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[Fact Man]

I don't know if this was posted or not but I wonder how tense things are between Hamilton and McLaren?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/19042009/ ... stone.html

Dennis exit will not appease FIA – Ecclestone

Sun 19 Apr, 06:39 AM

Dennis exit will not appease FIA – Ecclestone

The withdrawal from Formula One of Ron Dennis is unlikely to appease the World Motor Sport Council when it meets later this month.

That is the opinion of F1 Chief Executive Bernie Ecclestone, amid suggestions Dennis may have stepped down from McLaren so that the Mercedes-powered team is treated less harshly by the FIA body.

"This is an issue for the McLaren team to deal with. This is not about the personalities of Ron and Max (Mosley)," Ecclestone said in Shanghai.

Woking-based McLaren, led by the FIA President's nemesis Dennis since the early 1980s, faces fraud charges following the 'lie-gate' affair.

"They still face the same range of punishments if the WMSC find them guilty,” Ecclestone said. “If he (Ron) resigned to stop the hearing, it won't work. This is about finding out if there was more to what happened than we have already learned."

Ecclestone said he was ‘sorry’ to see Dennis' more than 40-year involvement with the sport at an end.

Meanwhile, British Sunday newspapers are reporting that McLaren mechanics are furious with Lewis Hamilton. The Daily Mail said the reigning world champion ‘could count his friends on the fingers of one hand,’ after blaming the sacked Dave Ryan for lying to stewards and then threatening to quit McLaren.

[darwin dali]

I don't know if this was posted or not but I wonder how tense things are between Hamilton and McLaren?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/19042009/ ... stone.html

Dennis exit will not appease FIA – Ecclestone

Sun 19 Apr, 06:39 AM

Dennis exit will not appease FIA – Ecclestone

The withdrawal from Formula One of Ron Dennis is unlikely to appease the World Motor Sport Council when it meets later this month.

That is the opinion of F1 Chief Executive Bernie Ecclestone, amid suggestions Dennis may have stepped down from McLaren so that the Mercedes-powered team is treated less harshly by the FIA body.

"This is an issue for the McLaren team to deal with. This is not about the personalities of Ron and Max (Mosley)," Ecclestone said in Shanghai.

Woking-based McLaren, led by the FIA President's nemesis Dennis since the early 1980s, faces fraud charges following the 'lie-gate' affair.

"They still face the same range of punishments if the WMSC find them guilty,” Ecclestone said. “If he (Ron) resigned to stop the hearing, it won't work. This is about finding out if there was more to what happened than we have already learned."

Ecclestone said he was ‘sorry’ to see Dennis' more than 40-year involvement with the sport at an end.

Meanwhile, British Sunday newspapers are reporting that McLaren mechanics are furious with Lewis Hamilton. The Daily Mail said the reigning world champion ‘could count his friends on the fingers of one hand,’ after blaming the sacked Dave Ryan for lying to stewards and then threatening to quit McLaren.

The plot thickens...

[Gaz]

lol dailymail

they hate hamilton and the papers a comic

there sorce for this is apparenlty a "McLaren team insider said."

Well then it must be true! i mean somone in the TEAM is saying this guys.

They all so suggest that Dennis was Driven from the team by Lewis and his Dad.

Next they'll be suggesting that Anthony is taking over Mclaren and renaming it Hamilton F1 Racing and he will be replacing Hekki as a number 2 driver.

[Tony_sa]

lol dailymail

they hate hamilton and the papers a comic

there sorce for this is apparenlty a "McLaren team insider said."

Well then it must be true! i mean somone in the TEAM is saying this guys.

They all so suggest that Dennis was Driven from the team by Lewis and his Dad.

Next they'll be suggesting that Anthony is taking over Mclaren and renaming it Hamilton F1 Racing and he will be replacing Hekki as a number 2 driver.

Ya .. exactly. How can they believe someone inside the mclaren team if the all a lousy bunch of liars !!! is that what you meant??

[MAD MAX]

Ya .. exactly. How can they believe someone inside the mclaren team if the all a lousy bunch of liars !!! is that what you meant??

Oh come on Tony, they only bent the truth a little bit, how many times have you told chick's your well endowed, knowing that you told a little porkie-pie

[Tony_sa]

Ya .. exactly. How can they believe someone inside the mclaren team if the all a lousy bunch of liars !!! is that what you meant??

Oh come on Tony, they only bent the truth a little bit, how many times have you told chick's your well endowed, knowing that you told a little porkie-pie

I couldny resist posting that remark after longbows post. thats a insinuation that he agrees the daily mail got it from a insider at mclaren that was lying ... have i got it right .?? ..lol

[billindenver]

Ya .. exactly. How can they believe someone inside the mclaren team if the all a lousy bunch of liars !!! is that what you meant??

Oh come on Tony, they only bent the truth a little bit, how many times have you told chick's your well endowed, knowing that you told a little porkie-pie

Ok, here we go. You insult his manhood, he calls you a mouthy immature bunghole, you say blah blah blah, he says blah blah blah...and the rest of us have 8 pages of crap to sort through looking for the god damn point. I swear to god I wish the mods would finally start swinging the ban hammer around this place and the first two that need smacked down are you two. He is too easily baited by you and you are too easily tempted into doing so.

[MAD MAX]

Ok, here we go. You insult his manhood, he calls you a mouthy immature bunghole, you say blah blah blah, he says blah blah blah...and the rest of us have 8 pages of crap to sort through looking for the god damn point. I swear to god I wish the mods would finally start swinging the ban hammer around this place and the first two that need smacked down are you two. He is too easily baited by you and you are too easily tempted into doing so.

No you wrong in most parts, its a bit of light hearted banter both ways. Nothing malicious just a bit of leg pulling, so wind ya neck in oh perfect one

[Tony_sa]

Ya .. exactly. How can they believe someone inside the mclaren team if the all a lousy bunch of liars !!! is that what you meant??

Oh come on Tony, they only bent the truth a little bit, how many times have you told chick's your well endowed, knowing that you told a little porkie-pie

Ok, here we go. You insult his manhood, he calls you a mouthy immature bunghole, you say blah blah blah, he says blah blah blah...and the rest of us have 8 pages of crap to sort through looking for the god damn point. I swear to god I wish the mods would finally start swinging the ban hammer around this place and the first two that need smacked down are you two. He is too easily baited by you and you are too easily tempted into doing so.

Bill ....hi ... no.. its ok .. we were messing around a bit. but I get your point... this just not one of em..

[Tony_sa]

Billindenver

Have you noticed the starter of this thread and those that came with him disappeared all at the same time. came here c, caused a moerse argument ... got the thread locked and s***.... and then gone.

[McLaren Fan]

As much as I don't mind reading negative things about Hamilton, looking at it objectively, you'd have to say the fascist Daily Mail is not a reliable source, compared to a paper like The Times.

[Jensonb]

As much as I don't mind reading negative things about Hamilton, looking at it objectively, you'd have to say the fascist Daily Mail is not a reliable source, compared to a paper like The Times.

Absolutely 100% agreed. The Daily Fail is about as useful as things scrawled on the wall in crayon by a 2-year-old

[Lordblackstuff]

Ya .. exactly. How can they believe someone inside the mclaren team if the all a lousy bunch of liars !!! is that what you meant??

Oh come on Tony, they only bent the truth a little bit, how many times have you told chick's your well endowed, knowing that you told a little porkie-pie

Ok, here we go. You insult his manhood, he calls you a mouthy immature bunghole, you say blah blah blah, he says blah blah blah...and the rest of us have 8 pages of crap to sort through looking for the god damn point. I swear to god I wish the mods would finally start swinging the ban hammer around this place and the first two that need smacked down are you two. He is too easily baited by you and you are too easily tempted into doing so.

Bellender your just picking for a fight again.

Max and Tony are just having a laugh but youve got to have your say.
A righter of wrongs a knight for justice .
Well all your doing is spoiling for a fight.
Just butt out of other peoples arguements.
You did the exact same with me as well


Time to go back to F1

[Lordblackstuff]

Ya .. exactly. How can they believe someone inside the mclaren team if the all a lousy bunch of liars !!! is that what you meant??

Oh come on Tony, they only bent the truth a little bit, how many times have you told chick's your well endowed, knowing that you told a little porkie-pie

Ok, here we go. You insult his manhood, he calls you a mouthy immature bunghole, you say blah blah blah, he says blah blah blah...and the rest of us have 8 pages of crap to sort through looking for the god damn point. I swear to god I wish the mods would finally start swinging the ban hammer around this place and the first two that need smacked down are you two. He is too easily baited by you and you are too easily tempted into doing so.

Bill ....hi ... no.. its ok .. we were messing around a bit. but I get your point... this just not one of em..

Well said Tony

[Big Azza]

So you have been following F1 for a few years, which is great , yet you only see one driver on the grid and that is the issue. LH is a fantastic driver yet the 'he is all that' bs is just that, nothing but bs.

tex

Err... I support Vettel now? But I can still recognise that Hamilton is a great driver. True, I don't like some of his personality traits. But come on! That doesn't make him responsible for the departure of Ron!

Hey, I've even had a few positive words for Raikkonen before on this site. Even Alonso. I'm just more inclined to defend Hamilton, because the other guys don't attract as much hate as this guy! For no apparent reason!

Does anyone remember how Fernando Alonso was also an arrogant piece of ? Or Kimmi Raikkonen's (lack of) personality?

Never question people's personality! I get it all the time. You are who you are, and you are who you are for a reason. And no one better understands your situation than, you yourself. So the press know nothing. And further more, a personality trait does not really affect a drivers ability to drive. It might show a little bit in their driving style. I.e. Lewis Hamilton's arrogance in his driving style leaving all other's for dead when overtaking, but perfectly legal which makes him a fantastic driver. Or Sebastien Vettel's patience, allowing him to outperform in the wet.

All you guys do is speculate....