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By McLaren Fan
#69593
Apparently Sato has been setting competitive times in the Toro Rosso, and when you couple that to the stacks of Japanese sponsor money that he's likely to bring to the team, he must look a very attractive proposition to them...

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By 8-ball
#69600
The more I look at the results, the more I see that Nick Heidfeld deserves his seat for next season. Though Kubica is ahead on points and has scored in all but one of the races he's finished, he has retired twice and isn't actually that far ahead, points-wise. Nick is only eight points behind Robert now and has finished every race of the season so far - the only driver to have done so. He's had a few no-scores, yes, but he's also managed to pull off four second place finishes and displayed some excellent driving at Silverstone where not only was he one of only two people to finish on the same lap as Hamilton but he also pulled off two great double-passing moves. He's consistent (alright, not so much this season, but the car is more suited to the guy driving the sister car than himself) and can be trusted to bring the car home in one piece. He's also had some bad luck this season, without which he may be almost equal with Kubica anyway - Alonso tagging him in Monaco and the stop-and-go for refuelling under the safety car are two notable incidents that have cost him.

Theissen would be mad to drop Heidfeld, since he's a good pairing with Kubica and, with a car better-suited to his style, could do well in aiding BMW Sauber to a constructors' title next year and maybe even the WDC, too.

I agree. When you beyond all the moaning about his qualifying performances, Heidfeld has been quietly doing a good job. I think it's worth trying to sort out his qualifying problems and/or seeing how he does with the car next season before binning him. If I were running BMW, I would offer him a performance-based contract next year. Give him half a dozen races and see what he does with the new car.


The BMW team should be building itself around Kubica. He is younger, faster and is definitely a future champion if the BMW is up to speed. Heidfeld is consistent yes, consistently off the podium. But I agree that BMW should keep him he is experienced and is a valuable testing asset. When it comes to race day focus should be on Kubica
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By Denthúl
#69602
The more I look at the results, the more I see that Nick Heidfeld deserves his seat for next season. Though Kubica is ahead on points and has scored in all but one of the races he's finished, he has retired twice and isn't actually that far ahead, points-wise. Nick is only eight points behind Robert now and has finished every race of the season so far - the only driver to have done so. He's had a few no-scores, yes, but he's also managed to pull off four second place finishes and displayed some excellent driving at Silverstone where not only was he one of only two people to finish on the same lap as Hamilton but he also pulled off two great double-passing moves. He's consistent (alright, not so much this season, but the car is more suited to the guy driving the sister car than himself) and can be trusted to bring the car home in one piece. He's also had some bad luck this season, without which he may be almost equal with Kubica anyway - Alonso tagging him in Monaco and the stop-and-go for refuelling under the safety car are two notable incidents that have cost him.

Theissen would be mad to drop Heidfeld, since he's a good pairing with Kubica and, with a car better-suited to his style, could do well in aiding BMW Sauber to a constructors' title next year and maybe even the WDC, too.

I agree. When you beyond all the moaning about his qualifying performances, Heidfeld has been quietly doing a good job. I think it's worth trying to sort out his qualifying problems and/or seeing how he does with the car next season before binning him. If I were running BMW, I would offer him a performance-based contract next year. Give him half a dozen races and see what he does with the new car.


The BMW team should be building itself around Kubica. He is younger, faster and is definitely a future champion if the BMW is up to speed. Heidfeld is consistent yes, consistently off the podium. But I agree that BMW should keep him he is experienced and is a valuable testing asset. When it comes to race day focus should be on Kubica


I disagree. BMW Sauber need both drivers to be up at the front of the field. With Kubica having a very aggressive driving style and Heidfeld having a smoother, more conservative style, they need to focus on making a car that suits both drivers well-enough. After all, Kubica is faster, but with a good car, Heidfeld is far more consistent and has found himself on the podium plenty of times over the past couple of years. Everybody fails to realise how many second-place finishes he has scored this year and just how many points he recorded last. BMW Sauber need him if they want to win the WCC.
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By 8-ball
#69603
The more I look at the results, the more I see that Nick Heidfeld deserves his seat for next season. Though Kubica is ahead on points and has scored in all but one of the races he's finished, he has retired twice and isn't actually that far ahead, points-wise. Nick is only eight points behind Robert now and has finished every race of the season so far - the only driver to have done so. He's had a few no-scores, yes, but he's also managed to pull off four second place finishes and displayed some excellent driving at Silverstone where not only was he one of only two people to finish on the same lap as Hamilton but he also pulled off two great double-passing moves. He's consistent (alright, not so much this season, but the car is more suited to the guy driving the sister car than himself) and can be trusted to bring the car home in one piece. He's also had some bad luck this season, without which he may be almost equal with Kubica anyway - Alonso tagging him in Monaco and the stop-and-go for refuelling under the safety car are two notable incidents that have cost him.

Theissen would be mad to drop Heidfeld, since he's a good pairing with Kubica and, with a car better-suited to his style, could do well in aiding BMW Sauber to a constructors' title next year and maybe even the WDC, too.

I agree. When you beyond all the moaning about his qualifying performances, Heidfeld has been quietly doing a good job. I think it's worth trying to sort out his qualifying problems and/or seeing how he does with the car next season before binning him. If I were running BMW, I would offer him a performance-based contract next year. Give him half a dozen races and see what he does with the new car.


The BMW team should be building itself around Kubica. He is younger, faster and is definitely a future champion if the BMW is up to speed. Heidfeld is consistent yes, consistently off the podium. But I agree that BMW should keep him he is experienced and is a valuable testing asset. When it comes to race day focus should be on Kubica


I disagree. BMW Sauber need both drivers to be up at the front of the field. With Kubica having a very aggressive driving style and Heidfeld having a smoother, more conservative style, they need to focus on making a car that suits both drivers well-enough. After all, Kubica is faster, but with a good car, Heidfeld is far more consistent and has found himself on the podium plenty of times over the past couple of years. Everybody fails to realise how many second-place finishes he has scored this year and just how many points he recorded last. BMW Sauber need him if they want to win the WCC.


They have a much better chance of winning the WDC because Heidfeld's weakness is in qualifying. In a well balanced car to suit both driving styles I think Kubica would out qualify him on most days and with the Ferrari's and Lewis in the mix Heidfeld will not be getting many (if any) pole positions whereas Kubica would be the one mixing it up in front of the grid. I agree to win the WCC Heidfeld will be needed but in a car where Kubica can consistently be at the near the front on every track that is where they have the best chance for success
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By 7UpJordan
#69650
Apparently Sato has been setting competitive times in the Toro Rosso, and when you couple that to the stacks of Japanese sponsor money that he's likely to bring to the team, he must look a very attractive proposition to them...

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Don't forget this Tex ;)

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No disrespect to Sato but Senna has more talent in his index finger than him.

At this rate I think this is going to come down to a testing day shootout between Sato, Buemi and Senna.
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By woody2goody
#69658
The more I look at the results, the more I see that Nick Heidfeld deserves his seat for next season. Though Kubica is ahead on points and has scored in all but one of the races he's finished, he has retired twice and isn't actually that far ahead, points-wise. Nick is only eight points behind Robert now and has finished every race of the season so far - the only driver to have done so. He's had a few no-scores, yes, but he's also managed to pull off four second place finishes and displayed some excellent driving at Silverstone where not only was he one of only two people to finish on the same lap as Hamilton but he also pulled off two great double-passing moves. He's consistent (alright, not so much this season, but the car is more suited to the guy driving the sister car than himself) and can be trusted to bring the car home in one piece. He's also had some bad luck this season, without which he may be almost equal with Kubica anyway - Alonso tagging him in Monaco and the stop-and-go for refuelling under the safety car are two notable incidents that have cost him.

Theissen would be mad to drop Heidfeld, since he's a good pairing with Kubica and, with a car better-suited to his style, could do well in aiding BMW Sauber to a constructors' title next year and maybe even the WDC, too.


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By woody2goody
#69659
Last season though Heidfeld outqualified Kubica 12-4. It's definitely tyre-related this year.

Nick is a match for Robert, and if you look at some of the earlier races this year, Nick qualified 5 or so places behind Robert, and was either in front of him or right up his arse at the end.

They're both great and both should be retained for next year. Let's not forget, due to Nick's points in Singapore, it's still possible for them to win the WCC this year! I suppose Kubica and Nick can still mathematically win the world drivers championship this year too, I mean they're only as far back as Kimi was last year with one race less to go. And this has been a crazy season. Anything can happen considering we're now off to three tracks with a history of mucho dampness :)
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By Hanwombat
#69671
Last season though Heidfeld outqualified Kubica 12-4. It's definitely tyre-related this year.

Nick is a match for Robert, and if you look at some of the earlier races this year, Nick qualified 5 or so places behind Robert, and was either in front of him or right up his arse at the end.

They're both great and both should be retained for next year. Let's not forget, due to Nick's points in Singapore, it's still possible for them to win the WCC this year! I suppose Kubica and Nick can still mathematically win the world drivers championship this year too, I mean they're only as far back as Kimi was last year with one race less to go. And this has been a crazy season. Anything can happen considering we're now off to three tracks with a history of mucho dampness :)


Cpmpletely agree, Nick so should remain at BMW, I t hink they both make great tema players
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By McLaren Fan
#69675
If Renault are stuck for a driver next season, they can always have Kovalainen, free of charge, of course. He did well with them in 2007.
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By Hanwombat
#69677
If Renault are stuck for a driver next season, they can always have Kovalainen, free of charge, of course. He did well with them in 2007.

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If only i wasnt durnk :hehe:
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By McLaren Fan
#69686
If Renault are stuck for a driver next season, they can always have Kovalainen, free of charge, of course. He did well with them in 2007.

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If only i wasnt durnk :hehe:

I thought that you had forsaken Heikki. :getout:
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By Hanwombat
#69689
If Renault are stuck for a driver next season, they can always have Kovalainen, free of charge, of course. He did well with them in 2007.

:(


If only i wasnt durnk :hehe:

I thought that you had forsaken Heikki. :getout:


I just dont know :whip::nono::hehe:
By f1 shoemaker
#69711
Id like to see Christian Klien come back and to race for Toro Rosso. I dont know why but i always liked the guy thought he was interesting to watch for some reason.

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