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#232480
HRT's chief of engineering Toni Cuquerella breaks omertà and publicly admits KERS is a publicity hoax perpetrated by the manufacturers.


HRT have a chief of engineering? Is he also the bloke that drives their trucks?


:rofl: yes he probably is!
#232525
HRT's chief of engineering Toni Cuquerella breaks omertà and publicly admits KERS is a publicity hoax perpetrated by the manufacturers.


HRT have a chief of engineering? Is he also the bloke that drives their trucks?


:rofl: yes he probably is!


I heard he also does the washing up when the kitchen/pit crew are busy.
#232583
As far as I'm concerned this is the best news I've heard for 2011. For me, it's great to see LDM and Ferrari taking the lead on this.

LDM/Ferrari are looking to delay (hopefully forever) the introduction of the new engine. Full article here.


Ferrari president Luca Di Montezemolo is keen on delaying the introduction of Formula One's new engine formula, which is set to power the sport from 2013 onwards.

When the FIA recently announced that 1.6 litre engines would be introduced in 2013, Montezemolo expressed some displeasure, before adding he 'wouldn't stand in the way' of change.

Now though, it seems the Italian is looking for allies in an attempt to delay or completely scrap the new regulations.

"We won't be building any four-cylinder engines for our street cars," he told Auto Motor und Sport.

"A Four-cylinder engine, it sounds, for the top tier of motorsport, a bit puny.

"Why could we not agree on a V6 Turbo? We should not confuse affordable with cheap."

The 63-year-old is hoping other engine manufacturers, particularly Mercedes, will support him in delaying the changes.

"If there is the slightest possibility to delay the four-cylinder [regulations], I'll try, I perceive a chance, but we need unity."
#232584
LDM makes me laugh; it's unlikely that Mercedes will be swayed! Mercedes actually make cars with four cylinder engines and as people move towards economical cars rather than gas guzzling V8/10/12s, that's more likely to be their core business in the coming years. Ferrari is the only manufacturer that has a vested interest in V6/8/10/12 engines in Formula 1. If F1 is to become more road relevant then smaller engine with energy recovery systems is the way to go. Although a 1.6 L4 turbo does seem tiny, it doesn't mean it has to be puny in the power stakes, remember the old 1.5L turbo's those engines put out more than 1200hp. In real terms, the difference in the speed and acceleration of the current V8s and the new L4 turbos will be minimal! If F1 does not suit Ferrari/FIAT's business model, then like their fellow manufacturers Honda, BMW, Toyota and Honda it's time to make for the exit, that only makes good business sense, that is talking from a business sense only, not from a sporting sense!
#232588
LDM makes me laugh; it's unlikely that Mercedes will be swayed! Mercedes actually make cars with four cylinder engines and as people move towards economical cars rather than gas guzzling V8/10/12s, that's more likely to be their core business in the coming years. Ferrari is the only manufacturer that has a vested interest in V6/8/10/12 engines in Formula 1. If F1 is to become more road relevant then smaller engine with energy recovery systems is the way to go. Although a 1.6 L4 turbo does seem tiny, it doesn't mean it has to be puny in the power stakes, remember the old 1.5L turbo's those engines put out more than 1200hp. In real terms, the difference in the speed and acceleration of the current V8s and the new L4 turbos will be minimal! If F1 does not suit Ferrari/FIAT's business model, then like their fellow manufacturers Honda, BMW, Toyota and Honda it's time to make for the exit, that only makes good business sense, that is talking from a business sense only, not from a sporting sense!


Happy new year myown, hope you had a good one.

As to your post, hmmmmm. Where to begin.

Mercedes - we will see I guess.

v6/8/10/12 no more must equal gas guzzling than 1.5l turbos must equal low power - both are ridiculous statements. F1 is not and never should be about the mediocrity of the average mass-selling production cars. If you are really concerned about energy efficiency and total resource usage then think carefully before you throw out the v6/etc in favour of small battery/turbo/hybrid engines.

F1 suits Ferrari/FIAT's business model fine. And don't make the totally ridiculous implication that cars for the masses, including turbos aren't part of their groups total business. In fact, FIAT arguably are bringing the most innovative and best turbo technology to market this year with their Multiair engines.
#232590
I had a good new years, how about you?

"We won't be building any four-cylinder engines for our street cars," he told Auto Motor und Sport.

Doesn't that rather contradict your statement about how FIAT are leading the way in development of four cylinder turbo engines? Yes I realise that he is referring to the Ferrari brand not the FIAT brand, but does that not mean that F1 does not suit Ferrari's business agenda from 2013 onwards? As I said; from a business point of view; F1 does not showcase what Ferrari road cars have to offer, so therefore does not suit their business interests. I am not talking from a sporting point of view, from a sporting point of view, we'll still see cars travelling at 200mph+ down the Monza start finish straight. F1 engineers will always find ways to get a little more speed out of their package.
#232591
I had a good new years, how about you?

"We won't be building any four-cylinder engines for our street cars," he told Auto Motor und Sport.

Doesn't that rather contradict your statement about how FIAT are leading the way in development of four cylinder turbo engines? Yes I realise that he is referring to the Ferrari brand not the FIAT brand, but does that not mean that F1 does not suit Ferrari's business agenda from 2013 onwards? As I said; from a business point of view; F1 does not showcase what Ferrari road cars have to offer, so therefore does not suit their business interests. I am not talking from a sporting point of view, from a sporting point of view, we'll still see cars travelling at 200mph+ down the Monza start finish straight. F1 engineers will always find ways to get a little more speed out of their package.


The beef here is all about business as you state. Ferrari and Mercedes are the two premier engine suppliers, if there's a regulatory change allowing the new engines the whole business would/could be turned upside down for a few years, and other manufacturers, Renault, now focusing only on engines, VAG if they come in, and Mercedes all stand to gain more than Ferrari.
#232592
I had a good new years, how about you?

"We won't be building any four-cylinder engines for our street cars," he told Auto Motor und Sport.

Doesn't that rather contradict your statement about how FIAT are leading the way in development of four cylinder turbo engines? Yes I realise that he is referring to the Ferrari brand not the FIAT brand, but does that not mean that F1 does not suit Ferrari's business agenda from 2013 onwards? As I said; from a business point of view; F1 does not showcase what Ferrari road cars have to offer, so therefore does not suit their business interests. I am not talking from a sporting point of view, from a sporting point of view, we'll still see cars travelling at 200mph+ down the Monza start finish straight. F1 engineers will always find ways to get a little more speed out of their package.


A bit silly really mate, I don't think any of the actual F1 engines go into any road car - if we were measuring by that standard there be no-one racing in F1 today.

This is about F1 trying to be driven by the mediocrity of the mass produced production cars and a false sense of being somehow "green". LDM is saying that he thinks that F1 should be about superlatives and leading edge. Not a 4 cylinder donk that the better brains on this forum could probably get close to putting together in a garage over a few weekends with a basic turbo engine and parts from local auto-shops.
#232593
Either Ferrari will succeed, or they wont, mindsets aren't going to be changed here. "more" doesn't mean the cutting edge of technology. If the rules specified a 2 stroke weed wacker engine, I have full confidence that F1 engineers would find a way to get it up to 200 Mph, IMO that's engineering.
#232594
Either Ferrari will succeed, or they wont, mindsets aren't going to be changed here. "more" doesn't mean the cutting edge of technology. If the rules specified a 2 stroke weed wacker engine, I have full confidence that F1 engineers would find a way to get it up to 200 Mph, IMO that's engineering.

We already have those racing series here:
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And here are the pros in drag:
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#232597
Well you never know. Mercedes currently put a massive 6.3L V8 in their SLS and other sports cars, i really doubt they are going to turn around one day and say we are cutting the engine size in half for our sports cars.

Ferrari surely wouldnt do it, i mean what kind of arab billionaire is going to want a tiny 4 cylinder engine when he can go to the competition and buy a thumping V8!
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