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[racechick]

We'll never know how the grid would really have looked. It's safe to say that Vettel and Heidfeld, being quite light on fuel, had the potential to improve their grid positions. Rosberg could, potentially, have beat Hamilton. That Q2 lap was something special and even though Hamilton didn't do an extra lap, I'm not sure he'd have gone faster.

This statement of yours is the more unresonable. You are saying Lewis would not have improved when all evidence is that most likely he would have done. All of them should have improved barring incident, thats what happens in Q3... so why say lewis probably wouldnt?

[bud]

purely because he didnt want Lewis to!

[cap-dude]

Well Lewis did his first run on new tyres, whilst a lot of the other drivers didn't. It only makes sense that the others had more room for improvement.

[bud]

Well Lewis did his first run on new tyres, whilst a lot of the other drivers didn't. It only makes sense that the others had more room for improvement.

NO one is saying they wouldnt have, we are only saying there is no reason why Lewis wouldnt have improved also!

[vaptin]

he might have, or rosbergs lap might have improved above lewis's improvement,

No one actually knows!

[RA Dunk]

Going by the performance of Lewis/Mclaren over the course of the weekend i dont think there would have been any change in pole position

[Denthúl]

Thank you for proving that you disagree with me purely because you don't like it. Nothing I said was unreasonable, Hamilton may have gone faster, he may not.
r.

No i cant be bothered with this hypothetical BS! the fact is you saying missing an apex or not taking a corner "fast" is not a mistake makes me think you dont know what youre talking about and this discussion over!

Hmm, what I believe I said was:

Well, he wouldn't necessarily have to make a mistake to not go faster. Not taking a specific kerb, or carrying a little less speed in to a corner, doesn't count as a mistake but would potentially cost him the time necessary, which is why I said I'm not sure. Having not seen the lap onboard Nico's car, I could not say either way.

"missing an apex" != "Not taking a specific kerb"
"not taking a corner "fast"" != "carrying a little less speed in to a corner"

It wouldn't be so bad if you didn't twist everything to suit your argument, just so that you could have one. Some drivers don't find all of the fastest ways around a circuit, but often enough to be faster than the rest. It's entirely plausible that Rosberg found something that Hamilton hadn't. That doesn't mean Hamilton made a mistake.

We'll never know how the grid would really have looked. It's safe to say that Vettel and Heidfeld, being quite light on fuel, had the potential to improve their grid positions. Rosberg could, potentially, have beat Hamilton. That Q2 lap was something special and even though Hamilton didn't do an extra lap, I'm not sure he'd have gone faster.

This statement of yours is the more unresonable. You are saying Lewis would not have improved when all evidence is that most likely he would have done. All of them should have improved barring incident, thats what happens in Q3... so why say lewis probably wouldnt?

"lewis probably wouldnt" != "I'm not sure he'd have gone faster"

The above comment applies to you, also. I did not say that he probably wouldn't, I said I'm not sure he would have. As in, there were factors that could have prevented it, although there's every chance he could have done.

purely because he didnt want Lewis to!

I don't mind who gets pole (and indeed, at the time in the chat, I said that he probably would and I wouldn't mind if he did). All I was saying was I couldn't say either way whether he would have been faster or slower than the other two on the next set of laps. Please, actually read what I'm writing instead of just trying to argue. It's childish and at your age, you should probably know better.

[bud]

oh shut up mate please, you talk alot of s*** you should expect it to be put in its place! youre the one making accusations of a hyperthetical situation when you have no evidence other than heirsay to back up your claim. I on the other hand am saying there is no reason why Lewis wouldnt have gone faster based on previous GPs where he(as most drivers) has gone faster on his last run!

[Denthúl]

oh shut up mate please, you talk alot of s*** you should expect it to be put in its place! youre the one making accusations of a hyperthetical situation when you have no evidence other than heirsay to back up your claim. I on the other hand am saying there is no reason why Lewis wouldnt have gone faster based on previous GPs where he(as most drivers) has gone faster on his last run!

Once again:

"Please, actually read what I'm writing instead of just trying to argue. It's childish and at your age, you should probably know better."

[bud]

oh shut up mate please, you talk alot of s*** you should expect it to be put in its place! youre the one making accusations of a hyperthetical situation when you have no evidence other than heirsay to back up your claim. I on the other hand am saying there is no reason why Lewis wouldnt have gone faster based on previous GPs where he(as most drivers) has gone faster on his last run!

Once again:

"Please, actually read what I'm writing instead of just trying to argue. It's childish and at your age, you should probably know better."

once again you talk s***!

[racechick]

Denthul, you're splitting hairs. I thought we were discussing the probability of Lewis retaining pole not semantics!

(Lewis probably wouldnt= Im not sure Lewis would) Same thing
(Not taking a corner fast=carrying a little less speed into a corner) Same meaning.
Whats your point?

[Denthúl]

Denthul, you're splitting hairs. I thought we were discussing the probability of Lewis retaining pole not semantics!

We were, but then you appeared to start replacing things I said with things you wanted to hear me say that you could argue about it, so I thought I'd clarify it for you.

(Lewis probably wouldnt= Im not sure Lewis would) Same thing

"Lewis probably wouldn't" would be me making a prediction and implying that he had less speed. "I'm not sure Lewis would" is me saying that, as simply as it is written, I'm not sure he would have been the faster on the next laps.

(Not taking a corner fast=carrying a little less speed into a corner) Same meaning.

Hardly. "Not taking a corner fast" would imply that a driver was driving slowly. "Carrying a little less speed into a corner" would imply that they may not have found the best line.

[bud]

yes but by not finding the best line causing a slower lap than his previous would then be classified as a mistake. Like i said mate you dont know what youre talking about clearly! youre digging yourself a hole over some pointless thing just to keep face!!

[ivey]

Start will be epic. I believe in Hamilton but he makes me nervous in starts.

[7UpJordan]

Start will be epic. I believe in Hamilton but he makes me nervous in starts.

Another "Fuji moment" on the cards today?