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[dant]

I was not saying that move on the final corner was cheating.... of course unless evidence is found to prove monies changed hands or some kind of kick backs were recieved. At this point it is all speculation and gives us something to talk about on the boards. Even though I am a long time Ferrari fan I do respect all the other teams and am looking forward to next year. Massa and Alonzo 1 and 2 for Team Ferrari?

Speculation that only Ferrari fans have.

[darwin dali]

I haven't heard much in this vein from senior members that are Ferrari supporters (not even from AKR ) - it's mostly newbies that only recently (make that today or so) signed up. I wonder what their motivation is to stir sh!t on here

[kerc]

Read my sig!

[Rorschach]

Aye, it's pathetic. I wish they could follow Massa's example and congratulate Hamilton on his victory. No need to be happy or saccharine but say fair enough and come out more determined next year.

[bud]

Aye, it's pathetic. I wish they could follow Massa's example and congratulate Hamilton on his victory. No need to be happy or saccharine but say fair enough and come out more determined next year.

the way Massa held himself post race was very admirable, he has honour

[FerrariFan63]

Had Glock stayed ahead and Felipe won, we would have seen exactly the same sour grapes from McLaren fans. I was on the chatroom during the last lap, and there was already a number of sour grapes comments by McLaren fans even before the race finished!

[Toddi]

the way Massa held himself post race was very admirable, he has honour

Sadly, he doesn't have the World Championship though

[ManCityFC]

Had Glock stayed ahead and Felipe won, we would have seen exactly the same sour grapes from McLaren fans. I was on the chatroom during the last lap, and there was already a number of sour grapes comments by McLaren fans even before the race finished!

Perhaps, but McLaren fans have far more to be bitter about this season don't they?

[big ron]

Massa and Alonzo 1 and 2 for Team Ferrari?

I thought his name was Alonso?? You must be a bigger fan than me!

[big ron]

I just dont understand how Ferrari fans can call this cheating when they did the exact same thing 2 weeks ago in China to ensure that Massa gained an extra 2 points.

I'd say what happened two weeks ago wasn't too comparable. Kimi had to slow down and follow team orders, Glock ran wide as he was on worn slicks on a wet track.

[FerrariFan63]

Perhaps, but McLaren fans have far more to be bitter about this season don't they?

So they keep telling us. Exactly how much of that is fact, and how much paranoia,is of course another question.

[bud]

Perhaps, but McLaren fans have far more to be bitter about this season don't they?

So they keep telling us. Exactly how much of that is fact, and how much paranoia,is of course another question.

yada yada yada

- can you translate this for me please youre good at that talk!!!

[FerrariFan63]

Perhaps, but McLaren fans have far more to be bitter about this season don't they?

So they keep telling us. Exactly how much of that is fact, and how much paranoia,is of course another question.

yada yada yada

- can you translate this for me please youre good at that talk!!!

Of course. Here it is translated.

Così continu aare dirci. Esattamente quanto del quel è fatto ed il quanto paranoia, è naturalmente un'altra domanda.

[bud]

mate you just played right into it

[McLaren Fan]

Well, regardless of whether the FIA are incompetent, biased or both, it doesn't matter. The fact is that, for one of those reasons, McLaren and Hamilton were royally shafted out of anything from fourteen to seventeen points (depending upon how you count them etc.), so the only just result this season was for Hamilton to be drivers' champion. Even with the penalties, though, Ferrari would still have won the constructors' title, and McLaren supporters on here have congratulated them for that achievement. That doesn't sound like sour grapes. This season, in the end, therefore, justice prevailed, unlike previous seasons.