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Zytek partnered with Merc to deliver the guts of the Kers. This was a few years ago. Since then Merc power trains have been responsible for the MGU-H and MGU-K. There is a big advantage in the vertical chain I mentioned when it came down to the design and integration of the chassis and engine in tandem. There can be no disputing this fact. The results speak for themselves. Mercs engine, control electronics, ERS-H and ERS- K were all designed in tandem in a vertical Daimler owned chain.
Renault underestimated the amount of time and resource to allocate, they were there to actually turn a profit from supplying their customers.
its hard to separate the advantages and benefits associated with this vertical chain at the design stage, but Red Bull for one have moaned very loudly about the disadvantage of not having it.
The 3 designer/producer entities for the ERS systems on all the PUs on the grid today are Renault Motorsport, Mercedes power trains and Magnetti Marrelli. Out put and integration are therefore part and parcel, and any deficit, mistakes etc found on the dyno will be partly to do with the integration and access at the design stage, something which Mercedes had in a vertical chain.
For example, the design of the PU, splitting the elements like Merc did was left to an external company for Ferrari who also had the same idea.
This page has been updated several times since it first appeared and has a wealth of info about the 3 PUs
http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/engine_power_unit_and_ers.html
and this article should illustrate Zyteks involvement with the original Kers and subsequent non involvement with Mercedes Powertrains (formerly Ilmor) or the newly spun off Ilmor subsidiary
Renault underestimated the amount of time and resource to allocate, they were there to actually turn a profit from supplying their customers.
its hard to separate the advantages and benefits associated with this vertical chain at the design stage, but Red Bull for one have moaned very loudly about the disadvantage of not having it.
The 3 designer/producer entities for the ERS systems on all the PUs on the grid today are Renault Motorsport, Mercedes power trains and Magnetti Marrelli. Out put and integration are therefore part and parcel, and any deficit, mistakes etc found on the dyno will be partly to do with the integration and access at the design stage, something which Mercedes had in a vertical chain.
For example, the design of the PU, splitting the elements like Merc did was left to an external company for Ferrari who also had the same idea.
This page has been updated several times since it first appeared and has a wealth of info about the 3 PUs
http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/engine_power_unit_and_ers.html
and this article should illustrate Zyteks involvement with the original Kers and subsequent non involvement with Mercedes Powertrains (formerly Ilmor) or the newly spun off Ilmor subsidiary
Zytek interested in F1's 2014 engine rules
GMMf1NET - March 17th - 5:05am
Mar.17 (GMM) Yet another new name could be looking seriously at F1's radical engine rules for 2014.
It is already a poorly-guarded paddock secret that McLaren is likely to team up with the Japanese giant Honda, probably in 2015.
But with Marussia supplier Cosworth looking set to depart the sport at the end of the current season, the only confirmed engine manufacturers for the new turbo V6 era beginning next year are Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari.
However, another one could be Zytek, a British engineering company.
A leader in the hybrid field, Zytek currently works in the Auto GP, Le Mans and Renault World Series categories, and helped Mercedes to develop its KERS in 2009.
On Twitter, the company hinted it was looking closely at F1's 2014 rules, "but (we) can't say too much about that at this stage".
"Maybe we will do a whole power unit ourselves," Zytek added.
"Certainly we have all the elements needed for it in our skills/experience plus the (regulations) reset gives newcomers a chance.
"(It's) certainly a big job and needs serious money to turn the basic engineering concept into a competitive package."

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