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#22344
I think Nico is better than Hamilton.

Will Hamilton react to Nico the way that Alonso reacted to Hamilton? Nico has been fighting the BMW's when his car was only good enough to fight with the Renault's. I just think Nico in the McLaren will be faster than Hamilton.


I think Nico is great.. but not quite as great as Lewis. Nico's dad(and manager) thinks similarly and has striven to keep them apart for most of the previous formulae. Would be a great pairing tho! :lol:
By Mikep99
#22357
I would love to see that too. But unless it happens our view’s are just opinions, speculation, assumption or bias & don’t hold anymore value than the other persons.
From 2007 we can see that Hamilton is a very good driver IN the best car (debatable but the most reliable for sure).
He has still some learning to do otherwise he would have won the WDC a few races ago, but if he has the right car under him he will be a WDC soon & maybe many times.

The only think wrong with him I see is his head.
I am sure his helmets are made special to order from Image

Once he wins a WDC or two he will have to step up and shop at
Image

:wink: Just my opinion
#22378
I think Nico is better than Hamilton.

Will Hamilton react to Nico the way that Alonso reacted to Hamilton? Nico has been fighting the BMW's when his car was only good enough to fight with the Renault's. I just think Nico in the McLaren will be faster than Hamilton.


Or...will Hamilton react as he (maybe) did with FA..? Like, making Nico unwelcome? Turning whole team on his side (being Britton and all that?). If he was acting (and he WAS) like he IS McLaren in his rookie season, I can only imagine where his attitude might end up in next season - not rookie any more and not younger driver any more.

I still have my doubts that McLaren conflict had only 2 sides (RD and FA). Actually I'm pretty sure Hamilton clan started whole thing one way or another. Budapest, anybody..?
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By racechick
#22381
"Turning the whole team on his side (being Britton and all that?)"
Schumacher was German. He was the master at this.
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By deMuRe
#22387
"Turning the whole team on his side (being Britton and all that?)"
Schumacher was German. He was the master at this.


Yes, he did, but he did this with results behind him in a non front running car.

Lewis is a rookie sensation, and I hope he goes on and fills the void Schumacher left behind, but until he gets a couple of WC's under his belt and/or gets results in a non front running car he wont have complete respect from all F1 fans.

I would like to see Lewis win a couple of WC's with McLaren and then move to a team like Red Bull or Renault and do it all over again.

It's all pure speculation as the poor lad hasn't had a chance to find his feet peacefully.
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By racechick
#22390
Schumacher had the team dancing round him to ridiculous lengths. No competitive team mate allowed in the team, and if the non competitive team mate looked like winning he had to move over.He got all the best strategies and the new upgrades first, I've not seen that from Lewis. He was up against a double world champion and at the start of the season if anything Alonso had the favoured strategies(even Alonso admits that). Lewis was way faster at Monaco but Alonso had the strategy, There was another race as well(was it Spain?cant remember). No one expected Lewis to have the speed and composure he did, and when he led the drivers world chamionship they had to give him anequal chance, Not favours though.

He has been lucky to start in that team and no doubt feels very comfortable there as he's been with them for many years. That is probably daunting to a team mate with such a fragile psychological make up as Alonso(it wouldnt have fazed Kimi).Also Alonso couldn't handle being beaten by a rookie.
Lewis has raced since the age of about 8 and won every category he's raced in so although he is an F1 rookie he has plenty of results behind him.
But all that aside Lewis wants to win on track by being the best and as long as he does that I imagine he will have the support and respect from his team.He doesnt need to "turn the whole team on his side".
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By bud
#22396
"Turning the whole team on his side (being Britton and all that?)"
Schumacher was German. He was the master at this.


Yes, he did, but he did this with results behind him in a non front running car.

Lewis is a rookie sensation, and I hope he goes on and fills the void Schumacher left behind, but until he gets a couple of WC's under his belt and/or gets results in a non front running car he wont have complete respect from all F1 fans.

I would like to see Lewis win a couple of WC's with McLaren and then move to a team like Red Bull or Renault and do it all over again.

It's all pure speculation as the poor lad hasn't had a chance to find his feet peacefully.


what are you talking about Schumi winning titles in a non front running car?
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By deMuRe
#22404
"Turning the whole team on his side (being Britton and all that?)"
Schumacher was German. He was the master at this.


Yes, he did, but he did this with results behind him in a non front running car.

Lewis is a rookie sensation, and I hope he goes on and fills the void Schumacher left behind, but until he gets a couple of WC's under his belt and/or gets results in a non front running car he wont have complete respect from all F1 fans.

I would like to see Lewis win a couple of WC's with McLaren and then move to a team like Red Bull or Renault and do it all over again.

It's all pure speculation as the poor lad hasn't had a chance to find his feet peacefully.


what are you talking about Schumi winning titles in a non front running car?


The Bennetton wasn't the class of the field. Schumacher brought with him "a way of working" to quote from the horses mouth. The teams gave it to him because they knew they could rely on him.

What Schumacher had was the envy of every driver up and down the pitlane, JV tried to emulate it but he didn't have the minerals.
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By Cillit Bang
#22409
The Bennetton wasn't the class of the field. Schumacher brought with him "a way of working" to quote from the horses mouth. The teams gave it to him because they knew they could rely on him.


That's a fair point. In 1995 Schumacher scored 102 points to Herbert's 45.

This probably shows Schumacher's skill compared to Herbert's as much as anything else though.

Will Hamilton react to Nico the way that Alonso reacted to Hamilton? Nico has been fighting the BMW's when his car was only good enough to fight with the Renault's. I just think Nico in the McLaren will be faster than Hamilton.



Hamilton scored the same amount of points as a double world champion, who was given number 1 status until Hamilton was seen to be equal. I think whoever Hamilton's teammate is next year will have to do the same, that is be seen to be competing equally before the drivers are treated equally.
By Mikep99
#22438
Pedro de la Rosa has joined Max Mosley in playing down the significance of Lewis Hamilton's rookie performance in 2007.

The Spaniard, who is the primary test and reserve driver at McLaren, praised Hamilton's widely lauded run to second place this season but observed that the 22-year-old 'had the best tools' at his disposal to do so.

FIA President Mosley on Wednesday said there has recently been 'a tendency to exaggerate' Hamilton's impact on Formula One, adding that 'there is always somebody new' to motivate sporting hype. De la Rosa, meanwhile, told Spain's Radio Marca that while Hamilton 'is a great driver,' he thinks he also 'could have done just as well' with the Mercedes-powered MP4-22.

The 36-year-old also said he doesn't know 'anything about the future' of his countryman Fernando Alonso at the Woking team.

Source GMM
© CAPSIS International


What do you think :?: I don't think it's completely out of the question. Not sure about de la Rosa doing the same job, but I am sure a few other drives in the field would have.
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By Cillit Bang
#22441
I really don't think de La Rosa "could have done just as well" as Hamilton. That's just silly.

I also can't think of a reason why he would need to say that, or why he agrees with Max Mosely. Again, silly.
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By bud
#22446
"Turning the whole team on his side (being Britton and all that?)"
Schumacher was German. He was the master at this.


Yes, he did, but he did this with results behind him in a non front running car.

Lewis is a rookie sensation, and I hope he goes on and fills the void Schumacher left behind, but until he gets a couple of WC's under his belt and/or gets results in a non front running car he wont have complete respect from all F1 fans.

I would like to see Lewis win a couple of WC's with McLaren and then move to a team like Red Bull or Renault and do it all over again.

It's all pure speculation as the poor lad hasn't had a chance to find his feet peacefully.


what are you talking about Schumi winning titles in a non front running car?


The Bennetton wasn't the class of the field. Schumacher brought with him "a way of working" to quote from the horses mouth. The teams gave it to him because they knew they could rely on him.

What Schumacher had was the envy of every driver up and down the pitlane, JV tried to emulate it but he didn't have the minerals.


The Bennetton wasnt a slouch either, i mean if Schumacher was so much better than the cars he drove then he should have had no issues what so ever with the problems Ferrari had in 2005

i think some Schumacher Sheep should come back down to earth
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By bud
#22447
Pedro de la Rosa has joined Max Mosley in playing down the significance of Lewis Hamilton's rookie performance in 2007.

The Spaniard, who is the primary test and reserve driver at McLaren, praised Hamilton's widely lauded run to second place this season but observed that the 22-year-old 'had the best tools' at his disposal to do so.

FIA President Mosley on Wednesday said there has recently been 'a tendency to exaggerate' Hamilton's impact on Formula One, adding that 'there is always somebody new' to motivate sporting hype. De la Rosa, meanwhile, told Spain's Radio Marca that while Hamilton 'is a great driver,' he thinks he also 'could have done just as well' with the Mercedes-powered MP4-22.

The 36-year-old also said he doesn't know 'anything about the future' of his countryman Fernando Alonso at the Woking team.

Source GMM
© CAPSIS International


What do you think :?: I don't think it's completely out of the question. Not sure about de la Rosa doing the same job, but I am sure a few other drives in the field would have.


Im sure even you could have done just aswell Mike!

and whats pdlr going on about? if he was in the number 2 car he would have happily played second fiddle for Alonso this season! Ferrari fans are lucky that wasnt the case, Fernando would have cake walked in the title this year!
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By racechick
#22448
The Bennetton had illegal softwear on it.
De la Rosa is just a little too boring. He not gonna make it. Not in Lewis' league
By Mikep99
#22453
Pedro de la Rosa has joined Max Mosley in playing down the significance of Lewis Hamilton's rookie performance in 2007.

The Spaniard, who is the primary test and reserve driver at McLaren, praised Hamilton's widely lauded run to second place this season but observed that the 22-year-old 'had the best tools' at his disposal to do so.

FIA President Mosley on Wednesday said there has recently been 'a tendency to exaggerate' Hamilton's impact on Formula One, adding that 'there is always somebody new' to motivate sporting hype. De la Rosa, meanwhile, told Spain's Radio Marca that while Hamilton 'is a great driver,' he thinks he also 'could have done just as well' with the Mercedes-powered MP4-22.

The 36-year-old also said he doesn't know 'anything about the future' of his countryman Fernando Alonso at the Woking team.

Source GMM
© CAPSIS International


What do you think :?: I don't think it's completely out of the question. Not sure about de la Rosa doing the same job, but I am sure a few other drives in the field would have.


Im sure even you could have done just aswell Mike!

and whats pdlr going on about? if he was in the number 2 car he would have happily played second fiddle for Alonso this season! Ferrari fans are lucky that wasnt the case, Fernando would have cake walked in the title this year!


Bud, No I doubt I would even get off the line, but there are a few heroes around here that would have no problem at all I am sure. After all you could Photoshop yourself on the top spot of the podium each race and fool everyone. :wink:

Like I said I doubt Pedro would have done anything, but I do think because of the car some other drivers would have done just as good a job as Hammy I am sure.

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