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[What's Burning?]

Why don't you both go over the Hamilton thread and kiss and make up?

[CookinFlat6]

No one turns up here to say the same opinion day in day out

Opinions are expressed whenever there is new information in the public domain. If the new leverages on previously stated views about a certain driver then that's all part of a forums function

See it as a charitable public service - there might be newbies who haven't heard the opinions and maybe need to hear the truth as they wont get it from the Daily Heil or the BBC. If you have heard it many times before just ignore it and leave the newbies to hear it without being press-ganged mentally.

Someone mentioned a forum with rules not being deemed public? Public forums have rules to facilitate debate from as wide as possible views without losing civility. As long as those rules are adhered to... Take the political assemblies like house of commons, polar views repeated ad nauseum, gets heated but rules stop debates breaking into barbarism (in Britain anyway)

What forum would have a rule that says don't vent about public sportsmen? or 'you can vent once a week on sportsman X' yet that's what certain members seem to be advocating here. Sensible rules are dont abuse other members, don't wind them up, don't be rude, don't be a bully - shouting down and suppressing others right to vent

Also mentioned religious fanatics repeating themselves, are you serious? - preachers repeat themselves, missionaries convert, fanatics will have your head off on a public street with n axe

Back to Button, if he came out tomorrow and said 'McLaren must pay me more money or Im off' then an opinion on that would be forthcoming which might reference already stated facts/views/statements about him, not for the benefit of sensitive Button fans, but to exercise the right to vent (dont forget a newbie might wanna hear it)

[What's Burning?]

you overlook the beauty of the forum itself. There's a written history for newbys to catch up on and come to speed. In a way, you can almost form an opinion on certain posters without ever even having had a direct exchange with them.

[1Lemon]

Take the political assemblies like house of commons, polar views repeated ad nauseum, gets heated but rules stop debates breaking into barbarism (in Britain anyway)

You've never watched BBC Parliament have you? It just seems to be a lot of people should HEAR or YEAH or BOO or NO

[CookinFlat6]

you overlook the beauty of the forum itself. There's a written history for newbys to catch up on and come to speed. In a way, you can almost form an opinion on certain posters without ever even having had a direct exchange with them.

Good point WB, thats the beauty of this latest iteration of the public forum - stored history, however this internet version also comes with ignore functionality and simple logic 'I know this username, I might be better served moving on to next post'

There was a great thread sometime ago championed by RC that focused on McLaren Button Whitmarsh and their alienating of Hamilton. But that was closed down because of members turning up to critiscise. maybe time for another one so that sensitive members can try not to visit

[CookinFlat6]

Take the political assemblies like house of commons, polar views repeated ad nauseum, gets heated but rules stop debates breaking into barbarism (in Britain anyway)

You've never watched BBC Parliament have you? It just seems to be a lot of people should HEAR or YEAH or BOO or NO

My point exactly - thats as far from a public forum as is possible, with the strictest rules, repetitive airing of opposing views from the same members are on the right side of barbarism. In the Russian Duma one chap battered another with his shoe IIRC

So whres the problem here?

[1Lemon]

There is a difference between "Sensitive users" and being bombarded with the same repetitive arguments. I think LRW will agree with me theres nothing wrong with expressing opinions, I'm all for that, and creating debates, bring it on. But quite often the exact same arguments creating the same debates taking us all around in a big circle are being brought up.

[CookinFlat6]

I respect and agree with your opinion on irritating repetitive circular arguments, opinions are one thing, repeated arguments another

and it takes two to tango (normally)

[What's Burning?]

it's because the topics of discussion are small. if we ventured more into the anything else threads there would be plenty to argue about and it wouldn't feel so repetitive.

Here it's McLaren, Hamilton, Button, in other countries I'm sure it's about Massa and Alonso or Vettel... wait, is Vettel popular in Germany?

[vaptin]

It's not a public place though, it's privately owned, Stephen can tell us to f*** of at any time.

2, there's discussion and reasoned or otherwise "good" discussion, I think I might end up making a post on my definition of reasoned or "good" discussion. Basically, we can pretty much post what we like sure, but it won't really be much fun like that I think, we have to have some form of standards, or ways of doing things. Obviously people who don't like some things can leave, and to be honest, I think a proportion have already done that, or members can try to change things in the hope it is worth the effort and good in the long run.

Anyway, I don't see how people insulting Hamilton is relevant to this thread, and I repeat my point I think Button has been massively over stated here, I disagree he is the root of McLaren's problems, I don't see how he was responsible for all the pit or strategy mistakes last year for instance, or the areo-dynamic design of the car. discussing Mclaren's issues should have many variables, that's what I used to like about this forum, now it seems so much is narrowly defined, linking in with What What's burning is saying, I well, don't care that much about drivers, I think F1 is a team sport with many factors.

[racechick]

And that's probably the nub of the issue. Different people like different aspects of F1. Some prefer drivers, some teams, some the technical side , some the strategic side. And each have have a different slant on things and place importance in different places. Always gonna be like that

[darwin dali]

And that's probably the nub of the issue. Different people like different aspects of F1. Some prefer drivers, some teams, some the technical side , some the strategic side. And each have have a different slant on things and place importance in different places. Always gonna be like that

Not to forget this aspect of F1:

[andrew]

Is that a for the lassie or Vettel being No. 1 or both?

[CookinFlat6]

It's not a public place though, it's privately owned, Stephen can tell us to f*** of at any time.

Its a privately owned place open to the public. A bit like a public house, and like any good landlord Stephen can tell anyone to **** off at any time. However a pub without drinkers is an empty house on the high street

Theres always a balance between populating a place and maintaining standards of the lowest common denominator. No where grows without influx, fresh blood. And fresh blood brings a clear and present danger of the status quo changing for the older members who have become comfortable

In any online space the most posts come from a small minority core. The more varied they are the more lurkers are compelled to join in, the more static the core the less scope for that. simples

[LRW]

And that's probably the nub of the issue. Different people like different aspects of F1. Some prefer drivers, some teams, some the technical side , some the strategic side. And each have have a different slant on things and place importance in different places. Always gonna be like that

Not to forget this aspect of F1:

Photography....??