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#351932
It's okay, he'll come to a different conclusion on the same topic in another thread tomorrow. It's just how andrew works, and it's why his fans adore him. :hehe:
#351952
This is what Whitmarsh said first

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106349

"For about 120 milliseconds, he had a green light, so with lightning-speed reaction - just as he's paid to do - he pulled away," Whitmarsh said.

"Those lights are controlled by a whole number of circumstances, like micro-switches and buttons that are around the car and a button was pressed and then released for about 120 milliseconds.

"These people are trying to do sub-two-second stops. There's a lot going on in that time and a lot of pressure on people. Human error resulted in a green light.

"It's one of those occasions when you wish your driver wasn't so quick off the mark..."


When you combine that with Brundle pointing out that Button was jumping the gun a little at pitstops at the last race things are no longer as straightforward

A button was pressed and released for about 120 milliseconds? Surely not by the guy who knew he hadnt completed his task. Is nt the idea of the electronic system that every participant reports directly to the control unit that he is done, so avoiding a human relying on signals?

So who pushed the button for the guy who knew he hadnt completed his task? who pushed and released it?
#351957
.......

Straight from the horses mouth.


Yes Andrew we've seen what MW said. We've already quoted him above. Doesnt mean we cant debate it.

And, in this instance, I would say the horse is Button.


I didn't see thus why I posted it. I would suggest thaty Whitmarsh's opinion on the matter is just as valid and accurate as Buttons. But hey, if you want to believe a madcap theory go ahead.


I didnt say I believed it. Im discussing it to try to draw an opionion. I started off the conversation thinking it could no-way be Buttons fault. Someone gave me a counter-theory, which made think there is the possibility of Jeson taking some blame. Cookin's theory is far from 'madcapped'.

You see, this is what is meant to happen in discussions Andrew - You need to be open to changing your mind when new evidence supports it, and not just stick your head in the sand and blindly stick to your own initial conclusions.


No need to be patronising thank. I am fully aware of what a discussion is. :rolleyes:

I'll stick with my own initial conclusion as it ties in with what Whitmarsh has said, but what would he know? I mean he was only on the pitwall during the race and will have a lot more data at his disposal than us armchair enthusiasts.
#355307
Last night I jettisoned Sergio from my fantasy team. I know that McLaren's situation caught a lot of people off guard but I felt that he would have been more adaptable as a driver. I hope he comes around and is at least able to match Button in qualifying if not in results.
#355308
Yeah...I mean Button isn't exactly one of the best qualifiers out there, if Perez wants to be known as a future superstar he's gotta be matching him and then beating him soon.
By LRW
#355310
Do you think, if Perez hasnt improved by the end of the season McLaren will buy him out of his contract - or will they stick with it another year to get some returns on their investment in him...?

The trend is for young drivers to nit get much time to prove themselves in this sport ....
#355312
Depends what you mean by ROI. I think McLaren are already getting some good ROI from Telmex....it depends how much money they need from Telmex, if they get some good cash from them no harm keeping a pay driver. :D
#355313
I think a lot will depend on whether Mclaren's mystery sponsor at year's end is owned by Carlos Slim or not.
#355322
I actually believe McLaren took Sergio on because he is the third most marketable F1 driver behind Lewis and Seb at the moment. They have designs on Central and South America and much of their future sponsorship hopes are in this area as the team have already said. Therefore there will be a strong commercial reason to keep him, Carlos Slim is by far the biggest one.

Come the end of the season, without a big change, I would actually expect Buttons seat to be more likely to be available than Sergios. A bit like Maldo at Williams there is no way McLaren can afford to dump Sergio if he is there because of sponsorship, and if he isn't then McLaren have taken a driver Ferrari rejected, cant see Ron would have let that happen.

Also that would explain why Whitmarsh has been critical of Sergio in public, possibly an attempt to drive a better deal from Telmex/Slim

IMHO
#355327
Sergio Perez 'amazed' by amount of criticism

Sergio Perez is amazed that he has faced a barrage of criticism after his poor Chinese Grand Prix weekend.

The Mexican struggled for pace in Shanghai last weekend and was involved in three separate incidents, including an embarrassing crash into the pit wall after Friday practice.

With McLaren boss Martin Whitmarsh saying that Perez could not be satisfied with how he performed, there is mounting pressure on the Mexican to ensure he does not suffer another nightmare in Bahrain this time out.

But Perez has downplayed any suggestion that he is feeling the heat, and says he is more surprised that the critics have spoken out considering he did so well in the first two races of the year.

"At McLaren everyone is watching your performance - in every single practice session, every single race," he said in Bahrain on Thursday.

"I find it quite amazing that after three weekends when I had two good weekends in terms of maximising the car potential, that after one bad weekend I received so many criticisms.

"But I think this is quite normal and usual for a team like McLaren."

Perez says that he is not fussed about such criticisms though, as he is sure that he will be able to do much better with McLaren in the future.

"If I am totally honest, I am not bothered about it," he said. "I am here to do my job and I will try my best this weekend and the next 16 weekends.

"I will keep trying my best on those 16 weekends, I will keep trying my very best which I have been doing up until now."

Perez also understands Whitmarsh's suggestion that he needed to toughen up, but reckons doing so was not so easy with the way strategy battles were playing out in F1 now.

"It is difficult to judge when you can be aggressive and when not," he said.

"When you are in a different strategy and mainly looking after the tyres, the worst thing you can do is fight someone next to you who is on a different strategy - two or three seconds faster than you

"So you are not fighting that guy, you are fighting someone who is behind you. It is a difficult balance to judge."


I'm amazed at him being amazed!
#355333
Whitmarsh is being unbelievably mean on this young man! Why isn't Button stepping in to support him? Hmmmmm?
#355334
Whitmarsh is being unbelievably mean on this young man! Why isn't Button stepping in to support him? Hmmmmm?


I don't think the husband would appreciate his wife opposing his views publicly...we don't want family feud in the Whitmarsh household do we.
#355340
Whitmarsh is being unbelievably mean on this young man! Why isn't Button stepping in to support him? Hmmmmm?


No he's not. Perez hasn't covered himself in glory as many expected and has underperformed. It's quite right he gets his backside hoofed by the gaffer. Plus you don't know what goes on behind closed doors.
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