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[Tony_sa]

OK don't get me wrong here, but your underating Lewis alot hes better overall than rubens and if you look at his past two seasons especialy 07 he was quick consistant and had a great podium hit rate.

Now that said i think they should keep Rubens because that car is gonna be difficult to setup and LH won't be able to use Jenson's setup because the driving styles are diffrent.

And i'm not sure hes gonna be as good as Rubens as setting up the car.

And i 100% think he should stay with Mclaren even if they are banned because it will shut up all the people who doubt his loyalty.

But wouldn't it be great to see him and Jenson race...

I didn't question Lewis's ability, I said he was not a better choice than Rubens.

The last thing Brawn needs is to swap clever Barrichello, who knows how to play the percentages, for "Win or die" Lewis, who's liable to bin the car at least half as often as he gets to be first.

i was getting at this bit.

And I stand by it. Lewis drives on the ragged edge with a win or bust mentality. A team like Brawn does not need a driver like that, they need a cool-headed river who knows when to hold station and take the points.

Amen brother... you do realise if there any truth to the hamilton/brawn issue - mercedes wud be behind it. .not mcheaters! - but then again - what do we know

[Denthúl]

OK don't get me wrong here, but your underating Lewis alot hes better overall than rubens and if you look at his past two seasons especialy 07 he was quick consistant and had a great podium hit rate.

Now that said i think they should keep Rubens because that car is gonna be difficult to setup and LH won't be able to use Jenson's setup because the driving styles are diffrent.

And i'm not sure hes gonna be as good as Rubens as setting up the car.

And i 100% think he should stay with Mclaren even if they are banned because it will shut up all the people who doubt his loyalty.

But wouldn't it be great to see him and Jenson race...

I didn't question Lewis's ability, I said he was not a better choice than Rubens.

The last thing Brawn needs is to swap clever Barrichello, who knows how to play the percentages, for "Win or die" Lewis, who's liable to bin the car at least half as often as he gets to be first.

i was getting at this bit.

And I stand by it. Lewis drives on the ragged edge with a win or bust mentality. A team like Brawn does not need a driver like that, they need a cool-headed river who knows when to hold station and take the points.

So what your saying is that they dont need a world champion like Lewis.
Doesnt quite compute that

What he's saying is that they do not need somebody who makes huge mistakes along the lines of those at Sepang, Sakhir, Montreal, Magny-Cours, Monza and Fuji.

[Jensonb]

OK don't get me wrong here, but your underating Lewis alot hes better overall than rubens and if you look at his past two seasons especialy 07 he was quick consistant and had a great podium hit rate.

Now that said i think they should keep Rubens because that car is gonna be difficult to setup and LH won't be able to use Jenson's setup because the driving styles are diffrent.

And i'm not sure hes gonna be as good as Rubens as setting up the car.

And i 100% think he should stay with Mclaren even if they are banned because it will shut up all the people who doubt his loyalty.

But wouldn't it be great to see him and Jenson race...

I didn't question Lewis's ability, I said he was not a better choice than Rubens.

The last thing Brawn needs is to swap clever Barrichello, who knows how to play the percentages, for "Win or die" Lewis, who's liable to bin the car at least half as often as he gets to be first.

i was getting at this bit.

And I stand by it. Lewis drives on the ragged edge with a win or bust mentality. A team like Brawn does not need a driver like that, they need a cool-headed river who knows when to hold station and take the points.

So what your saying is that they dont need a world champion like Lewis.
Doesnt quite compute that

...

Are you illiterate? Because I'm pretty sure I itemised the reasons they do not need him. Go back and read it.

Being a World Champion does not make you a driver any given team needs. Jacques Villeneuve is a case in point. Brawn already have a driver who is winning easily, so there is no point in hiring Lewis.

[Lordblackstuff]

OK don't get me wrong here, but your underating Lewis alot hes better overall than rubens and if you look at his past two seasons especialy 07 he was quick consistant and had a great podium hit rate.

Now that said i think they should keep Rubens because that car is gonna be difficult to setup and LH won't be able to use Jenson's setup because the driving styles are diffrent.

And i'm not sure hes gonna be as good as Rubens as setting up the car.

And i 100% think he should stay with Mclaren even if they are banned because it will shut up all the people who doubt his loyalty.

But wouldn't it be great to see him and Jenson race...

I didn't question Lewis's ability, I said he was not a better choice than Rubens.

The last thing Brawn needs is to swap clever Barrichello, who knows how to play the percentages, for "Win or die" Lewis, who's liable to bin the car at least half as often as he gets to be first.

i was getting at this bit.

And I stand by it. Lewis drives on the ragged edge with a win or bust mentality. A team like Brawn does not need a driver like that, they need a cool-headed river who knows when to hold station and take the points.

So what your saying is that they dont need a world champion like Lewis.
Doesnt quite compute that

...

Are you illiterate? Because I'm pretty sure I itemised the reasons they do not need him. Go back and read it.

Being a World Champion does not make you a driver any given team needs. Jacques Villeneuve is a case in point. Brawn already have a driver who is winning easily, so there is no point in hiring Lewis.

You guys cant be serious.

Are you trying to tell me if you were the owner of a team and were spending millions of your own money you wouldnt seriously want the CURRENT world champion on your team.
Dont make me laugh

[Denthúl]

OK don't get me wrong here, but your underating Lewis alot hes better overall than rubens and if you look at his past two seasons especialy 07 he was quick consistant and had a great podium hit rate.

Now that said i think they should keep Rubens because that car is gonna be difficult to setup and LH won't be able to use Jenson's setup because the driving styles are diffrent.

And i'm not sure hes gonna be as good as Rubens as setting up the car.

And i 100% think he should stay with Mclaren even if they are banned because it will shut up all the people who doubt his loyalty.

But wouldn't it be great to see him and Jenson race...

I didn't question Lewis's ability, I said he was not a better choice than Rubens.

The last thing Brawn needs is to swap clever Barrichello, who knows how to play the percentages, for "Win or die" Lewis, who's liable to bin the car at least half as often as he gets to be first.

i was getting at this bit.

And I stand by it. Lewis drives on the ragged edge with a win or bust mentality. A team like Brawn does not need a driver like that, they need a cool-headed river who knows when to hold station and take the points.

So what your saying is that they dont need a world champion like Lewis.
Doesnt quite compute that

...

Are you illiterate? Because I'm pretty sure I itemised the reasons they do not need him. Go back and read it.

Being a World Champion does not make you a driver any given team needs. Jacques Villeneuve is a case in point. Brawn already have a driver who is winning easily, so there is no point in hiring Lewis.

You guys cant be serious.

Are you trying to tell me if you were the owner of a team and were spending millions of your own money you wouldnt seriously want the CURRENT world champion on your team.
Dont make me laugh

A world championship means nothing. There are greater drivers who have never won one, and rubbish drivers that have won plenty.

[Jensonb]

You guys cant be serious.

Are you trying to tell me if you were the owner of a team and were spending millions of your own money you wouldnt seriously want the CURRENT world champion on your team.
Dont make me laugh

...Okay, it's painfully clear to me you understand and know nothing about motor racing, so I'm just going to ignore you now.

Bye

[Lordblackstuff]

OK don't get me wrong here, but your underating Lewis alot hes better overall than rubens and if you look at his past two seasons especialy 07 he was quick consistant and had a great podium hit rate.

Now that said i think they should keep Rubens because that car is gonna be difficult to setup and LH won't be able to use Jenson's setup because the driving styles are diffrent.

And i'm not sure hes gonna be as good as Rubens as setting up the car.

And i 100% think he should stay with Mclaren even if they are banned because it will shut up all the people who doubt his loyalty.

But wouldn't it be great to see him and Jenson race...

I didn't question Lewis's ability, I said he was not a better choice than Rubens.

The last thing Brawn needs is to swap clever Barrichello, who knows how to play the percentages, for "Win or die" Lewis, who's liable to bin the car at least half as often as he gets to be first.

i was getting at this bit.

And I stand by it. Lewis drives on the ragged edge with a win or bust mentality. A team like Brawn does not need a driver like that, they need a cool-headed river who knows when to hold station and take the points.

So what your saying is that they dont need a world champion like Lewis.
Doesnt quite compute that

...

Are you illiterate? Because I'm pretty sure I itemised the reasons they do not need him. Go back and read it.

Being a World Champion does not make you a driver any given team needs. Jacques Villeneuve is a case in point. Brawn already have a driver who is winning easily, so there is no point in hiring Lewis.

You guys cant be serious.

Are you trying to tell me if you were the owner of a team and were spending millions of your own money you wouldnt seriously want the CURRENT world champion on your team.
Dont make me laugh

A world championship means nothing. There are greater drivers who have never won one, and rubbish drivers that have won plenty.

So if you were the owner of a football team you would rather they played well and got humped every week

[scotty]

Are you trying to tell me if you were the owner of a team and were spending millions of your own money you wouldnt seriously want the CURRENT world champion on your team.
Dont make me laugh

By that logic, Alonso should still be at McLaren with Hamilton out on his ear after 2007...

[Denthúl]

OK don't get me wrong here, but your underating Lewis alot hes better overall than rubens and if you look at his past two seasons especialy 07 he was quick consistant and had a great podium hit rate.

Now that said i think they should keep Rubens because that car is gonna be difficult to setup and LH won't be able to use Jenson's setup because the driving styles are diffrent.

And i'm not sure hes gonna be as good as Rubens as setting up the car.

And i 100% think he should stay with Mclaren even if they are banned because it will shut up all the people who doubt his loyalty.

But wouldn't it be great to see him and Jenson race...

I didn't question Lewis's ability, I said he was not a better choice than Rubens.

The last thing Brawn needs is to swap clever Barrichello, who knows how to play the percentages, for "Win or die" Lewis, who's liable to bin the car at least half as often as he gets to be first.

i was getting at this bit.

And I stand by it. Lewis drives on the ragged edge with a win or bust mentality. A team like Brawn does not need a driver like that, they need a cool-headed river who knows when to hold station and take the points.

So what your saying is that they dont need a world champion like Lewis.
Doesnt quite compute that

...

Are you illiterate? Because I'm pretty sure I itemised the reasons they do not need him. Go back and read it.

Being a World Champion does not make you a driver any given team needs. Jacques Villeneuve is a case in point. Brawn already have a driver who is winning easily, so there is no point in hiring Lewis.

You guys cant be serious.

Are you trying to tell me if you were the owner of a team and were spending millions of your own money you wouldnt seriously want the CURRENT world champion on your team.
Dont make me laugh

A world championship means nothing. There are greater drivers who have never won one, and rubbish drivers that have won plenty.

So if you were the owner of a football team you would rather they played well and got humped every week

I did not say that. You're clearly not even bothering to read anything.

Are you trying to tell me if you were the owner of a team and were spending millions of your own money you wouldnt seriously want the CURRENT world champion on your team.
Dont make me laugh

By that logic, Alonso should still be at McLaren with Hamilton out on his ear after 2007...

[Tony_sa]

OK don't get me wrong here, but your underating Lewis alot hes better overall than rubens and if you look at his past two seasons especialy 07 he was quick consistant and had a great podium hit rate.

Now that said i think they should keep Rubens because that car is gonna be difficult to setup and LH won't be able to use Jenson's setup because the driving styles are diffrent.

And i'm not sure hes gonna be as good as Rubens as setting up the car.

And i 100% think he should stay with Mclaren even if they are banned because it will shut up all the people who doubt his loyalty.

But wouldn't it be great to see him and Jenson race...

I didn't question Lewis's ability, I said he was not a better choice than Rubens.

The last thing Brawn needs is to swap clever Barrichello, who knows how to play the percentages, for "Win or die" Lewis, who's liable to bin the car at least half as often as he gets to be first.

i was getting at this bit.

And I stand by it. Lewis drives on the ragged edge with a win or bust mentality. A team like Brawn does not need a driver like that, they need a cool-headed river who knows when to hold station and take the points.

So what your saying is that they dont need a world champion like Lewis.
Doesnt quite compute that

...

Are you illiterate? Because I'm pretty sure I itemised the reasons they do not need him. Go back and read it.

Being a World Champion does not make you a driver any given team needs. Jacques Villeneuve is a case in point. Brawn already have a driver who is winning easily, so there is no point in hiring Lewis.

You guys cant be serious.

Are you trying to tell me if you were the owner of a team and were spending millions of your own money you wouldnt seriously want the CURRENT world champion on your team.
Dont make me laugh

Current world champion ,,, My foot.! once again no clear cut champion but one nonetheless. , I am so glad i am not going to fight this out with the "it" at hand and please excuse me for my annotation but i feel i have the right to do that. hamilton is not seen or recognised as the world F1 champion by more than half of the world and it appears they put that blame at the feet of mclaren. what is the reason for this I might ask. I , for one , dont want the answer coz I dont care. When you take a concious decision to lie ,cheat and steal you give away your right to be judged fairly.- once again this topic bores me. ... so good night guys and dolls. its sleepy time..cheers

[Lordblackstuff]

OK don't get me wrong here, but your underating Lewis alot hes better overall than rubens and if you look at his past two seasons especialy 07 he was quick consistant and had a great podium hit rate.

Now that said i think they should keep Rubens because that car is gonna be difficult to setup and LH won't be able to use Jenson's setup because the driving styles are diffrent.

And i'm not sure hes gonna be as good as Rubens as setting up the car.

And i 100% think he should stay with Mclaren even if they are banned because it will shut up all the people who doubt his loyalty.

But wouldn't it be great to see him and Jenson race...

I didn't question Lewis's ability, I said he was not a better choice than Rubens.

The last thing Brawn needs is to swap clever Barrichello, who knows how to play the percentages, for "Win or die" Lewis, who's liable to bin the car at least half as often as he gets to be first.

i was getting at this bit.

And I stand by it. Lewis drives on the ragged edge with a win or bust mentality. A team like Brawn does not need a driver like that, they need a cool-headed river who knows when to hold station and take the points.

So what your saying is that they dont need a world champion like Lewis.
Doesnt quite compute that

...

Are you illiterate? Because I'm pretty sure I itemised the reasons they do not need him. Go back and read it.

Being a World Champion does not make you a driver any given team needs. Jacques Villeneuve is a case in point. Brawn already have a driver who is winning easily, so there is no point in hiring Lewis.

You guys cant be serious.

Are you trying to tell me if you were the owner of a team and were spending millions of your own money you wouldnt seriously want the CURRENT world champion on your team.
Dont make me laugh

Current world champion ,,, My foot.! once again no clear cut champion but one nonetheless. , I am so glad i am not going to fight this out with the "it" at hand and please excuse me for my annotation but i feel i have the right to do that. hamilton is not seen or recognised as the world F1 champion by more than half of the world and it appears they put that blame at the feet of mclaren. what is the reason for this I might ask. I , for one , dont want the answer coz I dont care. When you take a concious decision to lie ,cheat and steal you give away your right to be judged fairly.- once again this topic bores me. ... so good night guys and dolls. its sleepy time..cheers

Night Tony...off to bed then.

Lewis was robbed of the championship before and if its left up to some people he will be again

[Thelma_j]

In the short time I've been a member of this forum I've detected a fair bit of anti-L.H. feeling. What's the problem? The guy is talented. If you don't like him then fine. But why the bitching?

And hopefully it's history but why the references to race and sexual persuasion? Is F1 the sole remit of white heterosexual males?

Well actually I know that answer coz L.H. ain't white.

[Lordblackstuff]

In the short time I've been a member of this forum I've detected a fair bit of anti-L.H. feeling. What's the problem? The guy is talented. If you don't like him then fine. But why the bitching?

And hopefully it's history but why the references to race and sexual persuasion? Is F1 the sole remit of white heterosexual males?

Well said Thelma.
Thank god there are some level headed people on the board.

Some of the refernces made by a few and I mean a few here about sexual persuasion and refernces to Mogabe is insulting and there should be no place for such comments on this board.

I feel the same as you that there exists an ingrained hatred of Lewis on this forum for whatever reason.

Give the guy a break and support a proud Brit

[Denthúl]

In the short time I've been a member of this forum I've detected a fair bit of anti-L.H. feeling. What's the problem? The guy is talented. If you don't like him then fine. But why the bitching?

And hopefully it's history but why the references to race and sexual persuasion? Is F1 the sole remit of white heterosexual males?

Well said Thelma.
Thank god there are some level headed people on the board.

Some of the refernces made by a few and I mean a few here about sexual persuasion and refernces to Mogabe is insulting and there should be no place for such comments on this board.

I feel the same as you that there exists an ingrained hatred of Lewis on this forum for whatever reason.

Give the guy a break and support a proud Brit

I don't see why I should support someone because he or she is from the same country as me. I'd rather support people I liked (which is exactly what I do anyway).

[texasmr2]

OK we will try this one last time, kinda like baseball where the players get two strikes and on the third one your out. I doubt Lewis will be leaving McLaren anytime soon as I would like to think he is more loyal to them than to just dump them over this hurdle. McLaren have and always will overcome such hurdles regardless of what changes they must make. RD has put to much time into the team and LH for such a change to happen anytime soon.

In the short time I've been a member of this forum I've detected a fair bit of anti-L.H. feeling. What's the problem? The guy is talented. If you don't like him then fine. But why the bitching?

Actually the bitching seems to be more geared towards what Lewis does off the track or what is read in the press which is rediculous. My only issue with Lewis is that he is not driving a red car .

And hopefully it's history but why the references to race and sexual persuasion? Is F1 the sole remit of white heterosexual males?

Yes hopefully it is history because it will not be tolerated ANYMORE, get my drift, I hope so and this is not directed at you Thelma_J.