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By cap-dude
#186041
I guess Campos will hopefully get it's funding sorted out so it can receive delivery of it's car that they have had built for them and then Stefan GP will take USF1 spot and use the modified Toyota chassis which I bet is already built.

I heard a claim that they planned to test next week at Portimao. I also seen a website say that Nakajima was definitely one of their drivers.

It's all rumours at this stage, but Stefan GP seem to be well organized and surely they can make the grid at Bahrain. It's impressive considering what a challenge it was for Lotus to build a car on such short notice.
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By Denthúl
#186042
I guess Campos will hopefully get it's funding sorted out so it can receive delivery of it's car that they have had built for them and then Stefan GP will take USF1 spot and use the modified Toyota chassis which I bet is already built.

I heard a claim that they planned to test next week at Portimao. I also seen a website say that Nakajima was definitely one of their drivers.

It's all rumours at this stage, but Stefan GP seem to be well organized and surely they can make the grid at Bahrain. It's impressive considering what a challenge it was for Lotus to build a car on such short notice.


Stefan's cars were already built by Toyota before Christmas and we know that the vast majority of their equipment is in Bahrain already.
#186044
Looks like the American dream is over bar some sort of miracle. I can sense Mr Ecclestone jumping up and down right now yelling "HAHAHA!! I told you so! I told you so! I told you so!" over and over again.
#186046
Looks like the American dream is over bar some sort of miracle. I can sense Mr Ecclestone jumping up and down right now yelling "HAHAHA!! I told you so! I told you so! I told you so!" over and over again.


Me too!


Driver Lineups for 2010

Postby Gilles 27 » 30 Sep 09, 16:36
Predict or confirm any driver lineup ideas you may have or have found somewhere.

Here are mine

1. Ferrari - Massa + Alonso
2. McLaren - Raikkonen + Hamilton
3. Renault - Kubica + Grosjean
4. Brawn - Rosberg + Button
5. Red Bull - Webber + Vettel
6. Toyota - not competing
7. Williams - Barrichello + Hulkenberg
8. Lotus - Glock + some random pay driver
9. Sauber - Heidfeld + Kovalainen
10. Manor - Petrov + some random pay driver
11. USGP - not competing
12. Campos - De la Rosa + Di Grassi
13. Force India - Sutil + Liuzzi
14. Toro Rosso - Algesuari + Buemi


I may be sh*te at predicting driver lineups but i seem to have a decent nose for team entrant realism level assessment... 8-)
#186084
I am really shocked that so many informed and intelligent people didn't see through this "USF1" SCAM some time ago.
Yes…SCAM… fits nicely. Peter Windsor knows at least as much as the next dork what goes on in a proper F1 operation. Don't try to convince me that he ever REALLY thought he was going racing at that level. If he did, his detachment from reality was clinical and dangerous and he should be seen by professionals (real professionals like Peter Sauber or Frank Williams)

These guys stole opportunity from real efforts that might have otherwise materialized, credibility from the whole concept of America in F1, and maybe money from sponsors, drivers, vendors and investors (who all should have known better if they were a bit more Zen and a bit less "hopeful").

The good thing is that we surely never have to listen to Peters smug pitlane interviews that never exposed more than his resentment/jealousy towards the real stars of the sport.

You folks who silently participated in this "ruse" (intentionally or otherwise) by NOT erupting into belly laughs when "investigating" or "reporting on" the "operation" in Charlotte will have their chance to explain themselves. Do you have a clue....or do you DON't have a clue?

Steve Matchett and Bob Varsha (others).....c'mon guys. You have both been to McLaren International. How could you walk into that community college computer lab and NOT say "wait a minute old pal, something smells funny". Those CNC mills were marketing tools....not production tools. How is it possible for you to see what was being passed off as an F1 effort and not be a little skeptical at least (or just start slapping your knees and pointing your fingers as if Windsor announced Oprah as a candidate for a race seat...he might as well have).
I understand there were lots of good folks who saw this through rose colored visors. The drivers, fans, many of the employees surely wanted this to be real so badly that they "parked" their intuition.

Lesson Learned?



I am not even sure where to start with this post so I'll just use an emoticon. :thumbdown:
By vaptin
#186141
Hmm, I'll put the feelers out on this one - Do you think the two US drivers thing brought them trouble? My take is they set themselves up to gain the American support etc which wasn't really there at the time and failed really.
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By bud
#186142
Yes, the problem was the US did not get behind this team. It was doomed without sponsorship money.

cant blame anyone but the American companies not putting their money where their mouth is.
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By scotty
#186159
Who was looking forward to seeing them? Really....


Quite a lot of Americans were/are it seems. :confused:
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By Hexagram
#186168
What annoys me is we could have had Prodrive instead of USF1 who would not have had this sort of trouble and would probably be testing now at Jerez as we speak.
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