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[racechick]

So you're happy if your driver gets preferential treatment but if the driver you don't support gets it, it's a huge outrage?! A tad hypocritical methinks. Surely both should get the same?

Im not at all happy if my driver gets preferential treatment! Surely you've picked up that much. Now, take a deap breath , go back and read what I wrote. "Im happy that the driver in front gets the upgrade if theres only one available?" How is that hypercritical?? Yes both will get the same if two can be got ready. Both Jenson and Lewis accept this.

[andrew]

So you're happy if your driver gets preferential treatment but if the driver you don't support gets it, it's a huge outrage?! A tad hypocritical methinks. Surely both should get the same?

Im not at all happy if my driver gets preferential treatment! Surely you've picked up that much. Now, take a deap breath , go back and read what I wrote. "Im happy that the driver in front gets the upgrade if theres only one available?" How is that hypercritical?? Yes both will get the same if two can be got ready. Both Jenson and Lewis accept this.

If only one is available then neither should get it in terms of fairness until such time that two are available. Either that or they should flip a coin.

But no, I've not picked up that you're not at all happy if you driver gets preferential treatment.

[vaptin]

Teams operate on fairness as a means to an end (competitiveness), not as an end in itself . . . even McLaren. They have to make a big deal about treating their drivers equally because Jenson has been cautious and insisted on it, and he's a ruddy good driver so McLaren feel it's worth their while to comply and keep him hired and happy.

Yet their belief in fairness won't extend to an obvious reduction in performance (not using an upgrade).

[killem2]

I think some fans of this sport MIGHT be reading far too much in what people say.

[racechick]

And I think some fans MIGHT be a little naive, even when they get it straight from the horses mouth.

[myownalias]

About as much chance as a race happening without claims of Lewis Hamilton being screwed over by the team and/or stewards or Lewis Hamilton being accused of breaking the rules!

What I wrote in another thread about things that are unlikely to happen, and it rings true again... that is all!

[racechick]

But no, I've not picked up that you're not at all happy if you driver gets preferential treatment.

Then I'll say it one more time. THERE IS NO WAY I WANT MY DRIVER TO WIN BECAUSE HE RECEIVES PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. Ok?

[racechick]

About as much chance as a race happening without claims of Lewis Hamilton being screwed over by the team and/or stewards or Lewis Hamilton being accused of breaking the rules!

What I wrote in another thread about things that are unlikely to happen, and it rings true again... that is all!

Well blame Whitmarsh for this one, he's the one making the claim.

[andrew]

Just checked and it is!

"It's a dusty circuit so everyone waits a little bit and you only try to run with one set of tyres," Whitmarsh said. "We were just looking at general overall vehicle balance and just starting to do our setup programme which we'll really start in earnest this afternoon. Both drivers are reasonably happy with the balance, I think we need to work on traction and grip here but that's really why we've got the data from this morning and we can be ready this afternoon."

Whitmarsh admitted the main focus would be the tyres, as it had been this season, and admitted the differing styles between the two drivers meant it was a crucial factor in their respective performances.

"What we've got are very interesting dynamics in this team, and that is that Jenson is very experienced, super smart, great at using his tyres. In truth he's working and operating a team but he really wants to beat his team-mate. I think Lewis is learning as well, but there's no doubt this year has been about tyre pressures, tyre temperatures, really understanding how you get the best out of the tyre, how you get them up to temperature, how you really get the grip at both ends and then of course how you make the tyres last during a weekend."

[LRW]

More relevant to Lewis at the Mclaren situation I think.

THERE IS NO 'SITUATION'!!!!!

[andrew]

You could have just left it at there being no situation, no conspiracy and no one being screwed over and there would have been peace and harmony on the forum. Then we could have moved onto achieving world peace or discussing the race or something.

[LRW]

You could have just left it at there being no situation, no conspiracy and no one being screwed over and there would have been peace and harmony on the forum. Then we could have moved onto achieving world peace or discussing the race or something.

Moving on? On this forum?

[stonemonkey]

This might help

[killem2]

You are deliberatly choosing to read into what people say about Lewis Hamiliton, it is frankly disturbing to a level I've not seen from anyone since the Twilight Films had been released. There is no conspiracy. Lewis, with the exception of 2007 has never had anyone put against them that mattered, and now that so many people s*** on jenson button for so many years finally is showing what he can do when he too is in a great vehicle, YOU don't like it. I honestly do not understand how fans of this sport can idolize one damn driver, and then bash the team. Makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

You go on ahead though,and your little attention by getting threads locked, and drama it up some more.

Calling me naive, you got a lot of nerve. Just because I'm not outright Psycho when it comes to respecting mclaren and their choices doesn't make me naive. In fact, if I was a business man, and mclaren was a true A and B driver setup, one could clearly not fault mclaren for supporting jenson, because plan and simple, Lewis has been pretty shitty for the last 3 years in comparison.

Get over yourself. Now. Please.

[LRW]

You are deliberatly choosing to read into what people say about Lewis Hamiliton, it is frankly disturbing to a level I've not seen from anyone since the Twilight Films had been released. There is no conspiracy. Lewis, with the exception of 2007 has never had anyone put against them that mattered, and now that so many people s*** on jenson button for so many years finally is showing what he can do when he too is in a great vehicle, YOU don't like it. I honestly do not understand how fans of this sport can idolize one damn driver, and then bash the team. Makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

You go on ahead though,and your little attention by getting threads locked, and drama it up some more.

Calling me naive, you got a lot of nerve. Just because I'm not outright Psycho when it comes to respecting mclaren and their choices doesn't make me naive. In fact, if I was a business man, and mclaren was a true A and B driver setup, one could clearly not fault mclaren for supporting jenson, because plan and simple, Lewis has been pretty shitty for the last 3 years in comparison.

Get over yourself. Now. Please.