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[darwin dali]

I'm not a PC person, I like Macs

[Jensonb]

Clarkey wrote : I think PC rules have gone to far in destroying core rights of Britian, take Christmas and Christianity for example. Local councils are forcing some schools and other public services to refer to it as "Winterval" or something like that.

I know this is shifting away from the topic but is that for real? That would really offend me being Catholic. (I only follow FERRARIISM in the world of F1 of course *LOL*). What annoys me is that Christian countries like Britain (and there are others as well) that will do this compromise for non Christians but if you go to a Muslim country for example, none of these compromise exist or will ever exist. As far as I am concerned if you migrate to another country, although it is fine to still follow your own religion, one must adapt to the ways of the new country, ie accept Christmas as what it is and that is it.

No, no it's not. Yes, Britain is extremly PC. No, we do not ask anyone to refer to Christmas as "Winterval", that is an urban legend. "Winterval" was a name for something else from decades ago which was extremely localised.

@DarwinDali: Me too man, me too.

[bud]

I'm not a PC person, I like Macs

Im BI now

[Denthúl]

No, no it's not. Yes, Britain is extremly PC. No, we do not ask anyone to refer to Christmas as "Winterval", that is an urban legend. "Winterval" was a name for something else from decades ago which was extremely localised.

@DarwinDali: Me too man, me too.

But we have been told to put less emphasis on such festivals...

[darwin dali]

Im BI now

I always knew that honey!

[Martin]

9 pages - wow, AKR must hold the record for creating the longest running thread? Certainly since I have been a member.
Mostly on topic too - obviously very strong feelings on this issue - which is good.

Anyway, now that Bud has become BI (whatever that means!) maybe we should run a thread on that!
Anyone else had a life changing experience on this thread?

[al4x]

i hate over the top PCness , it goes way to far, soon you wont be able to say englishman/irishmn/scotsman jokes, everyone knows its just a bit of fun,

as for me ill laugh at a joke if its funny, regardless, i find the funniest thing the ones you shouldnt laugh at

you can never say a thing and be the most racist person inside, as long as you dont say specfic things like name calling i dont mind jokes about culture for exampe

like those danish cartoonists and those images, and know they fear for their lives?

sometimes i just dont know where this is heading

[Jensonb]

No, no it's not. Yes, Britain is extremly PC. No, we do not ask anyone to refer to Christmas as "Winterval", that is an urban legend. "Winterval" was a name for something else from decades ago which was extremely localised.

@DarwinDali: Me too man, me too.

But we have been told to put less emphasis on such festivals...

I haven't. I assume it varies from place to place though.

[Clarkey3262]

Clarkey wrote : I think PC rules have gone to far in destroying core rights of Britian, take Christmas and Christianity for example. Local councils are forcing some schools and other public services to refer to it as "Winterval" or something like that.

I know this is shifting away from the topic but is that for real? That would really offend me being Catholic. (I only follow FERRARIISM in the world of F1 of course *LOL*). What annoys me is that Christian countries like Britain (and there are others as well) that will do this compromise for non Christians but if you go to a Muslim country for example, none of these compromise exist or will ever exist. As far as I am concerned if you migrate to another country, although it is fine to still follow your own religion, one must adapt to the ways of the new country, ie accept Christmas as what it is and that is it.

No, no it's not. Yes, Britain is extremly PC. No, we do not ask anyone to refer to Christmas as "Winterval", that is an urban legend. "Winterval" was a name for something else from decades ago which was extremely localised.

@DarwinDali: Me too man, me too.

Yes it is. My old man was on the county council and still keeps in touch with all his old contacts from those days and they obviously have contact with other county councils (I could go on) and they confirm that is some areas they have done this and asked/told people to call it Winterval

[texasmr2]

Anyway, now that Bud has become BI (whatever that means!) maybe we should run a thread on that!

Ask and you shall recieve !

[Jensonb]

Clarkey wrote : I think PC rules have gone to far in destroying core rights of Britian, take Christmas and Christianity for example. Local councils are forcing some schools and other public services to refer to it as "Winterval" or something like that.

I know this is shifting away from the topic but is that for real? That would really offend me being Catholic. (I only follow FERRARIISM in the world of F1 of course *LOL*). What annoys me is that Christian countries like Britain (and there are others as well) that will do this compromise for non Christians but if you go to a Muslim country for example, none of these compromise exist or will ever exist. As far as I am concerned if you migrate to another country, although it is fine to still follow your own religion, one must adapt to the ways of the new country, ie accept Christmas as what it is and that is it.

No, no it's not. Yes, Britain is extremly PC. No, we do not ask anyone to refer to Christmas as "Winterval", that is an urban legend. "Winterval" was a name for something else from decades ago which was extremely localised.

@DarwinDali: Me too man, me too.

Yes it is. My old man was on the county council and still keeps in touch with all his old contacts from those days and they obviously have contact with other county councils (I could go on) and they confirm that is some areas they have done this and asked/told people to call it Winterval

Wow, you know some people in some pretty backward places. It is far from prevalent

[Clarkey3262]

Clarkey wrote : I think PC rules have gone to far in destroying core rights of Britian, take Christmas and Christianity for example. Local councils are forcing some schools and other public services to refer to it as "Winterval" or something like that.

I know this is shifting away from the topic but is that for real? That would really offend me being Catholic. (I only follow FERRARIISM in the world of F1 of course *LOL*). What annoys me is that Christian countries like Britain (and there are others as well) that will do this compromise for non Christians but if you go to a Muslim country for example, none of these compromise exist or will ever exist. As far as I am concerned if you migrate to another country, although it is fine to still follow your own religion, one must adapt to the ways of the new country, ie accept Christmas as what it is and that is it.

No, no it's not. Yes, Britain is extremly PC. No, we do not ask anyone to refer to Christmas as "Winterval", that is an urban legend. "Winterval" was a name for something else from decades ago which was extremely localised.

@DarwinDali: Me too man, me too.

Yes it is. My old man was on the county council and still keeps in touch with all his old contacts from those days and they obviously have contact with other county councils (I could go on) and they confirm that is some areas they have done this and asked/told people to call it Winterval

Wow, you know some people in some pretty backward places. It is far from prevalent

Maybe, but it still happens, far from the urban myth you stated it to be. In all fairness however no-one really listens to these requests, if anyone asked this of me they would have my anger to deal with and considering I am a pretty tall and built like a rugby prop forward (having played in said position) they would have to reconsider that request

[Jensonb]

Maybe, but it still happens, far from the urban myth you stated it to be. In all fairness however no-one really listens to these requests, if anyone asked this of me they would have my anger to deal with and considering I am a pretty tall and built like a rugby prop forward (having played in said position) they would have to reconsider that request

Whatever. It's certainly not something one can say is true of the UK in general. There's crazy stuff like that in isolated pockets worldwide.

[AKR]

I know this is on the main website for this forum and most of you have already read it but I think this article very much sums up all the facts on the Hamilton-Spain incident.

Analysis: The day F1 went tabloid
By Chrish on Friday, February 15, 2008
Filed Under: F1 Features, F1 News, F1 Testing, Lewis Hamilton, McLaren

The incidents at Barcelona a fortnight ago in which a small minority of Spanish fans hurled racist abuse at Lewis Hamilton caused a media backlash in the British press and led the FIA to introduce a new global anti-racism campaign. Christopher Hayes talks to Lino Uruñuela, webmaster of the Spanish Fan Site Fernando-Alonso.org, and assesses the reaction to events in Spain.

I realise the irony of criticising the media frenzy surrounding the race row by producing yet another article on the subject; but there are still some serious questions to be asked about the events in Barcelona.

Background: The Day F1 went tabloid

I will not revisit all the events during testing (see Forumula1.com’s own report here for more information). Suffice to say that during the three three-day test session at the Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona, Lewis Hamilton was booed and had racist abuse hurled at him by a small minority of fans. The abuse was at its worst on the second day when the chanting was instigated by a small group of Spanish fans wearing, dark curly wigs, black make-up and T-shirts with the words “Hamilton’s familyâ€