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[darwin dali]

Alright, I'll bite - whats the prize?

Take a wild guess...

[Jabberwocky]

Maybe Todt will win a Nobel Peace Prize for not being Mosley!


*the above comment has nothing to do with Obama and Bush lol

[Jenson's Beard]

About time. Especially with the new teams coming into the frame, this was a necessity rather than an improvement.

[Rusko]

awesome, i was saying on here yesterday that the answer is to improve the gap between points awarded for first and second.

[Cubejam]

This all rides on the WMSC approving it though..... although they did approve Bernies medal system... till it was scrapped due to threat of legal action.

I was reading the comments on F1 Fanatic about this.... and ... pretty much everyone on there hates the idea. They hate everything about it..... strange. I dont feel that way.

[Big Azza]

Because they're fanatics.

I'm also lukewarm about it.

25 points for a win is a bit too much in my opinion. If you compare these points to how they used to be 30 years ago it doesn't look like the same sport. We're almost pushing into NASCAR numbers.

I can however see the obvious benefits, as it does reward the top 3.

[McLamilton]

While I agree about the increased gap between the top 3 positions, especially between first and second, and the awarding of points for first to tenth place rather than the current top eight, I disagree about 25 points being awarded for first place. Honestly think that it's a bit too much.

[headless]

I thought of it before i was born!

I sold the idea to MotoGP

[headless]

I think teh winner should also get a big meal

[scotty]

A good little article:

What the new points mean for F1

By Steven English Friday, December 11th 2009, 15:17 GMT

The previous two changes to the Formula 1 points scoring system were implemented to alter the weighting between each position. The new-for-1991 system increased the winner's score from 9 to 10, then the 2003 tweak increased the prize for second place from 6 to 8, and extended to eighth place.

The latest change, confirmed by the FIA World Motor Sport Council today, although it seems to be the most dramatic in the sport's history, is not intended to - and will not - significantly alter the outcome of a championship.

Instead, it is simply to further increase the number of scoring cars from eight to 10 in accordance with the grid being boosted to 26 cars. In essence, it is just to make the smaller teams more likely to score and to give them something to fight for.

The higher scores will punish retirements more heavily, but in turn a driver can recover more quickly with a greater number of points on offer for a win or podium finish.

Under the 2010 system, the result of this year's championship would have been exactly the same. Jenson Button would have beaten Sebastian Vettel (243 points to 203), with Rubens Barrichello third (187), Mark Webber fourth (178), Lewis Hamilton fifth (123), Kimi Raikkonen sixth (119), etc.

The close finishes of 2007 and 2008 would have retained the same order under the new system, with the following scores:

2008
Lewis Hamilton 240
Felipe Massa 239

2007
Kimi Raikkonen 271
Lewis Hamilton 270
Fernando Alonso 268

The close finish of 2003 would also have produced the same result, with Michael Schumacher beating Raikkonen 225 to 221.

In fact, you'd have to go back to 1999 to find the first change of place. Under the 2010 system, Eddie Irvine would have beaten Mika Hakkinen to the title 230 to 218. But Irvine would also have won that title under the 2003-2009 system.

The only major impact next season's system will have is the affect the 2.5x increase to each place has on the statistical history of F1.

For example, in their careers Ayrton Senna scored 614 points, Nigel Mansell 482 and Jackie Stewart 360. A rookie driver now could pass all three in three seasons. Even Schumacher's 1369 wouldn't take all that much catching, which makes rather a mess of history for those that value the all-time stats.

But equally, you could already have argued that the statistics are skewed by the increase from 9 to 10 for a win, from six to eight cars scoring, by the varying amount of dropped scores between 1967 and 1990, and by the number of races in a season – from seven in 1950 to 19 in 2005.

[Jabberwocky]

1st - 25
2nd - 20
3rd - 15
4th - 10
5th - 8
6th - 6
7th - 5
8th - 3
9th - 2
10th - 1

it does not make that much difference really
as a 2nd and a 7th place will still add up to 1 win

Button would of got 100 points in 4 races and not the whole season

[Jabberwocky]

It is being reported as approved on the F1 website

[scotty]

It is being reported as approved on the F1 website

Confirmed earlier on -

FIA announces new F1 points system

By Steven English Friday, December 11th 2009, 14:58 GMT

Formula 1 will introduce a new points system from 2010 after the FIA World Motor Sport Council approved the F1 Commission's proposal to award points to the top 10 finishers in each race.

A statement from today's meeting of the World Council said: "Due to the expanded grid of 13 teams, and further to the recommendation of the F1 Commission, a new points system will be in place for the 2010 season."

The new system will award points in the following order: 25-20-15-10-8-6-5-3-2-1.

The change was proposed to take into account the increased field for 2010, when the addition of the new entrants will take the grid up to 26 cars - its highest figure since 1995.

It is the first amendment since the current system came into force in 2003.

[Jensonb]

Wow! Unexpected news. It would mix things up a hell of a lot, and it's far better than the sodding medals.

rewards winning alot more

It seems that way, but it doesn't really. 2nd is still worth 80% the Points of 1st and one 2nd and one 7th is still worth a 1st. What it does do is reward 4th-6th proportionally less, so essentially it favours consistent Podium finishers more.

[vaptin]

Its cool that its been improved,

for me the main focus isn't on the gap between first and second, but that more places are now up for point scores. Should be really interesting to watch the new teams go at it.