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[Hammer278]

Ouch

[spankyham]

It's just a pity they haven't been able to improve on that first model

[Jabberwocky]

I have to disagree, for me Verbiest did most of the work

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[LRW]

I have to disagree, for me Verbiest did most of the work

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Is steam propelled within the 2014 regs???

[Jabberwocky]

Heat collection is

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[CookinFlat6]

Maybe Merc should get special vetos and extra money for their historical significance, and for having brought cars to F1

[What's Burning?]

and the first question is asked of them when they get there is... tell us about the traction control Vettel used in Singapore.

SKY SPORTS Mercedes have announced what they describe as "two key engineering appointments" after luring Mark Ellis and Giles Wood from World Champions Red Bull.

The Silver Arrow might be losing Team Principal Ross Brawn, who departs at the end of the year, but the team's efforts to bolster their technical knowhow elsewhere are clearly continuing unabated.

Ellis will join the team as Performance Director, with Wood taking up the position of Chief Engineer, Simulation and Development. Both will start work in June 2014.

Earlier this year, Mercedes recruited former McLaren Technical Director Paddy Lowe, who joined as Executive Director (Technical) and will replace Brawn at the helm next season alongside the team's commercial boss Toto Wolff.

Prior to that, the Brackley team hired big names like Bob Bell (Technical Director), Aldo Costa (Engineering Director) and Geoff Willis (Technology Director) as they sought to get back to winning ways.

Mercedes drivers Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg won a total of three races last season, helping the team to second place in the Constructors' Championship. However, they have long targeted the 2014 season - when F1 undergoes a major technical shake-up - for a title bid.

Red Bull have, of course, had a stranglehold on the World Championship for the last four seasons and are already losing aerodynamics chief Peter Prodromou, who is set to rejoin McLaren in 2015.

In a statement, Mercedes said the arrival of Ellis and Wood "will further strengthen the team's technical organisation, particularly in the fields of simulation and vehicle dynamics".

[LRW]

This tells me one of two things. a) the RedBull engineers are sick of winning, and want an actual challenge next season OR b) the RedBull engineers LOVE winning, and know where RedBull are with next years car, and know its not good enough.

[CookinFlat6]

All the 'too many chefs' brigade are strangely silent nowadays

[What's Burning?]

There's a lot of pressure to bring home at least one championship in 2014.

[CookinFlat6]

Tell me about it! look at my sig

[darwin dali]

If Mercedes hadnt invented the motorcar in the first place, there would be no F1 and Ferrari would likely be a bicycle producer today

It was Karl Friedrich Benz - Mercédès Jellinek, the daughter of entrepreneur Emil Jellinek, didn't do diddly-squat.

[racechick]

If Mercedes hadnt invented the motorcar in the first place, there would be no F1 and Ferrari would likely be a bicycle producer today

It was Karl Friedrich Benz - Mercédès Jellinek, the daughter of entrepreneur Emil Jellinek, didn't do diddly-squat.

But Mercedes Benz is the full name now.

[CookinFlat6]

If Mercedes hadnt invented the motorcar in the first place, there would be no F1 and Ferrari would likely be a bicycle producer today

It was Karl Friedrich Benz - Mercédès Jellinek, the daughter of entrepreneur Emil Jellinek, didn't do diddly-squat.

Yup it was both Daimler and Benz, Daimler own Mercedes Amg.

[Jabberwocky]

All the 'too many chefs' brigade are strangely silent nowadays

Nope. This year will be the proof in the pudding.

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