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[hounddub]

All the talk of Vettel and Webber conflict is rather irrelevant now that Red Bull have sewn up the Constructors championship.

For those who didn't listen to the BBC commentary last night they confirmed that in the Thursday interviews Vettel conceded that he "clearly understands the current situation" and that "he understands this is a team game"...and furthermore admitted that he will "do whatever it takes to ensure a Red Bull driver takes the World Driver's Championship".

The simple sanity -check is that Vettel will only be conceding to Webber if Alonso is running third at Abu Dahbi and the Red Bulls are running 1-2. On that basis I have to accept that this is the fairest way to ensure all drivers have a fair crack at the title right to the end. There is no doubt in my mind that if this scenario plays out Mark Webber will be the world champion. Any other scenario will not require team orders.

[Big Azza]

Or if Alonso is fourth.

Red Bull are in perfect position now and I cannot see Alonso winning the World Championship, unless Vettel's engine goes kaput. Very happy with the Brazil result and I know I'll be very happy next week, because either driver will have the championship and I'll be very happy if either of them win it.

We can sit back and relax - the pressure is on Alonso in my opinion. And if he gets the title due to overtaking a Red Bull, then hats off to him - he deserved it. But I would feel absolutely robbed and will issue death threats against which ever Red Bull driver concedes a place to him.

Of course, Alonso could qualify well and then it's a different ball game. But I think that is very unlikely.

[darwin dali]

The simple sanity -check is that Vettel will only be conceding to Webber if Alonso is running third at Abu Dahbi and the Red Bulls are running 1-2. On that basis I have to accept that this is the fairest way to ensure all drivers have a fair crack at the title right to the end. There is no doubt in my mind that if this scenario plays out Mark Webber will be the world champion. Any other scenario will not require team orders.

OR FA running fourth - same outcome and need for driver swap!

[hounddub]

Agreed....but frankly the three title contenders (OK...I know Lewis is still technically a possibility) are the class of the field. Can you REALLY see the Mclarens turning their current form around? Can you really see Massa joining them at the front? Can you really see Rosberg or Schumi being close?

[CarBore]

With the pace of Massa and the other cars, unless there is a failure on Alonso's car it will be either Webber or Alonso who walks away with the title IMO

[bud]

I think If the top 3 is the same as it were in Brazil, Vettel will not need to be told what to do and on the last lap pull aside for Webber. He has said he wants a Redbull driver to win the title. We will see if he means it.

[The_Stig_Money]

To beat Alonso we would need a Senna style take down and have Webber win, Vettel is better at crashing. JK

[Big Azza]

To beat Alonso we would need a Senna style take down and have Webber win, Vettel is better at crashing. JK

Good point. Would've thought of it if Vettel wasn't actually going to win the title.

[hounddub]

Vettel is better at crashing.

Urm...I think the best crash of the year must go to Mark Webber......a completely airborne Red Bull at Valencia!

[AKR]

Uh this last race, if Alonso cannot come at least second, would be super if McLaren were to win, even come 1st and 2nd, so long as Alonso gets 8 points more than Webber and 15 (Ithink) more than Vettel. Or how is this for a scenario, both Reb Bulls dont finish, Hamilton wins and Alonso comes 10th which will mean the 2 will finish on equal points but Alonso will still be World Champion on more race wins. That would be sweet and awesone.

[88mph]

Vettel is better at crashing.

Urm...I think the best crash of the year must go to Mark Webber......a completely airborne Red Bull at Valencia!

Webber deserves 10 WDC Points at least for that effort

[88mph]

Abu Dhabi - Possible Scenario

1st Hamilton
2nd Vettel
3rd Button
4th Webber
DNF Alonso

Webber 250 points
Vettel 249 points
Hamilton 247 points
Alonso 246
Button 204

[Gaz]

Don't forget Lewis's Pole lap was nearly a second faster than vettle.


1 1‡ Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.873 1:39.695 1:40.948 1
2 15 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:40.666 1:39.984 1:41.615 2
3 14 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:40.667 1:40.272 1:41.726 3

[The_Stig_Money]

Vettel is better at crashing.

Urm...I think the best crash of the year must go to Mark Webber......a completely airborne Red Bull at Valencia!

Webber deserves 10 WDC Points at least for that effort

x2

Vettel is more consistent in his crashing. LOL

Im kidding i would hate to see the WDC come down to a crash

[Mr.Conte]

Gawd, why does LH show up in every conversation around here but on the track he just shows up as an also ran?? LOL