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#53650
Patrick Head, co-owner of the Williams team, says he would rather have the scandal-ridden Max Mosley as FIA President than Jean Todt.

"Our view is that Max, sometimes with our resistance, has done a number of things in recent years which have been good for this company," he told The Independent.

"It is not in our interests to undermine Max, especially in the light of threats of him being replaced by Jean Todt.
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There's your answer. Head doesn't want Todt because Max has given Williams help of some sort. So no wish for the best man for the job, just anyone who will help out Williams, and I'd guess, the British teams.
#53651
Patrick Head, co-owner of the Williams team, says he would rather have the scandal-ridden Max Mosley as FIA President than Jean Todt.

"Our view is that Max, sometimes with our resistance, has done a number of things in recent years which have been good for this company," he told The Independent.

"It is not in our interests to undermine Max, especially in the light of threats of him being replaced by Jean Todt.
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There's your answer. Head doesn't want Todt because Max has given Williams help of some sort. So no wish for the best man for the job, just anyone who will help out Williams, and I'd guess, the British teams.


yet no doubt you feel Todt is the man for the job even though he would only care about Ferrari.... mate stop digging holes for yourself your not getting off to a good start here.. :rofl:
#53655
yet no doubt you feel Todt is the man for the job even though he would only care about Ferrari.... mate stop digging holes for yourself your not getting off to a good start here.. :rofl:


You claim that he would only care about Ferrari. I believe that he cares more about Formula one, and has more relevant experience, than any potential alternative candidate.

And as for getting off to a good start, I care more about truth than popularity.
#53657
i wasnt implying you being popular or not, i couldnt care if you were worshipped like the pope on here, more about how youre stating hypocritical ferrari lamb bullpoo isnt getting you off to a good start :irked::rofl:
#53661
i think pretty much any sane and fair person even most ferrari fans would see this as bad

only a :sheep: would think its a good idea!

:thumbdown:


Generally I like to support my arguments with reasoned fact, not simple name-calling.

Just to prove my objectivity, I would much prefer Todt for the job over Schumi himself. As while Schumi has considerable experience and background for the job, Todt has more of the right type of experience, including having worked in a wider variety of motorsports.

Choosing Todt would cause significant dissent in the wrong places (tabloids and the less serious fans of certain teams). But I believe that in the long run it is better to choose the best man for the job, not the easiest choice.
#53706
i wasnt implying you being popular or not, i couldnt care if you were worshipped like the pope on here, more about how youre stating hypocritical ferrari lamb bullpoo isnt getting you off to a good start :irked::rofl:


I would be more impressed if you could propose solid arguments to counter what I say, than if you just call my posts "hypocritical ferrari lamb bullpoo" with no reasoning or justification. Yawn.
#53743
just couldnt trust todt, he also looks like the park paedo :lurker:


The FIA has a long history of working with Todt, which will allow them to base their decision on far more reliable evidence.


Todt has the experience but the overriding factor was that he was principal of Ferrari for over 10 years. You think he would hand out a $50 million fine to Ferrari when they break the rules? How do you think that would go down at the next Fiat board meeting? Todt has an conflicting interest and any idiot can see it and that is why he should not be president
#53746
Todt has the experience but the overriding factor was that he was principal of Ferrari for over 10 years. You think he would hand out a $50 million fine to Ferrari when they break the rules? How do you think that would go down at the next Fiat board meeting? Todt has an conflicting interest and any idiot can see it and that is why he should not be president


Todt should not be FIA president unless he breaks his ties with Ferrari. I believe that this would be exactly what would happen if Todt was to be appointed president. Instant lack of conflicting interest. If he is no longer working for Ferrari, but for the FIA, then yes, I think he could hand out a $50 million fine to Ferrari.

If they appointed Todt president while he was still working for Ferrari, I'd agree with the criticisms. But I cannot see this happening.
#53764
Just to prove my objectivity, I would much prefer Todt for the job over Schumi himself. As while Schumi has considerable experience and background for the job, Todt has more of the right type of experience, including having worked in a wider variety of motorsports.

Schumacher is a Ferrari man himself. It's like saying you can have a choice between Hitler and Göering. Impartial my backside. :banghead:
Todt has the experience but the overriding factor was that he was principal of Ferrari for over 10 years. You think he would hand out a $50 million fine to Ferrari when they break the rules? How do you think that would go down at the next Fiat board meeting? Todt has an conflicting interest and any idiot can see it and that is why he should not be president


Todt should not be FIA president unless he breaks his ties with Ferrari. I believe that this would be exactly what would happen if Todt was to be appointed president. Instant lack of conflicting interest. If he is no longer working for Ferrari, but for the FIA, then yes, I think he could hand out a $50 million fine to Ferrari.

If they appointed Todt president while he was still working for Ferrari, I'd agree with the criticisms. But I cannot see this happening.

Todt has declared himself a Tifosi for life, and that's how everybody in Formula One and Ferrari see him. He is not and will not ever be suitable for the job.

Finally, the reasons that people don't respond to your replies as you would like is: a) you are completely biased towards anything pertaining to Ferrari; (b) the arguments you are trying to whip up have been debated God knows how many times on this forum. Personally, I would rather move on.; (c) I'm ill at the moment and dismantle your arguments as fluently as I would like; and (d) I'm not completely sure it's worth the effort, for you'll never listen to reason and admit the flaws in your team.
#53775
Todt has declared himself a Tifosi for life, and that's how everybody in Formula One and Ferrari see him. He is not and will not ever be suitable for the job.


A "Tifosi" is a fan, not a contracted position. People who are competent at their jobs, particularly those in governing, legal, and pseudo legal positions should be able to put aside their personal preferences, and govern/judge/whatever fairly. People may be prejudiced against him because they believe that he cannot make this distinction. But his abstention from the vote on McLaren's penalty, when it would be in Ferrari's interest to have McLaren penalised, is evidence that he can do this.

People such as yourself may not like it if Todt is appointed. Neither may people such as Ron Dennis and Patrick Head. But if he's the best person for the job, and the FIA believes this, and he's prepared to quit any position at Ferrari, then they should go ahead and appoint him.

Finally, the reasons that people don't respond to your replies as you would like is: a) you are completely biased towards anything pertaining to Ferrari; (b) the arguments you are trying to whip up have been debated God knows how many times on this forum. Personally, I would rather move on.; (c) I'm ill at the moment and dismantle your arguments as fluently as I would like; and (d) I'm not completely sure it's worth the effort, for you'll never listen to reason and admit the flaws in your team.


Oh really? I'm quite happy to debate points with people, accept where proper arguments have been made, and respond to them. But I expect quality argument. If you're ill at the moment, that could explain the superficiality of your arguments. For example, I've mentioned time and time again today that Ferrari f'd up this weekend. It wasn't just bad luck, they f'd up. And I've said that they would have done better if Schumi had been driving for them, criticising their drivers. But you then say "[I'll] never listen to reason and admit the flaws in [my] team." How do you work that one out?
#53843
Todt has declared himself a Tifosi for life, and that's how everybody in Formula One and Ferrari see him. He is not and will not ever be suitable for the job.


A "Tifosi" is a fan, not a contracted position. People who are competent at their jobs, particularly those in governing, legal, and pseudo legal positions should be able to put aside their personal preferences, and govern/judge/whatever fairly. People may be prejudiced against him because they believe that he cannot make this distinction. But his abstention from the vote on McLaren's penalty, when it would be in Ferrari's interest to have McLaren penalised, is evidence that he can do this.

People such as yourself may not like it if Todt is appointed. Neither may people such as Ron Dennis and Patrick Head. But if he's the best person for the job, and the FIA believes this, and he's prepared to quit any position at Ferrari, then they should go ahead and appoint him.

Finally, the reasons that people don't respond to your replies as you would like is: a) you are completely biased towards anything pertaining to Ferrari; (b) the arguments you are trying to whip up have been debated God knows how many times on this forum. Personally, I would rather move on.; (c) I'm ill at the moment and dismantle your arguments as fluently as I would like; and (d) I'm not completely sure it's worth the effort, for you'll never listen to reason and admit the flaws in your team.


Oh really? I'm quite happy to debate points with people, accept where proper arguments have been made, and respond to them. But I expect quality argument. If you're ill at the moment, that could explain the superficiality of your arguments. For example, I've mentioned time and time again today that Ferrari f'd up this weekend. It wasn't just bad luck, they f'd up. And I've said that they would have done better if Schumi had been driving for them, criticising their drivers. But you then say "[I'll] never listen to reason and admit the flaws in [my] team." How do you work that one out?


You seem to have this thing about Todt guess what HE IS NOT GOD his biggest acheivement at ferrrari was poaching the benetton technical team to follow shumacher to Ferrari.
I personally dont belive that anyone who has been involved in ANY F1 team in the past couple of years should run the FIA, why not get somone who is completly detached from the sport ? wouldnt that be the better way rathar than having some one who wil have preformed opinions on technical matters, teams and personall etc.
Patrick head is probably right Ferrarifan and you need to learn to look at the situations you are trying to argue from all pov and take off those rose tinted glasses

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