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#106868
It would appear that the FIA suspect this runs deeper in to McLaren than the team were willing to let on (much like some of us thought).

FIA requests BBC's Whitmarsh tapes

By Jonathan Noble Monday, April 13th 2009, 19:33 GMT

Martin WhitmarshThe FIA has written to the BBC to ask for copies of interviews McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh conducted with the broadcaster in the immediate aftermath of the Australian Grand Prix.

As motor racing's governing body continues its investigation into the lying controversy surrounding the McLaren team, the BBC has been asked to supply comments made by Whitmarsh in Melbourne that could throw a fresh light on how much he knew about what happened behind the safety car in the closing stages of the race.

Although Whitmarsh claimed at the Malaysian Grand Prix that he knew nothing about Lewis Hamilton and McLaren's former sporting director Dave Ryan denying to stewards that there had been a radio order to let Jarno Trulli overtake, his comments in the aftermath of the race suggest he shared the line they told stewards that the Toyota driver had forced his way by.

In a live interview with BBC Radio 5 shortly after the Melbourne race, Whitmarsh said: "Under the last safety car, Trulli's Toyota fell off the circuit and was on the grass. Lewis passed him as he could legitimately do so, and thereafter Trulli repassed under the safety car and the early indications from the stewards were that they felt that was incorrect. They are doing the full investigation as we speak and we will shortly learn if it is a third or a fourth place."

In another interview that Whitmarsh is alleged to have conducted with BBC pitlane reporter Ted Kravitz, it is suggested he said: "Trulli then retook the place under the safety car, which ordinarily you wouldn't do. I know that the FIA are looking at it at the moment."

The FIA has been alerted to the presence of these interviews and wants the BBC to supply any evidence that it believes will be helpful to its investigation.

McLaren is to face a hearing of the FIA's World Motor Sport Council later this month to answer disrepute charges that it lied to stewards - and forced Hamilton to supply an 'untrue statement' to support its case.


I'm really not surprised by this I think how Whitmarsh responded in those early interviews where he never mentioned the team order to let Trulli pass unlike Lewis who told the media the full story until the Stewards meeting but it still does not get around the fact that the official press releases from Mercedes and McLaren mentioned the team order so all in all I think it is a complete mess. On thinking about it I feel like that Whitmarsh might of told Ryan to deliberately leave out that piece of information but then Ryan and Lewis might of taken it one step further and completely denied it when questioned therefore lying.
#106872
It would appear that the FIA suspect this runs deeper in to McLaren than the team were willing to let on (much like some of us thought).

FIA requests BBC's Whitmarsh tapes

By Jonathan Noble Monday, April 13th 2009, 19:33 GMT

Martin WhitmarshThe FIA has written to the BBC to ask for copies of interviews McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh conducted with the broadcaster in the immediate aftermath of the Australian Grand Prix.

As motor racing's governing body continues its investigation into the lying controversy surrounding the McLaren team, the BBC has been asked to supply comments made by Whitmarsh in Melbourne that could throw a fresh light on how much he knew about what happened behind the safety car in the closing stages of the race.

Although Whitmarsh claimed at the Malaysian Grand Prix that he knew nothing about Lewis Hamilton and McLaren's former sporting director Dave Ryan denying to stewards that there had been a radio order to let Jarno Trulli overtake, his comments in the aftermath of the race suggest he shared the line they told stewards that the Toyota driver had forced his way by.

In a live interview with BBC Radio 5 shortly after the Melbourne race, Whitmarsh said: "Under the last safety car, Trulli's Toyota fell off the circuit and was on the grass. Lewis passed him as he could legitimately do so, and thereafter Trulli repassed under the safety car and the early indications from the stewards were that they felt that was incorrect. They are doing the full investigation as we speak and we will shortly learn if it is a third or a fourth place."

In another interview that Whitmarsh is alleged to have conducted with BBC pitlane reporter Ted Kravitz, it is suggested he said: "Trulli then retook the place under the safety car, which ordinarily you wouldn't do. I know that the FIA are looking at it at the moment."

The FIA has been alerted to the presence of these interviews and wants the BBC to supply any evidence that it believes will be helpful to its investigation.

McLaren is to face a hearing of the FIA's World Motor Sport Council later this month to answer disrepute charges that it lied to stewards - and forced Hamilton to supply an 'untrue statement' to support its case.


I'm really not surprised by this I think how Whitmarsh responded in those early interviews where he never mentioned the team order to let Trulli pass unlike Lewis who told the media the full story until the Stewards meeting but it still does not get around the fact that the official press releases from Mercedes and McLaren mentioned the team order so all in all I think it is a complete mess. On thinking about it I feel like that Whitmarsh might of told Ryan to deliberately leave out that piece of information but then Ryan and Lewis might of taken it one step further and completely denied it when questioned therefore lying.


Its one big uneccesary screw up!! What a shame cos if McLaren get there car sorted by Spain they were in with a fighting chance.
#106883
Spain will be a little late cause they have to catch up on 4 races, Brawn have it but Toyota and Williams still have a resonable chance.

Since its going great for Toyota say if they do finish 2nd in the WCC will they still be F1 next season even without a win? :confused:
#106885
Spain will be a little late cause they have to catch up on 4 races, Brawn have it but Toyota and Williams still have a resonable chance.

Since its going great for Toyota say if they do finish 2nd in the WCC will they still be F1 next season even without a win? :confused:


Yeah but without the screw up Lewis would have 7 points, not impossible if the car came good.
#106886
Spain will be a little late cause they have to catch up on 4 races, Brawn have it but Toyota and Williams still have a resonable chance.

Since its going great for Toyota say if they do finish 2nd in the WCC will they still be F1 next season even without a win? :confused:


Possibly. Regular podiums would be a huge step-up anyway. But I can't see them not-getting a win this year. Provided their resources are up to scratch, they theoretically have the money to out-develop Brawn and Williams.
#106889
Spain will be a little late cause they have to catch up on 4 races, Brawn have it but Toyota and Williams still have a resonable chance.

Since its going great for Toyota say if they do finish 2nd in the WCC will they still be F1 next season even without a win? :confused:

I reckon Toyota and Williams are in good enough positions to claim at least one victory this year. I reckon Nico will win at Monaco and if Toyota do manage a win it will come courtesy of Glock. He's good with in-race tactics.

A lot depends on the Brawn's reliability as well.
#106891
Spain will be a little late cause they have to catch up on 4 races, Brawn have it but Toyota and Williams still have a resonable chance.

Since its going great for Toyota say if they do finish 2nd in the WCC will they still be F1 next season even without a win? :confused:

I reckon Toyota and Williams are in good enough positions to claim at least one victory this year. I reckon Nico will win at Monaco and if Toyota do manage a win it will come courtesy of Glock. He's good with in-race tactics.

A lot depends on the Brawn's reliability as well.


Judging from Rubens' getaway during his pit stop in Malaysia, he could well have to replace his gearbox. Again. :(
#106893
Spain will be a little late cause they have to catch up on 4 races, Brawn have it but Toyota and Williams still have a resonable chance.

Since its going great for Toyota say if they do finish 2nd in the WCC will they still be F1 next season even without a win? :confused:


Yeah but without the screw up Lewis would have 7 points, not impossible if the car came good.


Tech 6, 4th=5 points and his Point at Malaysia, but with limited testing can they improve, suppose so but not .500sec worth.....
#106898
Spain will be a little late cause they have to catch up on 4 races, Brawn have it but Toyota and Williams still have a resonable chance.

Since its going great for Toyota say if they do finish 2nd in the WCC will they still be F1 next season even without a win? :confused:

I reckon Toyota and Williams are in good enough positions to claim at least one victory this year. I reckon Nico will win at Monaco and if Toyota do manage a win it will come courtesy of Glock. He's good with in-race tactics.

A lot depends on the Brawn's reliability as well.


Monaco eh? Not Belgium? :wink:

Glock was second at Hungary so ill go with Hungary again...just putting it out there! :hehe:
#106907
Spain will be a little late cause they have to catch up on 4 races, Brawn have it but Toyota and Williams still have a resonable chance.

Since its going great for Toyota say if they do finish 2nd in the WCC will they still be F1 next season even without a win? :confused:

I reckon Toyota and Williams are in good enough positions to claim at least one victory this year. I reckon Nico will win at Monaco and if Toyota do manage a win it will come courtesy of Glock. He's good with in-race tactics.

A lot depends on the Brawn's reliability as well.


Monaco eh? Not Belgium? :wink:

Glock was second at Hungary so ill go with Hungary again...just putting it out there! :hehe:

I think Trulli could snag Monaco. Button too.
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