FORUMula1.com - F1 Forum

Discuss the sport you love with other motorsport fans

Formula One related discussion.
#89835
The way it is, is just fine by me. Have a WDC and a WCC - in many cases it's going to be the same team for both titles (check the history), but sometimes it's not as, e.g., was the case last year.
Having a separate WCC also prevents teams from hiring only one extremely good (and presumably expensive) driver to pair up with a cheapo dud driver as the WCC rewards the team for consistency not only across the entire season, but also between the drivers. So no putting all the eggs in one basket which could be a temptation with the current economic crisis and cost cutting measures.
User avatar
By Denthúl
#89838
The way it is, is just fine by me. Have a WDC and a WCC - in many cases it's going to be the same team for both titles (check the history), but sometimes it's not as, e.g., was the case last year.
Having a separate WCC also prevents teams from hiring only one extremely good (and presumably expensive) driver to pair up with a cheapo dud driver as the WCC rewards the team for consistency not only across the entire season, but also between the drivers. So no putting all the eggs in one basket which could be a temptation with the current economic crisis and cost cutting measures.


Unless you're Renault? :P
#89842
The way it is, is just fine by me. Have a WDC and a WCC - in many cases it's going to be the same team for both titles (check the history), but sometimes it's not as, e.g., was the case last year.
Having a separate WCC also prevents teams from hiring only one extremely good (and presumably expensive) driver to pair up with a cheapo dud driver as the WCC rewards the team for consistency not only across the entire season, but also between the drivers. So no putting all the eggs in one basket which could be a temptation with the current economic crisis and cost cutting measures.


Unless you're Renault? :P


I was thinking the exact same thing! :hehe:
Once Renault hire a GOOD second driver, everybody watch out - they'll try for the WCC! :P
#89844
The way it is, is just fine by me. Have a WDC and a WCC - in many cases it's going to be the same team for both titles (check the history), but sometimes it's not as, e.g., was the case last year.
Having a separate WCC also prevents teams from hiring only one extremely good (and presumably expensive) driver to pair up with a cheapo dud driver as the WCC rewards the team for consistency not only across the entire season, but also between the drivers. So no putting all the eggs in one basket which could be a temptation with the current economic crisis and cost cutting measures.


Unless you're Renault? :P

:rofl:
User avatar
By f1ea
#89845
The WDC is more important than the WCC because... we need heroes.

While the WCC is ussually more accurate (except in 08), the WDC is the one that most outlines both the team and driver 's talents. Because even with the disparity that having the best car may bring... having the best car is not the ONLY thing and viceversa. Kimi, Heikki, Piquet, Kubica, Vettel and others can help us all agree.

So yeah, I find the WDC the most interesting because even in itself, it encompasses the team aspect of the sport. The WCC is good, its a great incentive and recognition for all the people who work hard, and its a way to keep the teams fighting. But being honest... I think even Ferrari would rather switch titles with Mclaren last yr.
#89852
Personally, I support drivers rather than teams, so I pay a lot more attention to WDC than WCC.
While the WCC takes the teams' performances as a whole into account, the WDC allows the drivers to really shine.

Whereas I am the other way round ;)


:yes: Me too.
#89857
think even Ferrari would rather switch titles with Mclaren last yr.

For some reason, Ferrari more than others seem not to really care about the constructors' title. If they get the chance to win it, they'll take it, but they wouldn't go particularly out of the way for it; i.e. maybe compromising their drivers' title bid.

Although it would not be an easy decision because of the extra prestige the drivers' title and that I see it as another prize for the whole team, I would swap the drivers' title for the constructors' title. The points table for the constructors' title is the score I look for and the constructors' title is the title I most want McLaren to win.
User avatar
By bud
#89861
Well you can also look at it this way the drivers title is a representation of the constructor and you have the best driver! while the constructor title shows you have two good drivers.
Besides all teams want the number 1 on their car and you can only get that with the drivers title
#89867
Personally, I support drivers rather than teams, so I pay a lot more attention to WDC than WCC.
While the WCC takes the teams' performances as a whole into account, the WDC allows the drivers to really shine.

Whereas I am the other way round ;)


:yes: Me too.


:D
User avatar
By EwanM
#89873
As much as the WCC is important to the ardent Formula One Fan. To many who are casual viewers, it really isn't. The media and even most of the commentary is centered around the Drivers and their "soap opera".
#89999
WDC is more important for me, more exciting-the human aspect. The drivers choose me rather than me choosing the drivers, I just find myself prefering one-hugely, generally a very talented and exciting to watch driver(Damon was the exception).
I agree the WCC is impotant to continue to provide cutting edge technology and innovation , otherwise they may as well all drive round in the same car as mosley would like.
But even Ron who lives and breathes McLaren said the WDC was the most prestigious and the one he wanted. Its still a reflection of the whole team-lewis wouldnt have won it without them.
User avatar
By Martin
#90004
Well you can also look at it this way the drivers title is a representation of the constructor and you have the best driver! while the constructor title shows you have two good drivers.
Besides all teams want the number 1 on their car and you can only get that with the drivers title



WCC is a better representation of the constructor than WDC Bud - its what WCC is for.
F1 is about team racing not individuals.
I am sure that most races are won, not by the best driver, but by the best team. If a team has the best aero / engine / chassis engineer that person can provide the team win more than the driver, but goes unrecognised.
I accept that the drivers are the public face of F1, and, therefore are important to F1 from a marketing / promotion point of view, and that casual 'supporters' often know little or nothing about the sport and support the driver most likely to win, and often change allegiance more than once in a season - very shallow. These people are attracted by the glamour / celebrity element that is a big part of the sport.
I still argue that, from a sport point of view, the WCC is considerably more important than WDC. In almost all other forms of motor racing the driver does have a more important part to play, because car specs are more tightly controlled. That's what makes F1 special. :)
User avatar
By Martin
#90005
One thing that has come to the fore in this thread is that it has become a WCC v WDC with lots of discussion about whether drivers are more important than the team. Well, the driver IS part of the team - thats all he is - part of the team. There is only 1 entity - the team.
I'll bet that if the media decided to focus on, say, the strategist, pretty soon that would be the team member with the attention and supporters, and it wouldn't be long before there was a WSC also! So its all down to the media I suppose. The media would find it too difficult to highlight the performance of the engineers and designers and managers - the driver is easy.

See our F1 related articles too!