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#231100
Yes I do want Aero to be restricted and use of mechanical grip more widespread! I make no bones about that, but I also want more technical creativity in the engine department and mechanical grip. Having teams come up with endless aero to make their car go faster does not make for good racing as similar powered cars can never follow close enough behind to take advantage of the slipstream effect, the KERS system and moveable rear wing are technical solutions to a problem that didn't exist 10 years ago!


I don't think there is any lack of technical creativity in any place on a modern F1 car for the most part. In my opinion if you reduced aero development you are removing creativity rather than adding any.

I know you would rather the heavily restricted aero development approach to solving overtaking problems in modern F1 over this new system of adjustable rear wings and KERS but is that because you know the restricted aero approach will work, where this new way might not? Or because you feel like these new rules will simply fabricate overtaking?

Also to defend the FIA and their regs they have made moves forward before to eliminate piss taking aero development.

Remember the x wings and ladders? :rofl:
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I think if these new regs don't work next year then your really low aero regs might be the only solution.
#231101
I wouldnt mind 10 lap battles for position even if there is no net change. I mean, isnt that really interesting? The drivers will pour their hearts out so that they can just hold their position and do the same to take it.

Isnt that what we want?

Also, KERS+Collapsed rear wing+simpler aero= 220>mph on the bigger straights?
#231130
Lets hope for the benefit of the sport that the new rule changes work, but want we dont want is where one car can start following the one infront and turn up and then pass without breaking sweat unless your following a slower car of course
#231157
Remember the x wings and ladders? :rofl:
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I think if these new regs don't work next year then your really low aero regs might be the only solution.


WHAT
THE
HELL

:yikes:


:rofl::rofl:
#231164
It's gonna be interesting alright, especially at somewhere like Monaco where you can easily get huge trains of 5, 6 cars all within maybe 2 seconds of one another! :hehe: If that happens down into the post-tunnel chicane there... well, use your imagination....

I am glad it effectively means processions like Bahrain this year are basically rendered impossible though, even if it is artificial it'll at least be something to frigging watch.

I'm also slightly concerned that someone might end up having the mother and father of all shunts at 200mph. Imagine if we get a wet Monza again.
#231165
It's gonna be interesting alright, especially at somewhere like Monaco where you can easily get huge trains of 5, 6 cars all within maybe 2 seconds of one another! :hehe: If that happens down into the post-tunnel chicane there... well, use your imagination....

I am glad it effectively means processions like Bahrain this year are basically rendered impossible though, even if it is artificial it'll at least be something to frigging watch.

I'm also slightly concerned that someone might end up having the mother and father of all shunts at 200mph. Imagine if we get a wet Monza again.


or at eau rouge at spa and im sure that the nessacary safety measures have been carefully considered
#231166
It's gonna be interesting alright, especially at somewhere like Monaco where you can easily get huge trains of 5, 6 cars all within maybe 2 seconds of one another! :hehe: If that happens down into the post-tunnel chicane there... well, use your imagination....

I am glad it effectively means processions like Bahrain this year are basically rendered impossible though, even if it is artificial it'll at least be something to frigging watch.

I'm also slightly concerned that someone might end up having the mother and father of all shunts at 200mph. Imagine if we get a wet Monza again.


or at eau rouge at spa and im sure that the nessacary safety measures have been carefully considered


I haven't read through the regs enough to see exactly how they intend to allow a driver to adjust their rear wing.

I would presume it is a button and if the driver has to be less than a second behind another driver the mechanism is activated/deactivated based on gaps read per sector.

If this is the case, they should be able to control the systems and turn them off if they are just too risky on certain sectors.

Although, like your brake and accelerator pedal the control is in the driver's hands and if they use the control wrong (the rear wing adjustment) then they deserve to crash just like if you brake too late.
#231167
It's gonna be interesting alright, especially at somewhere like Monaco where you can easily get huge trains of 5, 6 cars all within maybe 2 seconds of one another! :hehe: If that happens down into the post-tunnel chicane there... well, use your imagination....

I am glad it effectively means processions like Bahrain this year are basically rendered impossible though, even if it is artificial it'll at least be something to frigging watch.

I'm also slightly concerned that someone might end up having the mother and father of all shunts at 200mph. Imagine if we get a wet Monza again.


or at eau rouge at spa and im sure that the nessacary safety measures have been carefully considered


I haven't read through the regs enough to see exactly how they intend to allow a driver to adjust their rear wing.

I would presume it is a button and if the driver has to be less than a second behind another driver the mechanism is activated/deactivated based on gaps read per sector.

If this is the case, they should be able to control the systems and turn them off if they are just too risky on certain sectors.

Although, like your brake and accelerator pedal the control is in the driver's hands and if they use the control wrong (the rear wing adjustment) then they deserve to crash just like if you brake too late.

A bit harsh :D
#231168
It's gonna be interesting alright, especially at somewhere like Monaco where you can easily get huge trains of 5, 6 cars all within maybe 2 seconds of one another! :hehe: If that happens down into the post-tunnel chicane there... well, use your imagination....

I am glad it effectively means processions like Bahrain this year are basically rendered impossible though, even if it is artificial it'll at least be something to frigging watch.

I'm also slightly concerned that someone might end up having the mother and father of all shunts at 200mph. Imagine if we get a wet Monza again.


If you have a car less than a second in front and a car less than a second behind, can you employ your movable rear wing?
#231169
It's gonna be interesting alright, especially at somewhere like Monaco where you can easily get huge trains of 5, 6 cars all within maybe 2 seconds of one another! :hehe: If that happens down into the post-tunnel chicane there... well, use your imagination....

I am glad it effectively means processions like Bahrain this year are basically rendered impossible though, even if it is artificial it'll at least be something to frigging watch.

I'm also slightly concerned that someone might end up having the mother and father of all shunts at 200mph. Imagine if we get a wet Monza again.


or at eau rouge at spa and im sure that the nessacary safety measures have been carefully considered


I haven't read through the regs enough to see exactly how they intend to allow a driver to adjust their rear wing.

I would presume it is a button and if the driver has to be less than a second behind another driver the mechanism is activated/deactivated based on gaps read per sector.

If this is the case, they should be able to control the systems and turn them off if they are just too risky on certain sectors.

Although, like your brake and accelerator pedal the control is in the driver's hands and if they use the control wrong (the rear wing adjustment) then they deserve to crash just like if you brake too late.

A bit harsh :D


Not really. :whip:

I'd say there will be limits to how much downforce can be taken off the rear wing per track or maybe even per sector so for dangerous parts of the track the amount of rear wing drag you can drop will be limited.

That would probably be the safest way to do it that I can think of.
#231201
I'm also slightly concerned that someone might end up having the mother and father of all shunts at 200mph.


We already had that this year ... Webber/Kovalainen

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