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By texasmr2
#15401
No Klan meeting.......

I personely do not find this funny at all and I know I am not alone. I will kindly ask you for the last time LET IT DIE!

Gregg
By Lewisfan
#15402
No Klan meeting.......

I personely do not find this funny at all and I know I am not alone. I will kindly ask you for the last time LET IT DIE!

Gregg


It's not mean to be funny as a Jewish person I am NOT LAUGHING.
#15403
With reference to the comments made by Mosely about JYS without actually naming him ISTR Moseley has made not disimilar comments in the past (2004) about Ron Dennis as "not the sharpest knife in the box".

I think we all know both Ron Dennis CBE and Sir Jackie Stewart OBE don't need to prove themselves, I mention the honours bestowed on these two gentlemen deliberately as it apears Max has a bit of chip on his shoulder regarding the british honours system, he cannot understand how two dirty fingered self-educated mechanics can be richer than he is and honoured by the country he was born in.


To understand Max's view the world one has to look into his past.
True it is not his fault his facist father was the "the most hated man in england" or that his even more right wing mother hid an autographed picture of Adolf Hitler under Max's cot as an Infant when she was arrested by Special Branch. To be fair it must have had sentimental value Max's mum and dad only had two guests at thier Berlin wedding one was Adolf Hitler the other was Joseph Goebbels.

It can be established Max was an avid supporter of his fathers post war "Union" (fascist) party until at least the age of 24 (by coincidence ?) the same age he qualified as barrister. Indeed he acted as his fathers election and was a prospective parlimentary candidate.

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Quote Max's very frequently edited and re-edited Wikipedia, entry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Mosley
"Mosley was an election agent for his father's post-war party, the Union Movement. He was for a time the party's prospective candidate for the Salford East constituency but withdrew shortly before the 1964 General Election. For a time Mosley was interested in becoming a Conservative MP but switched his allegiance to the Labour Party after meeting its then leader, John Smith, in 1994."
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Max Moseley active for his fathers party in the 1958 and 1962 election I quote a BBC report on the 1962 election
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/date ... 776295.stm
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"Police were forced to close the meeting within three minutes and made 54 arrests - including Sir Oswald's son Max."

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Perhaps it is this pdf file found on the internet that tells us most about Max and his past (?) view of the world -- see section on the 1958 election at the bottom of page 12 in this PDFe http://www.historytalk.org/Tom%20Vague% ... hp%201.pdf

If true his attitudes to Lewis Hamilton can only be guessed at.


Best posting I seen on any F1 forum thanks for
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By texasmr2
#15406
It's not mean to be funny as a Jewish person I am NOT LAUGHING.[/b]


That's fine but I would prefer to keep racism or any reference to it completely off this website I hope you can understand.

Thank's,
Gregg
By britishtrident
#15421
Most people in UK motorsport knew when Max was elected who he was, but took the view that the sins of the father (and barking mad but dangerously charming mother) should not be visited on the son. To put it in perspective as president Max was initially at least a vast improvement on the individual he succeeded.
Only after a few of his recent remarks did I begin googling around to find out more.

His father's pre WW2 political party was bank rolled by the fascist Italians after the Nazis withdrew funding, apparently the Italians handed the money over in the street outside Italian embassy in the form of untraceable used note brown paper bags but demanded a receipt !

Oldman Ferrari's move to Maranello was also bankrolled by Mussolini who bestowed the title Commendatori.

However Max's connection with Ferrari is probably non-fascist and more aided by the common ground he has with Luca Cordero di Montezemolo who like Max is from an aristocratic familly and is a quailfied lawyer. The Montezemolo clan is very well connected in Italy having a member who is a cardinal (Andrea Cardinal Cordero Lanza di Montezemolo). The cardinals father was killed in a massacre personally ordered by Hitler.


Max's brother Alex Moseley is a leading light in the pro-foxhunting movement in the UK ---- which says it all !
By britishtrident
#15422
I also checked up on Jean Todt --- I am 100% sure he has no connection with the Nazi Fritz Todt.
By Lewisfan
#15423
I also checked up on Jean Todt --- I am 100% sure he has no connection with the Nazi Fritz Todt.


What? Jean Todt girlfriend is a beautiful Asian lady. On another subject with mad-max head of the fia which he created, I don't know if I will continue watching motor sport or f1.
#15550
No doubt many of you will have read Mosley's latest remarks, however, they merit a thread of their own and some discussion.

From autosport.com:

FIA president Max Mosley believes that the sport's governing body will have no choice but to punish McLaren further if there is any evidence of Ferrari-inspired parts on their 2008 car.

The design of McLaren's future chassis will be evaluated by the FIA later this year to ensure that it is free of any components that could have been inspired by intellectual property from Ferrari.

And although McLaren have always insisted that no Ferrari IP was even used on their 2007 car, Mosley has warned that the FIA will have no hesitation in taking action if they feel there are questionable parts.

"Everything will come out in detail and we will all be surprised," Mosley was quoted by The Daily Express as saying about the still looming legal action over the matter.

"I feel the only way to have a fair championship in 2008 would have been to exclude McLaren but that would probably have put them out of business.

"It would have been correct to throw Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton out of this year's drivers' championship but in the World Motor Sport Council, hearts ruled heads. If there was serious evidence of Ferrari's influence in any McLaren design, however, we would have to take action.

"We don't want this to drag on but I don't feel it has harmed F1. The fans and sponsors who are putting in huge sums of money want to know the sport is honest."

Mosley has also hit back at criticisms from former world champion Jackie Stewart about his handling of the affair.

"There's one particular ex-driver who because he never stops talking, never has the chance to listen — so he doesn't know what's going on," Mosley was quoted as saying by The Daily Mail.

"He said the FIA's decision would not have worked in a civil court. He has no qualification to say that. Then he starts saying this is personal between me and Ron Dennis, at great length, because everything he does is at extreme length.

"It's annoying that some of the sponsors listen to him because he's won a few championships. But nobody else in Formula One does — not the teams, not the drivers. He's a figure of fun among drivers."

He added: "He goes round dressed up as a 1930s music hall man. He's a certified halfwit."


Firstly, he criticises Sir Jackie Stewart for saying, truthfully might I add, that the decision would not have stood up in a civil court. Mosley denies this as though he has has never heard of it, despite it being raised by McLaren's legal team at the hearing.

He then says, "hearts ruled heads". Now, surely that isn't particularly legal? Never mind not excluding the drivers, the decision was based on hearts, not heads.

I would also be nice for him to define what exactly are "questionable parts"? For dear sake, you could cast doubt over anything with that statement, and what if the parts were similar by coincidence?

Finally, aside from totally disrepecting somebody who has been a postive influence on the sport, one of the greats of the sport, and a man of great experience, are these kinds of statements not completely unprofessional? How can the sport be taken seriously with such corner-boy remarks?

I would suggest he knows Sir Jackie Stewart, Murray Walker, Jarno Trulli, Mark Webber, Niki Lauda et al. etc. are all right about the spy inquest, that truth is hurting, so he feels compelled to lash out.
from MMs comments i get the impression that should hamilton win the drivers championship, it will then be decided to take away his points, leaving kimi the champion. idont think kimi would want to win it that way. MMs favouritism for ferrari hardly seems right for a supposed neutral FIA. taking points from LH and FA at this poin, could do lasting damage to the sport.IF they were going to remove the points they should have done so at the same time the team lost theirs.

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