FORUMula1.com - F1 Forum

[MCL2k6]

It was deemed an aerodynamic device because it apparently affected the pitch of the car. I really don't into that, and, even if did, other things affect the pitch of the car anyway, such as normal suspension travel.

In terms of McLaren's development, money is a factor, but a large part of it is down to the team's infrastructure. If you go onto You Tube and see tours of various teams' factories, their setup looks very amateur when compared with what happens at McLaren Technology Centre.

Yeah, indeed. Any case, the FIA was over the line with that decision... but hey! Grey areas rule in F1 technical regs.

BTW about Macca's technical knowledge, you knew this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOl_p3gyrD0
LOLz

[Denthúl]

They didn't have the budget of McLaren or Ferrari in 2005 or 2006, but they took some titles. Renault's successes are down to technical innovations and getting the things that matter most right. For example, their mass damper (which, having read up on it, I see no issue with) and excellent launch control systems gave them certain advantages over other teams. I do wonder what might have been in the past two years if the mass damper hadn't been banned. The 2007 car might have had a couple more podiums and this year's car may have had a few more wins.

In 2005 Renny got the upper hand till some point, but Maccas had a better development cycle (hence the money), so performance-wise they had the upper hand. Not reliability-wise 'though

About banning the mass damper. FIA shenanigans They said it was a movable aerodynamic device - which I didn't understand cause the stuff was inside the nosecone actually. I mean no airflow would've reached that device. But when Max says jump, everybody must jump.

It was deemed an aerodynamic device because it apparently affected the pitch of the car. I really don't into that, and, even if did, other things affect the pitch of the car anyway, such as normal suspension travel.

In terms of McLaren's development, money is a factor, but a large part of it is down to the team's infrastructure. If you go onto You Tube and see tours of various teams' factories, their setup looks very amateur when compared with what happens at McLaren Technology Centre.

If you had to categorise it, then it would fall under movable ballast, surely?

[MCL2k6]

If you had to categorise it, then it would fall under movable ballast, surely?

Yeah... actually never seen anything wrong with it! Just that some considered otherwise. Pretty confusing IMHO...

[McLaren Fan]

If you had to categorise it, then it would fall under movable ballast, surely?

Perhaps, and if it were moveable ballast it would still mean, using the FIA's theory, that it was absorbing bumps on the track, thus affecting the pitch of the car. When Renault developed the mass damper, they actually submitted the plans to the FIA, who okayed them. The politicking only began after Ferrari tried to copy the system only to find it didn't suit the Bridgestone tyres or their car's chassis.

[EwanM]

Fingers crossed we can produce a fast car out of the blocs.
We will have to see though.
We can kiss goodbye to even getting anywhere near the top 3 in a constructors fight unless Alonso has a dominating season - which won't happen either.

[scotty]

However, the Spaniard won two races near the end of the year and scored more points than any of his rivals from the Belgian Grand Prix onwards.

Interesting, i hadn't considered that (i am assuming that would include the Macca's and Ferrari's though). Not that it means much given that the same thing happened to Button in '06.... Although Alonso is on a completely different level to pretty much every other driver on the grid, all things considered.

[al4x]

i dislike the way f1 now bans innovtions

i like it that a lower budget team can [at least for a season] get an upper hand where eveyone frantically struggles to catch up

that launch control was awesome, loved watching the starts!