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#114747
No, I think the new Red Bull will be instantly fast. The amount of simulation work they do among other things, I don't think there'll be a compromise at all. These guys are just so smart in the way they design the cars, I can't see something like that happening.


It's not just speed that determines whether or not a car can win a race - it's also reliability. There Ross has the edge vs. Newey and you can't really test that other than on the race track in a real race. We'll see...


Hasn't the Brawn shown more signs of potential reliability issues than the Red Bull so far, though?


If i remember rightly, the only problems Brawn have had are gearbox related, whereas RB have had more minor niggles (i think they've certainly had driveshaft problems)...


Didnt the Brawns run too hot and have to have little holes cut in the bodywork?


In Bahrain? Most likely, a lot of teams did similar things, like McLaren with their bodywork around the exhausts (the commentators mentioned it in the BBC coverage).
#114748
No, I think the new Red Bull will be instantly fast. The amount of simulation work they do among other things, I don't think there'll be a compromise at all. These guys are just so smart in the way they design the cars, I can't see something like that happening.


It's not just speed that determines whether or not a car can win a race - it's also reliability. There Ross has the edge vs. Newey and you can't really test that other than on the race track in a real race. We'll see...


Hasn't the Brawn shown more signs of potential reliability issues than the Red Bull so far, though?


If i remember rightly, the only problems Brawn have had are gearbox related, whereas RB have had more minor niggles (i think they've certainly had driveshaft problems)...


Didnt the Brawns run too hot and have to have little holes cut in the bodywork?

Yeah but I doubt any of the other races this year will be that hot and they still won!


Very true. But they may not have won had Vettel had a better race and Jens not got lucky with how cars got held up. I know I know all speculation but i think the red bull was as fast.

Toyota should of won they had the fastest car but their strategy was crap!
#114750
No, I think the new Red Bull will be instantly fast. The amount of simulation work they do among other things, I don't think there'll be a compromise at all. These guys are just so smart in the way they design the cars, I can't see something like that happening.


It's not just speed that determines whether or not a car can win a race - it's also reliability. There Ross has the edge vs. Newey and you can't really test that other than on the race track in a real race. We'll see...


Hasn't the Brawn shown more signs of potential reliability issues than the Red Bull so far, though?


If i remember rightly, the only problems Brawn have had are gearbox related, whereas RB have had more minor niggles (i think they've certainly had driveshaft problems)...


Didnt the Brawns run too hot and have to have little holes cut in the bodywork?

Yeah but I doubt any of the other races this year will be that hot and they still won!


Very true. But they may not have won had Vettel had a better race and Jens not got lucky with how cars got held up. I know I know all speculation but i think the red bull was as fast.

Toyota should of won they had the fastest car but their strategy was crap!

It was crap. They couldnt think on their feet just stuck with a strategy that was doomed.
#114775
Why do I keep thinking that this is a McLaren track? The 2008 race was a 1-2 for Ferrari.

Well I don't care. :twisted:

We will have two Red Bulls on the podium and Hamilton- OMG!!!! Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! Monacco is the one after this!!!! :D:clap:

Mark Webber does well there. He may actually win!!! That race will be a Red Bull 1-2.

But we are in Catalunya. The layout seems very similar to Shanghai. This will suit a Red Bull car. They could perhaps get a 1-2 in this race as well. I can't think of Brawn as an aerodynamicly gifted car despite it's DDD. So, while I did just say Hamilton on the podium, I have to be realistic.

Red Bull 1-2. Force India may get their first point's finish. Perhaps, they could even battle for a podium? We have to watch out for Renault. And Massa could do well here. I can't see the BMWs improving.

I'm keeping my eyes on Sutil, Alonso, Piquet and Buemi. My fifth eye ( :hehe: ) will be on Vettel.
#114854
Brawn's tyre treatment gives them a huge edge around Barcelona...

Monacco is the one after this!!!! :D:clap:

Mark Webber does well there. He may actually win!!! That race will be a Red Bull 1-2.


I agree, and unless it rains, i think we could very well see Schumacher's lap record from '04 broken around there this year...
#114981
Didnt the Brawns run too hot and have to have little holes cut in the bodywork?

Thing is that issue is being addressed. It only came up at all because they had to fit the Merc engine at the last minute. Changes made to the car for Spain will ensure adequate cooling from now on.
#114992
i reckon Brawn will clear off with this one. Spain generally falls to the team with the best aerodynamic package, although qualifying is quite important at Spain as clear air in the race is crucial so maybe Brawn will suffer again with getting one lap pace
#115010
i reckon Brawn will clear off with this one. Spain generally falls to the team with the best aerodynamic package, although qualifying is quite important at Spain as clear air in the race is crucial so maybe Brawn will suffer again with getting one lap pace


I wouldn't discount Red Bull, though with a caveat re. their updates, which could compromise their outstanding aero.
#115012
I'm not expecting Red Bull to make a big leap in performance at any point this season due to their package seeming to be quite optimised already. The diffuser update will require compromise at the rear and Newey's designs are usually difficult to develop.
#115015
My predictions sound really good when i think about them. But on the track... :yikes::whip::banghead:
so i wont even bother.

i just hope the new cars are able to produce an interesting race. There's plenty to look forward to, so at least expectations are good enough. Even though Brawn have a great package, it is still not 100% polished, so with the Red Bulls and Toyota being close enough (and who knows what will happen with the updated BMW, Ferrari, Renault.. and Mclaren doing what they can to bring better results than the package suggests) the race should not be boring.
#115016
My predictions sound really good when i think about them. But on the track... :yikes::whip::banghead:
so i wont even bother.

i just hope the new cars are able to produce an interesting race. There's plenty to look forward to, so at least expectations are good enough. Even though Brawn have a great package, it is still not 100% polished, so with the Red Bulls and Toyota being close enough (and who knows what will happen with the updated BMW, Ferrari, Renault.. and Mclaren doing what they can to bring better results than the package suggests) the race should not be boring.


The race should not be boring. Let's hope it isn't, I almost fell asleep on Bahrain. :yawn:
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