BBC report that Renault have escaped punishment

#26266

By racechick - 06 Dec 07, 19:36

- 06 Dec 07, 19:36#26266

Ive just been trying to find the FIA email address to send them a stinky pooey email but its not on their website. Bet they darent put it on. If anyone has it let me know. Im in fighting mood.

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#26268

By 7UpJordan - 06 Dec 07, 19:38

- 06 Dec 07, 19:38#26268

Ive just been trying to find the FIA email address to send them a stinky pooey email but its not on their website. Bet they darent put it on. If anyone has it let me know. Im in fighting mood.

[email protected]

Try that... it's only a guess mind.

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#26270

By Stephen - 06 Dec 07, 19:40

- 06 Dec 07, 19:40#26270

Don't forget our own F1 news!

http://www.forumula1.com/2007/f1/f1-new ... unishment/

#26272

By racechick - 06 Dec 07, 19:41

- 06 Dec 07, 19:41#26272

mmm worth a shot :twisted:

thanks

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Abe Lincoln

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#26276

By al4x - 06 Dec 07, 20:28

- 06 Dec 07, 20:28#26276

i think what mclaren had was worse than renault!

#26277

By certom - 06 Dec 07, 20:28

- 06 Dec 07, 20:28#26277

no one is saying that Mcl should be penalized becuase they let the files go out of the factory?! the same thing that someone said of Ferrari...

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#26281

By Ragnar - 06 Dec 07, 20:37

- 06 Dec 07, 20:37#26281

In all fairness to the FIA this is exactly what they did to McLaren at first. It was not until they went BACK in front of the FIA that they were hit with the big fine.

If anything else were to come out from Renault (new evidence) then they would clearly have to be hit hard. McLaren would have escaped penalty had they shown the FIA everything in the first hearing.

#26285

By al4x - 06 Dec 07, 20:46

- 06 Dec 07, 20:46#26285

In all fairness to the FIA this is exactly what they did to McLaren at first. It was not until they went BACK in front of the FIA that they were hit with the big fine.

If anything else were to come out from Renault (new evidence) then they would clearly have to be hit hard. McLaren would have escaped penalty had they shown the FIA everything in the first hearing.

i agree with you, too many mclaren fans here! lol

#26286

By Ragnar - 06 Dec 07, 20:52

- 06 Dec 07, 20:52#26286

In all fairness to the FIA this is exactly what they did to McLaren at first. It was not until they went BACK in front of the FIA that they were hit with the big fine.

If anything else were to come out from Renault (new evidence) then they would clearly have to be hit hard. McLaren would have escaped penalty had they shown the FIA everything in the first hearing.

i agree with you, too many mclaren fans here! lol

I have no objection to McLaren. When they teamed up Kimi and Montoya they became my favorite team for a while. The three point star in my driveway is mostly because of McLaren. But I have to be a realist and the fact is that this is not as big of a travesty as some in here are making it out to be.

#26287

By McLaren Fan - 06 Dec 07, 20:59

- 06 Dec 07, 20:59#26287

It doesn't look so much of a travesty because the way the landscape was. Despite there being more evidence against Renault than what there was against McLaren, the FIA can still point to x, y and z, so it looks as though they're being consistent in their verdicts and have no issues with McLaren or Ron Dennis.

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#26289

By Freddie - 06 Dec 07, 21:08

- 06 Dec 07, 21:08#26289

The FIA sucks !

A bunch of old corrupt double-standard farts ! with absolutely no consistency

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#26290

By sidepodcast - 06 Dec 07, 21:15

- 06 Dec 07, 21:15#26290

with absolutely no consistency

that's not fair, they've always been 'anti-mclaren'.

#26294

By Mikep99 - 06 Dec 07, 21:42

- 06 Dec 07, 21:42#26294

If they were found guilty they should be punished just like McLaren were no question about it.
Will be interested to see the reason for the decision.

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#26296

By al4x - 06 Dec 07, 21:50

- 06 Dec 07, 21:50#26296

i think mclaren exaggerating was thier biggest mistake

i expect the contents were not so significant

im so glad about the verdict!

#26297

By grumpyoldman - 06 Dec 07, 22:09

- 06 Dec 07, 22:09#26297

I think the decision is somewhere consistant with the WMSC part 1 decision McLaren received. But I also think that original decision was wrong. You can't rob a bank and only be punished for benefitting from spending the cash! The regulations are clear and McLaren should have been punished at WMSC part 1; because the FIA chose not to they set a precedent which they have followed.

What is sad for F1 is that we now have a situation where it is deemed acceptable to be in possession of competitors information as long as it cannot be proven that you have benefitted from it.

Having said all that, I think it is dangerous to compare both cases as there are similarities and differences, it is only fair to see what he full transcript reveals tomorrow.

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