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[texasmr2]

I can see humour in that video but I see and percieve alot of other thing's from it that are not quite appropriate for such a 'non-biased' forum, am I wrong?

[onelapdown]

yeah, those giraffes are well out of order...

[texasmr2]

yeah, those giraffes are well out of order...

The giraffe's get me everytime.

[McLaren Fan]

yeah, those giraffes are well out of order...

The giraffe's get me everytime.

Closely seconded by the zebra.

[Mikep99]

[stonemonkey]

However, manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers such as premature changes of direction, more than one change of direction, deliberate crowding of cars towards the inside or the outside of the curve or any other abnormal change of direction, are strictly prohibited and shall be penalised, according to the importance and repetition of the offences, by penalties ranging from a fine to the exclusion from the race.

I'm a bit confused about this bit:
'deliberate crowding of cars towards the inside or the outside of the curve'

If it means what it appears to me to mean then it's a rule that's broken in just about every race.

Can anyone explain what it actually means?

[McLaren Fan]

However, manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers such as premature changes of direction, more than one change of direction, deliberate crowding of cars towards the inside or the outside of the curve or any other abnormal change of direction, are strictly prohibited and shall be penalised, according to the importance and repetition of the offences, by penalties ranging from a fine to the exclusion from the race.

I'm a bit confused about this bit:
'deliberate crowding of cars towards the inside or the outside of the curve'

If it means what it appears to me to mean then it's a rule that's broken in just about every race.

Can anyone explain what it actually means?

I think it's to do with weaving from side to side across the track and forcing other drivers off it, but I'm not certain.

[stonemonkey]

However, manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers such as premature changes of direction, more than one change of direction, deliberate crowding of cars towards the inside or the outside of the curve or any other abnormal change of direction, are strictly prohibited and shall be penalised, according to the importance and repetition of the offences, by penalties ranging from a fine to the exclusion from the race.

I'm a bit confused about this bit:
'deliberate crowding of cars towards the inside or the outside of the curve'

If it means what it appears to me to mean then it's a rule that's broken in just about every race.

Can anyone explain what it actually means?

I think it's to do with weaving from side to side across the track and forcing other drivers off it, but I'm not certain.

I'm pretty sure it's not weaving which might come under 'other abnormal change of direction'. To me it looks like you're not allowed to squeeze someone off the track even if you're on the racing line, as I said if that's what it is then probably every driver has done that without penalty, Lewis to Massa in Germany for example which would mean that in this case Lewis was reacting to Kimi breaking a rule that a blind eye is normally turned to and getting penalised for it. I really don't know though and would like an explanation of what exactly that rule means.

[onelapdown]

I'm also intrigued by:

f) The repetition of serious mistakes or the appearance of a lack of control over the car (such as leaving the track) may entail the exclusion of the drivers concerned.

I mean, if that didn't apply to Massa at Silverstone, when does it apply?

[stonemonkey]

I'm also intrigued by:

f) The repetition of serious mistakes or the appearance of a lack of control over the car (such as leaving the track) may entail the exclusion of the drivers concerned.

I mean, if that didn't apply to Massa at Silverstone, when does it apply?

Massa might've been quite relieved if that had been enforced.

[McLaren Fan]

Some of these rules are insane. I mean, there's nothing wrong with a bit of weaving, in my opinion, but not being able to hold your line or make somebody back off is a part of racing. I never knew there was a rule against it!

The more you read these rules, the more you worry. A lot of these things are not enforced, hell I didn't even know there were rules governing them (and that probably goes for the drivers and teams too!), so it means you can trump up a charge against a driver for almost anything.

[billyboblee]

Cool, ANY car goes off the track for ANY reason (late breaking, forced... etc) will be given one of the penalties. That should help with lack of overtaking in the sport (Makes me wonder why this rule is not enforced more often)

[7UpJordan]

Some of these rules are insane.

Indeed, what's next, drivers getting black flagged/penalised for wearing the wrong coloured underwear?

[billindenver]

Some of these rules are insane. I mean, there's nothing wrong with a bit of weaving, in my opinion, but not being able to hold your line or make somebody back off is a part of racing. I never knew there was a rule against it!

The more you read these rules, the more you worry. A lot of these things are not enforced, hell I didn't even know there were rules governing them (and that probably goes for the drivers and teams too!), so it means you can trump up a charge against a driver for almost anything.

Seriously? You didn't know there were rules against weaving and blocking? Every form of racing on this planet from F1, through sports cars, down to wheelchair racing has a problem with deliberate and intentional blocking. Racing is not meant to be bumper cars down at the local fairground and if you let blocking occur it will advance into bodywork warfare...and then the racing part of it goes away. Intentional blocking, weaving and stopping a clearly faster car and/or driver from making a legit pass is poor racing (not to mention dangerous) and that is why it is penalized in every form or real racing all the way down to amateur SCCA. I'm not saying anyone did that this race, I'm only responding to your having no idea these things are governed over. Yes, they are. Everywhere. Thank God.

With that said, the FIA does a pretty half bottom job of wording their rules and an even more half bottom job of enforcing them.

**edit** - I did not type "bottom"...LOL, but it's funny so I'm going to let the filter have it's way with me.

[onelapdown]

I'm intrigued by this one:

30.6 The organiser must make at least two fire extinguishers of 5kg capacity available to each competitor and ensure that they work properly.

Do they have to carry this in the cockpit with them?