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#303242
Don't get me wrong, Jenson is a good, dependable pair of hands in an F1 car (if it's perfect) but he's not in the same league as Lewis/Alonso/Vettel. Jenson made the mistake of reading a lot into Lewis' performance last year and thinking he is now on level terms this year. The picture is fairly clear, isn't it? The car is good this year yet he can't figure it out. All the follies of last year seem to be well behind Lewis and now Jenson's real problems begin. Lets see just how this affects the team and what if any adjustments are made.
#303243
Problem is, many were too willing to think he was actually comparable to someone of Lewis' caliber. That was annoying.

The more I see his performance, the more pathetic he seems. I mean, it's alright to have a crappy setup not working for you...but in the Spanish GP the way he let Vettel past like he was a backmarker was just a face palm moment. Even the commentator was like "absolutely no defense from Jenson"...it was at the same corner Kobayashi took him if I'm not mistaken. Don't talk to me about having crap tyres, compare how much Vettel had to work to get past Hamilton, and you'll see why I'm a fan of a race driver instead of...a driver.
#303244
Don't get me wrong, Jenson is a good, dependable pair of hands in an F1 car (if it's perfect) but he's not in the same league as Lewis/Alonso/Vettel. Jenson made the mistake of reading a lot into Lewis' performance last year and thinking he is now on level terms this year. The picture is fairly clear, isn't it? The car is good this year yet he can't figure it out. All the follies of last year seem to be well behind Lewis and now Jenson's real problems begin. Lets see just how this affects the team and what if any adjustments are made.


I agree Jenson is a safe driver who is capable, but he lacks the cutting edge of the likes of Lewis/Alsono/Vettel and the likes that makes the difference between being good and being great.
#303256
Well what a difference there is in Lewis this year.This interview after yesterdays race for example
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18057007

It would of been so easy to be a bit down,but no praises the team and only looked at positives.Even had time for a dig at his teammate.That's more like the old Lewis ,long may it continue :thumbup:

I just have a feeling he will win the title again this year,if McLaren can sort themselves out.

Anyway good to have the real Lewis back,fingers crossed for Monaco.
#303260
Whitmarsh explains McLaren's qualifying blunder


McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh has admitted he made the call to keep Lewis Hamilton out on track during qualifying at the Spanish Grand Prix despite suspecting the car might run too low on fuel.

Hamilton was excluded from the qualifying results after the stewards discovered that he had been insufficiently fuelled to make it back to the pits under his own power and provide the mandatory one-litre fuel sample. He started from the back of the grid as a result and, despite a strong drive through the field, only picked up four points for finishing eighth.

McLaren first suspected he was short fuelled on his out lap from the pits and had the opportunity to avoid a penalty by calling him back into the pits, but Whitmarsh said he had to make a tough call to keep him out on track.

"I put my hand up," he said on Sunday. "People assume that you have an empty vessel that is a fuel tank and you just throw the fuel in, but it's much more complex than that. You look into the tank and you can't see anything other than baffles, pumps, collectors and all sorts of complexity because you're trying to get the last few grams of fuel being thrown around in a relatively empty vessel at four or five Gs. So it isn't straight forward, but the mistake was made.

"We didn't know exactly what had happened, frankly. The data told us we had less fuel in there than we would have liked and we didn't know whether the data was right or wrong. You then have to take a view and I took the view that I wanted to give Lewis the opportunity to be on pole. I believed he could be on pole and I think that was good for him. We then continued to assess it and took the decision that we knew we had to provide one litre of fuel, that's a definitive regulation and we knew we would be sampled, so we decided that we'd make sure we complied and we got 1.3 litres out of the car and we took that decision.

"I don't think we, rightly or wrongly, envisaged the severity of the penalty that resulted and also Formula One is a great one for hindsight and there's a lot of analysis from experts to inform you where you got it wrong. But I put my hand up, and as team principal as that was unfolding - bearing in mind you're in the adrenaline fused seconds of it, you're trying to understand what's happening and you've got 10 or 20 people trying to deal with it - I said let's go for it and once we get over the line let's start to monitor.

"It's not easy [to monitor], you can't just put a dipstick in and find out how much fuel's there, it's a very complex system, and we could have stopped the car and taken three or four litres out of it and I would have been very embarrassed. I was still pretty embarrassed and that's the challenge and you've got to take those decisions."

Whitmarsh said he was hugely impressed with the way Hamilton dealt with the team's error and, while he was surprised by the stewards' penalty, he and the team fully accepted the verdict.

"I wanted to give Lewis the opportunity to be on pole, I think he was capable of doing that and of course he was. I did not expect what happened in the way of the penalty, given that the black and white regulation is being able to give the sample and we could give the sample. But I'm not commenting on what happened with the stewards because it's a fruitless task. There's no point in me making observations on it. They made a decision and we got on and raced with it.

"I think Lewis was extraordinary on Saturday night, I was talking to him on a number of occasions, and I'm so proud of the level of maturity he brought to bear on dealing with the frustration and the support that he showed for the team and myself. I'm very grateful for that.

"But I sensed then that he would have the control, the balance and the maturity to deal with what was a very difficult race in the right way. A two-stop [strategy] was always going to be a challenge and he did it fantastically and he made the best out of it, got some points and that's what this championship is about, it's just collecting those valuable points. A great disciplined drive from him."
#303270
Well what a difference there is in Lewis this year.This interview after yesterdays race for example
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18057007

It would of been so easy to be a bit down,but no praises the team and only looked at positives.Even had time for a dig at his teammate.That's more like the old Lewis ,long may it continue :thumbup:

I just have a feeling he will win the title again this year,if McLaren can sort themselves out.

Anyway good to have the real Lewis back,fingers crossed for Monaco.


Welcome back the real Lewis :D I think his dig wasnt so much at jenson, as the people who say Jenson can look after his tyres and Lewis cant.
Nice one Lewis :thumbup: Did it in style :clap:
#303271
Whitmarsh explains McLaren's qualifying blunder


McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh has admitted he made the call to keep Lewis Hamilton out on track during qualifying at the Spanish Grand Prix despite suspecting the car might run too low on fuel.

Hamilton was excluded from the qualifying results after the stewards discovered that he had been insufficiently fuelled to make it back to the pits under his own power and provide the mandatory one-litre fuel sample. He started from the back of the grid as a result and, despite a strong drive through the field, only picked up four points for finishing eighth.

McLaren first suspected he was short fuelled on his out lap from the pits and had the opportunity to avoid a penalty by calling him back into the pits, but Whitmarsh said he had to make a tough call to keep him out on track.

"I put my hand up," he said on Sunday. "People assume that you have an empty vessel that is a fuel tank and you just throw the fuel in, but it's much more complex than that. You look into the tank and you can't see anything other than baffles, pumps, collectors and all sorts of complexity because you're trying to get the last few grams of fuel being thrown around in a relatively empty vessel at four or five Gs. So it isn't straight forward, but the mistake was made.

"We didn't know exactly what had happened, frankly. The data told us we had less fuel in there than we would have liked and we didn't know whether the data was right or wrong. You then have to take a view and I took the view that I wanted to give Lewis the opportunity to be on pole. I believed he could be on pole and I think that was good for him. We then continued to assess it and took the decision that we knew we had to provide one litre of fuel, that's a definitive regulation and we knew we would be sampled, so we decided that we'd make sure we complied and we got 1.3 litres out of the car and we took that decision.

"I don't think we, rightly or wrongly, envisaged the severity of the penalty that resulted and also Formula One is a great one for hindsight and there's a lot of analysis from experts to inform you where you got it wrong. But I put my hand up, and as team principal as that was unfolding - bearing in mind you're in the adrenaline fused seconds of it, you're trying to understand what's happening and you've got 10 or 20 people trying to deal with it - I said let's go for it and once we get over the line let's start to monitor.

"It's not easy [to monitor], you can't just put a dipstick in and find out how much fuel's there, it's a very complex system, and we could have stopped the car and taken three or four litres out of it and I would have been very embarrassed. I was still pretty embarrassed and that's the challenge and you've got to take those decisions."

Whitmarsh said he was hugely impressed with the way Hamilton dealt with the team's error and, while he was surprised by the stewards' penalty, he and the team fully accepted the verdict.

"I wanted to give Lewis the opportunity to be on pole, I think he was capable of doing that and of course he was. I did not expect what happened in the way of the penalty, given that the black and white regulation is being able to give the sample and we could give the sample. But I'm not commenting on what happened with the stewards because it's a fruitless task. There's no point in me making observations on it. They made a decision and we got on and raced with it.

"I think Lewis was extraordinary on Saturday night, I was talking to him on a number of occasions, and I'm so proud of the level of maturity he brought to bear on dealing with the frustration and the support that he showed for the team and myself. I'm very grateful for that.

"But I sensed then that he would have the control, the balance and the maturity to deal with what was a very difficult race in the right way. A two-stop [strategy] was always going to be a challenge and he did it fantastically and he made the best out of it, got some points and that's what this championship is about, it's just collecting those valuable points. A great disciplined drive from him."


This sudden...alteration of the truth kinda of wreaks of being preceded by a phone call that went something like this:
Ring-a-ding-ding. (That's Whitmarsh's actual ring tone.)
Whitmarsh: Hello...
Ron Dennis: Good day, Martin. This is Ron. Emm...lets plan to sit down when we return to MTC on Tuesday, yea?
Whitmarsh: Umm...yea.
Ron: OK, cheers. Speak to you soon.

If you were in Whitmarsh's shoe and got a call from Ron after Fuel Sample-gate, with a very diplomatic but cryptic invitation to sit for a meeting, wouldn't you straighten up and try to clean up the mess in the media? Oh Martin, what have you done?! :(
#303274
...wouldn't you straighten up and try to clean up the mess in the media? Oh Martin, what have you done?! :(


The team principal hardly needs impetus from the owners to spin their version of the story to media.
#303279
He was probably s*** scared about pulling him off that pole run (that was Lewis' for the taking) when he realisd the fuel error, for fear of further conspiracy talk.
NB I dont think theres a conspiracy! :P Just incompetence. :twisted:
#303280
I think if I was in Martins place I would of let Lewis drive back to the pits, and then not be able to supply a sample and then plead ignorance. Stopping him on track flagged up something to the powers that be.
#303281
I think if I was in Martins place I would of let Lewis drive back to the pits, and then not be able to supply a sample and then plead ignorance. Stopping him on track flagged up something to the powers that be.


Get your CV in there!!
#303283
16 years of serving queen and country has taught me, always be the gray man, if you do something that makes you stand out from everyone else people will pay more attention to you.

If you do have to stand out from the crowd make sure of 2 things,
A. you are 100% right.
B. Have a scape goat incase something goes wrong.
#303285
He was probably s*** scared about pulling him off that pole run (that was Lewis' for the taking) when he realisd the fuel error, for fear of further conspiracy talk.
NB I dont think theres a conspiracy! :P Just incompetence. :twisted:

Incompetence and conspiracy are quite often close cousins.
#303287
He was probably s*** scared about pulling him off that pole run (that was Lewis' for the taking) when he realisd the fuel error, for fear of further conspiracy talk.
NB I dont think theres a conspiracy! :P Just incompetence. :twisted:

Incompetence and conspiracy are quite often close cousins.


:thumbup: There we go then.
16 years of serving queen and country has taught me, always be the gray man, if you do something that makes you stand out from everyone else people will pay more attention to you.

If you do have to stand out from the crowd make sure of 2 things,
A. you are 100% right.
B. Have a scape goat incase something goes wrong.


And a good hairdo! Does martin have a good hairdo?
#303288
It depends, do you like Sheldon Cooper's hairdo? If so, then yes, Whitmarsh has a good hairdo.

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