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Re: Qakbak BMW takeover collapses - team sold back to Sauber#172272

By Jabberwocky - 27 Nov 09, 14:38

- 27 Nov 09, 14:38#172272

But Honda at the time had the same sort of respect as Toyota do now. Brawn however is a Multi Championship winning team.

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Re: Qakbak BMW takeover collapses - team sold back to Sauber#172275

By darwin dali - 27 Nov 09, 14:45

- 27 Nov 09, 14:45#172275

But Honda at the time had the same sort of respect as Toyota do now. Brawn however is a Multi Championship winning team.

Sure, but Merc has their own skilled people and all - plus Ross was already there and he commands enough respect to boot.

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Re: Qakbak BMW takeover collapses - team sold back to Sauber#172282

By headless - 27 Nov 09, 14:49

- 27 Nov 09, 14:49#172282

Wonder how much change Ross will feel now his name isn't above teh door.

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Re: Qakbak BMW takeover collapses - team sold back to Sauber#172283

By Jabberwocky - 27 Nov 09, 14:50

- 27 Nov 09, 14:50#172283

but BMW never got ride of the Sauber name. maybe it will be the same

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Re: Qakbak BMW takeover collapses - team sold back to Sauber#172286

By darwin dali - 27 Nov 09, 14:59

- 27 Nov 09, 14:59#172286

Wonder how much change Ross will feel now his name isn't above teh door.

I reckon not too much. Merc expressively wanted him to stay in charge or no deal.

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Re: Qakbak BMW takeover collapses - team sold back to Sauber#172300

By Gaz - 27 Nov 09, 17:48

- 27 Nov 09, 17:48#172300

Ross the Boss bought Honda for £1 and then sold it 3/4 of it 10 months later for rumoured £30 million. I am sure your bank manager might help you out with a business plan like that.

If you think in those terms, how stupid was it for Mercedes to wait a year and see the price go up rather than buying the Honda team for a buck when it was on sale?

Would of been a big risk tho, and Honda wouldn't of helped by giving 100 mil they did to Ross. If merc did buy the team i expect they would of just taken the BGP001 sacked Hekki and Rubens and re badged it the MP4-24.

Or made a 'b' team with Hekki and Rubens.

Re: Qakbak BMW takeover collapses - team sold back to Sauber#172310

By Jensonb - 27 Nov 09, 19:07

- 27 Nov 09, 19:07#172310

Ross the Boss bought Honda for £1 and then sold it 3/4 of it 10 months later for rumoured £30 million. I am sure your bank manager might help you out with a business plan like that.

If you think in those terms, how stupid was it for Mercedes to wait a year and see the price go up rather than buying the Honda team for a buck when it was on sale?

Would of been a big risk tho, and Honda wouldn't of helped by giving 100 mil they did to Ross. If merc did buy the team i expect they would of just taken the BGP001 sacked Hekki and Rubens and re badged it the MP4-24.

Or made a 'b' team with Hekki and Rubens.

Assuming McLaren would have allowed the deal to go through, which seems unlikely.

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Re: Qakbak BMW takeover collapses - team sold back to Sauber#172316

By scotty - 27 Nov 09, 19:59

- 27 Nov 09, 19:59#172316

Ross the Boss bought Honda for £1 and then sold it 3/4 of it 10 months later for rumoured £30 million. I am sure your bank manager might help you out with a business plan like that.

If you think in those terms, how stupid was it for Mercedes to wait a year and see the price go up rather than buying the Honda team for a buck when it was on sale?

Would of been a big risk tho, and Honda wouldn't of helped by giving 100 mil they did to Ross. If merc did buy the team i expect they would of just taken the BGP001 sacked Hekki and Rubens and re badged it the MP4-24.

Or made a 'b' team with Hekki and Rubens.

I think Mercedes are only buying this team because McLaren wouldn't let them buy further into the F1 team, if you get me.

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Re: Qakbak BMW takeover collapses - team sold back to Sauber#172317

By 7UpJordan - 27 Nov 09, 20:01

- 27 Nov 09, 20:01#172317

Great news for Sauber, I am glad they decided to wind their necks back in eventually and sell to Peter like they should have done so in the first place. :thumbup:

Hopefully this will now mean the FIA can allow Sauber a place on the grid now Quackback are out of the picture.

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Re: Qakbak BMW takeover collapses - team sold back to Sauber#172320

By scotty - 27 Nov 09, 20:05

- 27 Nov 09, 20:05#172320

Hopefully this will now mean the FIA can allow Sauber a place on the grid now Quackback are out of the picture.

I'd be completely astonished if they didn't, given the Renault situation. Any bets on potential drivers then people? Heidfeld is the obvious candidate, but there's not really much choice for a second driver... Kobayashi? That would be pretty good actually! :thumbup:

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Re: Qakbak BMW takeover collapses - team sold back to Sauber#172324

By Cubejam - 27 Nov 09, 20:17

- 27 Nov 09, 20:17#172324

Yeah, I thought exactly that, Heidfeld & Kobayashi. Peter Sauber is usually first in for the newbie rising talent (when Eddie Jordan wasn't) so I think he'll grab him... whether Mercedes sign Heidfeld or not that is the issue, im sure Heidfeld will want a car that can win... but also at the same time will want to stay true to Sauber