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[Robert12010]

Andrew Benson is pretty unbiased, in my opinion of course.

Massa moving over for him in Germany isn't indicative Alonso's a poor driver.

I agree with you and there are not many like him.

nobody said that, nobody implied that and nobody thought that, this and other topics are on whetjer he can be judged best ofnseason, so
stop crying and read the avtual posts (properly) it seems everyone that isnt an alonso fan will male constant digs at anything otherwise and alonso
fans make constant digs at anything likewise. alonso not only didnt won tje title
( for whatever reasons indont care so dont gimme excuses)
but he is undoubtesdly the most arrogant amd/or bad sporting driver in f1, if he wasnt the best driver on the grid hed be kicked out already, for those two reasons specifically he should not be no.1 neither should lewis before you undoubtedly turn this on
him like every othern time, rosberg,kubica, vettel or webber
should be top clearly.

Why do you believe that Alonso is the most arrogant and bad sporting driver in F1. I think I have a closest image from him than you and probably more accurate. You have a perception of Alonso through all those journalists that you’re calling biased. Everything comes from 2007 when Alonso was at McLaren, since then everything that Alonso makes or says has a different treatment than if there were another driver. You should know that.
He has made mistakes as anybody else. But he isn’t arrogant at all, unless the journalist asks him if he’s a dirty champion or questions like that. On track he´s one of the fairest drivers. For example, when has him create an incident while overtaking or been overtaken.Could you compare him with Michael Schumacher? Or even with Lewis Hamilton when he “closes the door” as he says, sending the other driver outside the track while everybody smiles and says: Oh, what a boy!

im just going to bring up something here, prehaps your right in most circumstances, but remember when when alonso was racing lewis at spa in 07, it was clear that alonso basiclly smashed lewis off the road and forced him off the track at like 150 mph, now is that fair?

[nish2280]

Wasnt it at La Source?
He didnt really smash him off, just ran wide because he was too fast on the inside.

If it was then i dont think it was 150mph anyway!

[Robert12010]

Wasnt it at La Source?
He didnt really smash him off, just ran wide because he was too fast on the inside.

If it was then i dont think it was 150mph anyway!

I cant remember, but i think it was between la source and eau rouge, well yeah, il have to have a look at the clip if i can find it on youtube,
well prehaps not 150 but you know what i mean

[nish2280]

BTW, Vettel won best International Racing Driver of the year at the AUTOSPORT awards.

[Jack Master]

Wasnt it at La Source?
He didnt really smash him off, just ran wide because he was too fast on the inside.

If it was then i dont think it was 150mph anyway!

I cant remember, but i think it was between la source and eau rouge, well yeah, il have to have a look at the clip if i can find it on youtube,
well prehaps not 150 but you know what i mean

That’s what I wanted to say. It should be much easier to find it, if we were talking about the most arrogant and bad sporting driver in Formula 1. Now take a look at Michael Schumacher record. I guess you don’t have to take so much time an effort to remember some of the nice things that he did and continues doing. Or Lewis.

[Robert12010]

yeah true michael has shown his hard style at times this year and i thought that at hungary he went way too far!

[bud]

Alonso is the patron saint of jack master

[Jack Master]

Alonso is the patron saint of jack master

I believe he is neither saint nor devil. He has made wrong things as any other, but since 2007 everything that he does get an especial treatment from the British Media and Public. Sometimes this treatment is pretty biased and unfair. But he’s just a driver, not a saint.
If you could watch and follow F1 and every race trough the Spanish TV you could see that it’s the same biased thing than at Britain but just the opposite. One of the commentators during the races is so stupid and biased that you need to see him to believe.
You know what I mean, everybody is biased but some people try to be fair and others don`t care.

[bud]

Alonso is the patron saint of jack master

I believe he is neither saint nor devil. He has made wrong things as any other, but since 2007 everything that he does get an especial treatment from the British Media and Public. Sometimes this treatment is pretty biased and unfair. But he’s just a driver, not a saint.
If you could watch and follow F1 and every race trough the Spanish TV you could see that it’s the same biased thing than at Britain but just the opposite. One of the commentators during the races is so stupid and biased that you need to see him to believe.
You know what I mean, everybody is biased but some people try to be fair and others don`t care.

And would you not also say that in the Spanish media Lewis is treated unfairly and with bias or is it only for Alonso in Britain?

Again remember I'm not even British so any comments of bias extend so much.

[Jack Master]

Alonso is the patron saint of jack master

I believe he is neither saint nor devil. He has made wrong things as any other, but since 2007 everything that he does get an especial treatment from the British Media and Public. Sometimes this treatment is pretty biased and unfair. But he’s just a driver, not a saint.
If you could watch and follow F1 and every race trough the Spanish TV you could see that it’s the same biased thing than at Britain but just the opposite. One of the commentators during the races is so stupid and biased that you need to see him to believe.
You know what I mean, everybody is biased but some people try to be fair and others don`t care.

And would you not also say that in the Spanish media Lewis is treated unfairly and with bias or is it only for Alonso in Britain?

Again remember I'm not even British so any comments of bias extend so much.

Yes off course, it’s just what I’ve said. In Spain Lewis is treated as Alonso in England or sometimes in Australia. Almost everybody hates Hamilton and consider him and stupid and spoiled boy.
It becomes very difficult to analyze the facts in an objective and fair way because everything changes depending on the point of view.
You also have a closer view on Lewis and me on Alonso, because in Spain you can watch and read a lot of news and interviews about Alonso. You perceive him more as a person and less as just a driver. I guess it’s the same with Lewis in England and Australia. You know, the idiomatic barrier.

[bud]

Actually in Australia it's all Mark Webber.
There is no bond between Australia and Lewis. In fact Australians love beating England at sports, Just look at our rivalry in Cricket or Rugby for an example. So you can't throw Australians in the same boat as the British in regards to how they view Alonso or Lewis.

[Jack Master]

Actually in Australia it's all Mark Webber.
There is no bond between Australia and Lewis. In fact Australians love beating England at sports, Just look at our rivalry in Cricket or Rugby for an example. So you can't throw Australians in the same boat as the British in regards to how they view Alonso or Lewis.

Not at all, but even being Webber fans, they have a far easily approach to Lewis than to Alonso, because they speak the same language and the news about Alonso many times reach Australia previously biased for the British Media influence.
Anyway, you are right; I’ve talked about Australia just because of you. I’ve heard that Alonso and Webber are very close friends, for the standards of F1 off course.

[F1er]

The SPANISH MEDIA????? THEY MAKING MOVIES ABOUT LEWIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEkK9g3KMVE

[FRAFPDD]

Alonso is the patron saint of jack master

I believe he is neither saint nor devil. He has made wrong things as any other, but since 2007 everything that he does get an especial treatment from the British Media and Public. Sometimes this treatment is pretty biased and unfair. But he’s just a driver, not a saint.
If you could watch and follow F1 and every race trough the Spanish TV you could see that it’s the same biased thing than at Britain but just the opposite. One of the commentators during the races is so stupid and biased that you need to see him to believe.
You know what I mean, everybody is biased but some people try to be fair and others don`t care.

i actually have to apologise for assuming you were an alonso worshipper as this post clearlu shows you have quite a level head. just try not to berate hamilton just cause this forum might have more fans of his then anyone else or else people will assume your just a hater, as for your reply to my post i think alonso is sytill the most arrogant but schumacher is still the dirtiest thats just my opinion, i still respect them as much as anyone else its just how i feel.

[McLaren]

One driver that surprised me was Schumi! How chill and relaxed he seemed,always while the rest

So as an F1 EXPERT i vote SCHUMI the driver of 2010!

You would be relaxed if you were going that slowly