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[Bladesman]

I have to hand it to McLaren the updates perhaps a little late have certainly improved the car.

Plus a world record quick pit stop gets me thinking that McLaren have woken up finally.

Unlucky for Lewis as he should of been hustling a place on the podium as well.

[Injen]

Turning off when your team aren't doing well? Where's your sense of honour man.

Turning off the hope of a WDC basically. I'd still be watching races when I'm free.

Nah mate,it ain't over yet,couple of bad races for Alonso and Vettel and a few good races without the freaking rain and we are right back in their pal.

[stonemonkey]

Just a blip is it?

And the blip will be over at the next race because Sam and Martin have insisted that the new upgrades will turn McLaren into a top 2 team again?

Problem is, they have said that before

A team with the history, resources and aspirations of Mclaren, a company deep into the mother of all investments to produce the 'British Ferrari' road division, a company that talks about its attention to detail and the importance of improving by split seconds has no excuse for getting beaten by the mid field teams. They dont have the resources to work out the tyres? same for everyone else

Why are at least 4 teams now better than McLaren? Why has it got to this stage race by race over the season?

Should McLaren just accept that they cannot be as good as the big boys or do they change something?

The clue is having a lame duck driver as the lead when it comes to focus and development, this is a function of having another lame duck as team boss

I didn't say it was just a blip. I accept they have some problems which they aren't going to overcome overnight but I was saying that the performance at Silverstone wasn't a true representation of the state of things and due to circumstances they looked in a far worse state than they really were. They had a pretty good showing in Hockenheim and the leap of the apparent performance isn't something that can be done in that time.

[Jabberwocky]

If nothing else the Tooned cartoons make me laugh

Yes, the McLaren cartoons on Sky are quite quirky

Jenson, Are you tweeting?

[LewEngBridewell]

I have to hand it to McLaren the updates perhaps a little late have certainly improved the car.

Plus a world record quick pit stop gets me thinking that McLaren have woken up finally.

Unlucky for Lewis as he should of been hustling a place on the podium as well.

Possibly a win, had quali not been so disastrous when it mattered most.

If nothing else the Tooned cartoons make me laugh

Yes, the McLaren cartoons on Sky are quite quirky

Jenson, Are you tweeting?

[What's Burning?]

keep an eye out, around 2:36 Lewis gets his hair did.
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[The Second Coming]

keep an eye out, around 2:36 Lewis gets his hair did.
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Brilliant!

I'm just saying...

[CookinFlat6]

And now that Jenson has the fastest car and no excuses he is able to qualify ahead of other slower cars. However in the race he is just not fast enough to be able to beat other cars close in pace. He is an average driver in a fast car and I wonder if McLaren will come to the realisation that the best way forward is to concentrate on the faster driver and have the slower one back him up by acting as a strategic guinea pig like they did today inadvertently

[What's Burning?]

The question is what's Lewis doing that Jenson isn't? I'm a Jenson fan because I want him at his best, you can't win a WCC with only one driver scoring points. Today we'll simply chalk up to a funky strategy that didn't make it, but you have to ask what's he doing that's preventing him from getting the tires working that Lewis is easily able to do?

[LRW]

The question is what's Lewis doing that Jenson isn't? I'm a Jenson fan because I want him at his best, you can't win a WCC with only one driver scoring points. Today we'll simply chalk up to a funky strategy that didn't make it, but you have to ask what's he doing that's preventing him from getting the tires working that Lewis is easily able to do?

Surely it's just driving styles? It's all been said before but Button has been claimed to be a much smoother driver - and these tyres are obviously like women. Treat them all kind and nice from the start and they don't stick around for long. But treat them a little rough, followed up by some TLC, and they are putty in your hands.......?

[LewEngBridewell]

There was more to Jenson's lowly finishing position than just himself. Being called in when he was raises questions, because he lost considerable time in traffic today.

[darwin dali]

The question is what's Lewis doing that Jenson isn't? I'm a Jenson fan because I want him at his best, you can't win a WCC with only one driver scoring points. Today we'll simply chalk up to a funky strategy that didn't make it, but you have to ask what's he doing that's preventing him from getting the tires working that Lewis is easily able to do?

Surely it's just driving styles? It's all been said before but Button has been claimed to be a much smoother driver - and these tyres are obviously like women. Treat them all kind and nice from the start and they don't stick around for long. But treat them a little rough, followed up by some TLC, and they are putty in your hands.......?

Dunno, LRW, dunno...

[The Second Coming]

Surely it's just driving styles? It's all been said before but Button has been claimed to be a much smoother driver.

Jenson was branded with "smooth" style primarily when he was with Brawn. Many forget that he had an advantage...the double diffuser. It made driving the car so much easier than all of the other cars that year...all of which had far less rear down force. You can see the difference since he's been with McLaren...when the car is very good, smooth gets him nowhere. When the car is so-so, he has no grip. When the car is bad, he has no grip. Lets venture over to the other side of the garage, shall we? When the car is good, Lewis is on pole and/or wins. When the car is so-so, Lewis is either on pole and/or wins or is on the podium. When the car is bad, Lewis still ends up being very competitive, fighting at the front.

As far as the Hungarian GP, from my armchair, I suspect McLaren called him in early because of his fading early pace and his history of losing tire life very early in races. They likely believed they could do three short stints as long as he can be blindingly quick and make it work. We know he isn't blinding quick so that was fraught from the very start. Part of his issue this year is McLaren rate him higher than he really is and the results show he can't live up to their assessment of him. They put him on these strategies that he can't cope with and then he looks bad. Tough place to be.

I'm just saying...

[racechick]

Gotta agree with that Team McLarenF1.
But I did sense a possible dawning on McLaren last race as to this prolongued misjudgementof theirs. Maybe.....

[racechick]

According to autosport, McLaren put Lewis' win down to qualifying and their fast pitstops.

McLaren believes that the key to its success in the Hungarian Grand Prix was its qualifying position and the swift pitstops that helped Lewis Hamilton hold track position for the whole race.

Qualifying yes. Pitstops?? Wasn't one of them slow?(4point something, one to two seconds slower than it need be , and about the gap Lewis had to Grosjean?) and the only reason Lewis stayed ahead of Lotus was that Lotus screwed up similarly?

Here's what Sam Michael has to say...
"Lotus were definitely on us for the whole race," Michael told AUTOSPORT. "I think they really have a good race car and we basically only beat them because of qualifying and the fact that we beat them in the pits."

Well Sam, you were lucky in the pits! Nothing to do with Lewis preserving his tyres and managing the gap then?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101654

Michael did confess at the end that Lewis 'drove well to keep Kimi off him'
I'll say he did!!