wall so I can watch it dry and get the excitement fix that I should have got yesterday.


This is coming from andrew, who reckoned India was a thriller :rofl:
#283545
I must admit that I was, like many others, hoping for a Vettel Vs. Hamilton battle... Well, there's still Brasil and, not to mention, the next season! :wink:


:yes:

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I felt the race suffered as a result of Vettel's immediate departure. McLaren's form in EVERY session up until Q3 makes me believe Seb and Lewis could've had a fairly close race.

Wasn't a classic, but was BETTER than India. :wink:
#283547
Lame race... You have the fastest driver and then puncture... I hate when it goes that way... But, at least Kobayashi had a good race...


It was indeed. Even viewed at high speed it was boring as hell. I'm going to buy a tin of paint and paint a wall so I can watch it dry and get the excitement fix that I should have got yesterday.


This is coming from andrew, who reckoned India was a thriller :rofl:


India was a good bit better. Didn't see the leader make a single overtaking move - thought the internet would be upset at that but I guess not. :hehe:
#283549
Let me see, Vettel starts from pole, makes over a second lead by the time the DRS gets turned on.

Button laps like a metronome and turns up at the end in second place. (3rd place)

Massa and Hamilton have an argument and ruin each others race.

Webber starts close to the front and is 6th by the 1st corner and then becomes an also ran.

Alonso it all depends on how he feels as to where he finishes.

Rosberg will qualify 7th

Schumacher if nothing goes wrong will qualify behind Nico and finish in front of him. (right behind)

The Force India's can not be bothered to waste fuel or tires in Q3 so they see out the top 10.


At the back of the grid will be Heikki ahead of Jarno "the power steering is crap" Trulli.

Followed by the Virgins and the HRT's

So who else will be loose in Q1... I would say a Williams


some of these were freakishly accurate.


Bold ones turned out accurate, with minor adjustments in brackets. Damn good effort, I'd say. :thumbup:


to be fair, it is what has happened at almost every race this year. However I did not expect both Williams to do so well in qualifying.


personally, had Vettel's tyre had not blown, he would have run away with it. i thought the race was over by the first corner. was happy to see it wasnt after the second :hehe:
#283552
I still think the tyre was slightly knocked off the rim at T1 and then once it was loaded in turn 2, the tyre completely capitulated.


The only thing I can think off it wasn't up to correct temp yet and was put under too much load in the first two corners.
#283556
Lame race... You have the fastest driver and then puncture... I hate when it goes that way... But, at least Kobayashi had a good race...


It was indeed. Even viewed at high speed it was boring as hell. I'm going to buy a tin of paint and paint a wall so I can watch it dry and get the excitement fix that I should have got yesterday.


This is coming from andrew, who reckoned India was a thriller :rofl:


India was a good bit better. Didn't see the leader make a single overtaking move - thought the internet would be upset at that but I guess not. :hehe:


But there was much more overtaking in general and more things going on that in India!

At least, despite the winner, I said numerous times that the race wasn't the best. However, you described India as being great. Which it wasn't!

Ah well, it just goes to show even you are tarred with the fanboy brush in reality, dear chap! :thumbup:
#283560
But there was much more overtaking in general and more things going on that in India!


Was there? Can't remember there being all that many passes in Abu Dahbi. Probably much the same as India.

At least, despite the winner, I said numerous times that the race wasn't the best. However, you described India as being great. Which it wasn't!


Personal preference. India was a much more entertaining race than the disappointing procession that turned out to be the Abu Dahbi GP. India is a better track though.

Ah well, it just goes to show even you are tarred with the fanboy brush in reality, dear chap! :thumbup:


Am I? Doubt it very much. Fanboys are not F1 fans. I am an F1 fan so cannot be a fanboy. The sport comes first then driver and team preferences.
#283565
India was more boring if you ask me. Atleast in AD we had the thread of Alonso taking the lead at the last stop. India the win was a foregone conclusion.

I think Lews right Andy as to why you enjoyed India more. Besides you even admitted you were fast forwarding most of the race... Real fan huh :wink:
#283568
I think Lews right Andy as to why you enjoyed India more. Besides you even admitted you were fast forwarding most of the race... Real fan huh :wink:


Yeah I was looking forward to this race, I freely admit that as it is a good track but this year was dull. Even if Vettel had won (which he would have if it wasn't for yon bloody tyre) it would have still been dull. The only excitment was Massa and Webber early on.
#283570
Dunno if Vettel would have romped away, Lewis' pace was strong so with two drs it might have been a fight. But will never know. Button and webber was also fun to watch but overall the threat of Alonso was always there so seeing him and Lew pushing to the very end until the last stop is interesting to a race fan.
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