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[Denthúl]

Was not expecting that move, even from Alonso.

[LRW]

Agree that was a bit poor by the BBC. The forum went pairshaped and never returned.
Maybe that's the BBC trying to say that F1 will be better on Sky. A sad end to very good full season coverage over the past three years.

because...

That was a rather dramatic way to say goodbye wasn't it!! Power cut in the whole TV compound took out every broadcaster...

but you still got over an hour of fun(EJ on fire!). I'd like to say thanks so much for watching 2011 with the BBC. Keep doing do in 2012.

The Forum in full on BBC iPlayer soon...with an extra goodbye added onto the end. Thanks for your company/banter/questions - more in 2012..?

[LewEngBridewell]

Jake makes it sound as if he's staying on. Which would be good.

[LRW]

Jake makes it sound as if he's staying on. Which would be good.

He is, along with DC and Lee Mckenzie....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sporteditors/2011/11/bbc_formula_1_an_update.html

[LewEngBridewell]

Jake makes it sound as if he's staying on. Which would be good.

He is, along with DC and Lee Mckenzie....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sporteditors/2011/11/bbc_formula_1_an_update.html

Thanks for the link. Good to hear that Jake and DC are being retained. I will miss Eddie Jordan if he leaves, even if I didn't always agree with what he said.

Some of those comments are just pathetic on that article though. I used to be a regular contributor to the BBC article comments, but I left a while ago. Far too many one-sided, extreme, derogative posters there.

[myownalias]

It was an OK race, far from the best I have seen in Brazil but I'm happy with the result, two of my favourite drivers on the podium, Webber and Button, shame that the gearbox issue ruined Hamilton's race, I would have liked to have seen what he had in the battle with JB. Decent performances from Sutil and Di Resta, my third favourite driver, Kobayashi scored the points Sauber needed to maintain their seventh position in the constructors championship. I guess that I didn't enjoy this race because it was a complete anti-climax with everything decided races ago.

Another stewardship balls-up; why was Senna punished for a clear racing incident? I tweeted #BBCF1 when DC mentioned it should go down as a racing incident saying "There is no such thing as a racing incident in F1 anymore...", I really hope that the "causing an avoidable accident" rule is relaxed or even better abolished next season!

[andrew]

Jake makes it sound as if he's staying on. Which would be good.

He is, along with DC and Lee Mckenzie....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sporteditors/2011/11/bbc_formula_1_an_update.html

Thanks for the link. Good to hear that Jake and DC are being retained. I will miss Eddie Jordan if he leaves, even if I didn't always agree with what he said.

Some of those comments are just pathetic on that article though. I used to be a regular contributor to the BBC article comments, but I left a while ago. Far too many one-sided, extreme, derogative posters there.

Coulthard is alright, Lee Mckenzie is a bit of alright and adds something worth while to the coverage, but Jake Humphrey?! God no!

[LewEngBridewell]

Another stewardship balls-up; why was Senna punished for a clear racing incident? I tweeted #BBCF1 when DC mentioned it should go down as a racing incident saying "There is no such thing as a racing incident in F1 anymore...", I really hope that the "causing an avoidable accident" rule is relaxed or even better abolished next season!

Good call

[darwin dali]

Reuters:

Formula One champions Red Bull scoffed at suggestions they manipulated the Brazilian Grand Prix to hand Mark Webber a first victory of the season.

Team boss Christian Horner told reporters he was astonished that double world champion Sebastian Vettel finished the season-ending race, let alone in second place, after Red Bull advised him of a gearbox problem.

The fact Vettel set a number of fastest laps after allowing Webber to go past 30 laps into the 71-lap race aroused suspicions in the media room but Horner said there had been no deception.

"Of course there will always be people that have theories but categorically there was an issue," he said.

"How on earth that gearbox got to the end of the race is beyond me. Thankfully it did and Mark ended up a deserving winner.

"If anybody thinks that was concocted in any way I can absolutely hand on heart guarantee you, based on the blood pressure that was on the pit wall ... it was a genuine issue," added Horner.

Webber had started second on the grid, alongside Vettel who had taken his record 15th pole of the season and was chasing a 12th win of the year.

The Australian's last victory was in Hungary in August 2010 and Red Bull were eager for him to end the year as overall runner-up but his chances looked dim until the gearbox problem surfaced.

Vettel said he made clear to the team on the radio he could not keep the lead with the problem, or even be sure of finishing, and was willing to let Webber through to ensure the team still won the race.

The 24-year-old said he felt like the late Brazilian great Ayrton Senna, who famously won at Interlagos in 1991 with a McLaren whose gearbox failed progressively so that he ended up negotiating tight corners in sixth gear.

At the end of that race Senna had to be lifted from the car suffering from exhaustion and Vettel recognized the comparison was somewhat exaggerated.

"Obviously it was totally different for him, he was Brazilian and he still managed to win the race," he said.

"I was forced to push in areas where I was allowed to, in the corners, but as soon as I went on the straight I obviously had to shift earlier."

Horner said that by the finish the gearbox was operating right on the limit.

"There must be zero oil left in that gearbox because it literally went off the scale in those last five laps," he said. "We were glued to the data to see if it was going to make it to the end."

[andrew]

The fact that Vettel kept being told to slow down and to short shift points to there being a problem otherwise there is no reason to not let the drivers race - both titles are in the bag so if they take each other out then it is realy no biggie. Did anyone notice that Vettels rear light was on during the race? The theory is that he was switched to a wet set-up, as far as the gear box is concerned, which would give slower and smoother gear changes and put less strain on the gear box. Seems reasonable to me.

I think this will be another race steeped in F1 conspiracy theory for days to come.

[scotty]

People normally only come up with this drivel when it's going to the offseason and there's nothing else to really say anyway.

[f1ea]

Nice race.
I really liked the 1st lap. Also, there were some nice battles.......

Had the cars been closer it would have been a terrific season. Vettel, Button and Alonso were a step above everyone else; but all around the racing was very good.

[fanboy]

I quite enjoyed the race and cannot credit the conspiracy theory. Sutil deserves a strong mention for beating Rosberg and the Alonso move around the horse shoe was a great pass. Ferrari will be glad to see the end of that car though, I can't understand why they've been so slow on whichever tyre is the prime during races. They seemed all season to have problems heating the tyres with no resultant increase in durability.

Thanks to the forum for some good points on the season and start embroidering our bitching caps for next year.

[Hammer278]

No more F1 races till...March?

Hello Tennis!!!

[myownalias]

Although I don't think that it was orchestrated by Red Bull; there is plenty of ammunition for the conspiracy theorists, the way Vettel slowed drastically to let Webber pass, the fact that Vettel had a brand new gearbox which is less likely to fail compared to one that has done four races and setting fastest laps with a dodgy gearbox is the biggest conspiracy theorist wet dream!