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[Rivelution]

Also Rivelution... loving the classic Target Chip Ganassi CART pic!

Ahh yes man I grew up loving that car( I started watching CART before F1). It always was my favorite and I remember dreaming about driving that car when I grow up, but then the series folded and in 2002 they adopted the boring livery they have now. I think I have some pictures of me when I was little next to a Target/Ganassi car.

[EwanM]

Also Rivelution... loving the classic Target Chip Ganassi CART pic!

Ahh yes man I grew up loving that car( I started watching CART before F1). It always was my favorite and I remember dreaming about driving that car when I grow up, but then the series folded and in 2002 they adopted the boring livery they have now. I think I have some pictures of me when I was little next to a Target/Ganassi car.

I really miss cart.
I mean, I have strong memories of De Ferran V Brack.
Zanardi screwing over Herta again and again
Franchitti V Montoya.
So good.

[Rivelution]

Also Rivelution... loving the classic Target Chip Ganassi CART pic!

Ahh yes man I grew up loving that car( I started watching CART before F1). It always was my favorite and I remember dreaming about driving that car when I grow up, but then the series folded and in 2002 they adopted the boring livery they have now. I think I have some pictures of me when I was little next to a Target/Ganassi car.

I really miss cart.
I mean, I have strong memories of De Ferran V Brack.
Zanardi screwing over Herta again and again
Franchitti V Montoya.
So good.

You can say that again. The 1998 Long Beach GP is the best race I've ever seen, man that was an exciting race and a lot of races was like that. CART had huge grids, great drivers, great sponsors, great chassis', great engines, great fans, great tracks, and edge of your seat racing. God it makes me shake my head in disgust to look at what it is now.

[EwanM]

Also Rivelution... loving the classic Target Chip Ganassi CART pic!

Ahh yes man I grew up loving that car( I started watching CART before F1). It always was my favorite and I remember dreaming about driving that car when I grow up, but then the series folded and in 2002 they adopted the boring livery they have now. I think I have some pictures of me when I was little next to a Target/Ganassi car.

I really miss cart.
I mean, I have strong memories of De Ferran V Brack.
Zanardi screwing over Herta again and again
Franchitti V Montoya.
So good.

You can say that again. The 1998 Long Beach GP is the best race I've ever seen, man that was an exciting race and a lot of races was like that. CART had huge grids, great drivers, great sponsors, great chassis', great engines, great fans, great tracks, and edge of your seat racing. God it makes me shake my head in disgust to look at what it is now.

Long Beach 1998 really was up there as one of the great races, from any series no question.
To focus back on 1999 however... lol though I loved CART

[Rivelution]

To focus back on 1999 however... lol though I loved CART

[EwanM]

To focus back on 1999 however... lol though I loved CART

LMAO I mean 2009.

[Rivelution]

Yeah thats what I thought lol

[7UpJordan]

To focus back on 1999 however... lol though I loved CART

LMAO I mean 2009.

I can't believe how long ago 1999 was now...

[EwanM]

To focus back on 1999 however... lol though I loved CART

LMAO I mean 2009.

I can't believe how long ago 1999 was now...

I know :S
Man, that's scary

[bud]

To focus back on 1999 however... lol though I loved CART

LMAO I mean 2009.

I can't believe how long ago 1999 was now...

I know :S
Man, that's scary

i know its scary when you say... "those were the days" or "when i was young" and im only 28, what will i be saying in another ten years

[Hanwombat]

To focus back on 1999 however... lol though I loved CART

LMAO I mean 2009.

I can't believe how long ago 1999 was now...

I know :S
Man, that's scary

i know its scary when you say... "those were the days" or "when i was young" and im only 28, what will i be saying in another ten years

I was only 11 CRAPP

[Martin]

BMW Sauber
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It seems that BMW do not agree with you:-

Team principal Mario Theissen has insisted BMW Sauber will not be abandoning 2008 development work, despite their recent dip in form that saw them score just a single point in Sunday’s Hungarian Grand Prix, dropping them into third place in the constructors’ standings for the first time this season.

Theissen admitted he was mystified by the F1.08s lack of race pace in Budapest, where neither Robert Kubica, who finished eighth having started fourth, nor Nick Heidfeld, who came home 10th, were able to clock the lap times the team had predicted - on either Bridgestone tyre compound.

“The Hungarian GP turned out to be a race we virtually weren't involved in,” Theissen told the official BMW Sauber website. “We have not yet detected the reasons but we will analyse what happened. To do so, we will take a close look at the interplay of car, tyres, track conditions and temperatures. This analysis will be carried out at home in Munich and Hinwil, as we aren't allowed to go testing due to the testing ban prior to the next race.”

BMW Sauber’s excellent performances earlier in the season, including their maiden win and one-two finish in Canada, mean they are almost certain to finish at least third in the championship, as they are currently 55 points clear of fourth-placed Toyota.

With such a secure position in the standings, the German-Swiss team could be forgiven for switching their development efforts exclusively to their 2009 machine, but Theissen is adamant they will not throw in the towel on 2008 just yet.

“We won't reduce our development pace for the remainder of the season,” he continued. “Our goal for the remaining three European rounds and four overseas races is to build on the good results scored in the first half of the season. We still have several improvements in the pipeline that should help us return to the road to success.”

BMW Sauber now trail McLaren by 10 points in the standings, with leaders Ferrari a further 11 points ahead.

[przemo]

BMW is not giving up, they just had a bad race at Hungary.

Team principal Mario Theissen has insisted BMW Sauber will not be abandoning 2008 development work, despite their recent dip in form that saw them score just a single point in Sunday’s Hungarian Grand Prix, dropping them into third place in the constructors’ standings for the first time this season.

Theissen admitted he was mystified by the F1.08s lack of race pace in Budapest, where neither Robert Kubica, who finished eighth having started fourth, nor Nick Heidfeld, who came home 10th, were able to clock the lap times the team had predicted - on either Bridgestone tyre compound.

“The Hungarian GP turned out to be a race we virtually weren't involved in,” Theissen told the official BMW Sauber website. “We have not yet detected the reasons but we will analyse what happened. To do so, we will take a close look at the interplay of car, tyres, track conditions and temperatures. This analysis will be carried out at home in Munich and Hinwil, as we aren't allowed to go testing due to the testing ban prior to the next race.”

BMW Sauber’s excellent performances earlier in the season, including their maiden win and one-two finish in Canada, mean they are almost certain to finish at least third in the championship, as they are currently 55 points clear of fourth-placed Toyota.

With such a secure position in the standings, the German-Swiss team could be forgiven for switching their development efforts exclusively to their 2009 machine, but Theissen is adamant they will not throw in the towel on 2008 just yet.

“We won't reduce our development pace for the remainder of the season,” he continued. “Our goal for the remaining three European rounds and four overseas races is to build on the good results scored in the first half of the season. We still have several improvements in the pipeline that should help us return to the road to success.”

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/8/8203.html

I stand corrected after stating just the opposite in another thread, but I'm also curious what cards does dr Mario have left in his hand, because he said "several" .

[headless]

I thought Williams must have because they have been absent really all year.

[McLaren Fan]

From autosport.com:

Williams not writing off season

By Jonathan Noble Friday, August 8th 2008, 12:48 GMT

Frank Williams has ruled out any suggestion of his team writing off this season so they can focus their efforts entirely on 2009 instead.

Although Williams have suffered a disappointing dip in their performance recently after a strong start to the campaign, the Grove-based outfit are to maintain an even balance between work on this year's car and next year's.

This approach is in stark contract to their nearest championship rivals Honda Racing, who made a decision early in the year to focus as much of their efforts onto the 2009 machine as they could.

Speaking about the split of resources, Williams said: "We are here to race every race, not half a year. We are running two separate programmes - one (on the current car) with far more resources presently than the other."

Williams revealed that the team's ability to keep working on their 2008 machine was helped by the fact that they began work on next year's challenger very early.

"We started the mechanical design of next year's car quite a while ago , and we started the aero work with a small group last October/November," he said.

"Right now, as has always been the case, we have more people on the racing car presently racing than the new car because we started early. So the pressure isn't on to put a massive effort onto that (2009) car."