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It is terrible as much as I think Red Bull are crooked, no intention of pun, but why do people who steal like these exist? I could go ranting...In fact, I might create a thread because...I hate this world
I hear you Liam, its like thewho hunt animals for sport and not food.
But this RBR robbery stinks to the high heavens, something well fishy about it
First of all, like someone said earlier, you couldnt resell them, they are not worth much for the metals. So why would some one plan an elaborate robbery for something thats not financial but sentimental?
Therefore the finger must point at someone wanting them for sentimental and not monetary reasons, which brings us nicely back to RBR and someone feeling attached to them
Mr Adrian Newey, obviously left RBR, not on best friend terms, we see this by the nature of the schedule of his leaving. First last year we heard lots about sailing, then Ainsley comes begging him to join, He apparently says no, he has a committment to RBR, then suddenly Adrian, not RBR are telling us he wants to take a step back and do other things, then finally we hear that he is teaming up with Ainsley barely a months after he was apporached and in time to have helped design Britains entry next summer
So my dear Watson, we can eliminate a pro thief, we must look at the team, it would be someone not staying next year because of the timing (after the season), so the suspects are those leaving this year
Seb wouldnt steal the trophies, who else left? who else could possibly attach sentimental value to ALL the teams wins for the last 5 years?
Mr Adrian Newey - I take my hat off to you, theres maybe been some dispute with the odious Horner amd someone arrived at night to collect whats 'his' and the night staff couldnt say no/didnt know what to do, which is why the someone picked the time he did. Now when we think back to how Adrian left McLaren and Williams........
And i didnt see any evidence of a physical break in anywhere, and the statement was cleverly worded to say a 4x4 'broke' in 'through' the entrance, maybe didnt actually crash thru like some of the more excitable press are saying
So maybe not a robbery, maybe more a dispute between the two, and maybe cleverly solved by Adrian deploying the old adage - 'Possession is 9/10ths of the law'
So maybe Horner got screwed again
post I have seen from you, and that is saying a lot!
I thought you were gonna show us the libelous part - i.e outline the part that has upset you - its not enough to 'feel' I am out of line - you gotta show how. but sensitive Lewis, humble but clever paddy They are all touched by karmahttp://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/12/red-bull-devastated-after-thieves-steal-over-60-f1-trophies-in-factory-break-in/
Would I be cynical if I said Seb was the getaway driver lol
:doh: I thought you were gonna show us the libelous part - i.e outline the part that has upset you - its not enough to 'feel' I am out of line - you gotta show how.
Yes Newey is employed by Red Bull, and Red Bull have many separate divisions with different staff, and so if there was a fall out with Horner like I suggested then the fact that he is now to represent Red Bull Advanced Technologies (RBAT) and not Red Bull Racing (RBR) kinda supports my speculation
Anyway, you accuse someone of libel;, but cant prove it, you are not sure if someone is trolling or winding you up, yet you are frustrated that the stuff I post, which unsettles you, but you are unable to shut me up in debate and so your objection is delivered in a 1 line opinion because you have a real life?
I suggest you either stop getting hot and bothered about my posts, or simply stop me making them by demonstrating how they are not worthy of debate - if your busy life give you the time to debate within the rules ofcourse
otherwise, continue to object from a safe distance
Also, I have noticed that most people that isnt a Hamilton lover has left - I wonder why.....
I've had enough to be honest. You are either an idiot or a troll. If someone disagrees with you then they are automatically wrong.
you are the one that disagrees with my posts and doesnt even try to comment on my opinion before calling it sh!tThat is not only potentially libelous but also the most
Also, I have noticed that most people that isnt a Hamilton lover has left - I wonder why.....
:doh: I thought you were gonna show us the libelous part - i.e outline the part that has upset you - its not enough to 'feel' I am out of line - you gotta show how.
Yes Newey is employed by Red Bull, and Red Bull have many separate divisions with different staff, and so if there was a fall out with Horner like I suggested then the fact that he is now to represent Red Bull Advanced Technologies (RBAT) and not Red Bull Racing (RBR) kinda supports my speculation
Anyway, you accuse someone of libel;, but cant prove it, you are not sure if someone is trolling or winding you up, yet you are frustrated that the stuff I post, which unsettles you, but you are unable to shut me up in debate and so your objection is delivered in a 1 line opinion because you have a real life?
I suggest you either stop getting hot and bothered about my posts, or simply stop me making them by demonstrating how they are not worthy of debate - if your busy life give you the time to debate within the rules ofcourse
otherwise, continue to object from a safe distance
you hit the nail on the head in lalaland
Major William Brown, US Army (Ret)
Why didn’t the guards shoot them? I suspect they were not from England, but perhaps from the Middle East where some rich person will display them in secret for his enjoyment. Another option would be a sort of terror attack at the foundation of what makes English sport tick- auto racing. I smell a rat here. If the security guards were not armed, then tell me what good are they? This is private, personal property and the English must understand that they have the God-given right to defend themselves and their property.
on December 6, 2014 at 7:43 pm | ReplyJoe Saward
This is England. We don’t walk around with guns
on December 6, 2014 at 8:20 pm | ReplyPeter Coffman
Nor do you blame people “from the Middle East” for everything bad that happens, or see terrorists lurking in every corner. Thank you for remaining sane.
on December 6, 2014 at 10:44 pm | ReplyJohn C.
I suspect the comment may have been ‘satire’…
on December 7, 2014 at 12:16 am | ReplyBen
I suspect you may be right, but if so then it’s failed in that it has no context to the event. Just reeling out some cardboard cutout gun loving American stereotype in a story that has no relation to it, and in the comments section of an F1 journalist’s blog? It’s only ever going to be taken out of context by anyone reading it. This is a story about a break in at an F1 team, not about guns, the right to defend a property or shooting people.
on December 6, 2014 at 8:33 pm | ReplyBenK
On what insane planet do you think it is justified to shoot people (potential lethally) over a bunch of racing trophies?
on December 6, 2014 at 11:15 pm | Replymilkboy
I really can’t tell if you are being serious or not. If not, excellent comment.
on December 7, 2014 at 12:11 am | ReplyMajor William Irvine Brown
10 or more years ago I would have been kidding and perhaps my comment about shooting was ill-advised. However, I think England, France, Belgium and other countries, including my own, have their heads in the ground when it comes to protecting themselves and their property. The London and Paris police can’t even defend themselves in many cases nor will they go in certain neighborhoods to do their duty for fear of being shot. The idea that two cars would drive in through a building and steal trophies for metal makes little sense to me; too easy to get similar metal through other means. Sounds very planned and evidently well executed. The UK is on the hit-list big time and my own country’s constant meddling in the business of others is largely responsible for the turmoil the world is in. I simply cannot rule out a terrorist meaning behind all this. I applaud the English sense of decency and proper behavior, but that is now rather archaic thinking that others who have immigrated to the UK don’t necessarily have and follow. They know it our collective weak point. I have many good friends in the UK and my heart and blood is from Scotland, Ireland and England. I know most of its best drivers and many are my friends. One good friend and a living legend in sports cars lives in the US now because he “can’t recognize my own country any more”. I do pray that this will prove to be nothing truly sinister and apologize for getting anyone overly bothered. Some things may not be worth dying for, but bad people always know that and exploit it. As for me and my house…..
on December 7, 2014 at 6:43 am | ReplyJoe Saward
That’s enough of that. Thanks. Let’s keep it F1 please.
on December 7, 2014 at 1:53 am | ReplyTravis R
Oh, wonderful. Thank you for for embarrassing America by reinforcing the gun-lovin’, Middle East-hatin’ good ‘ol boy American stereotype. And we wonder why the rest of the planet hates us…
on December 7, 2014 at 3:03 am | ReplyCome back Brawn
Yes, those poor Middle Eastern billionaires who would not think for a second in spending a million pounds on a piece of furniture….they would be the first people that you would suspect of organising a ram raid.
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