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[spankyham]

A little more on Mark Hughes, I happen to agree with much, not all, of what he says, but often he is still giving his opinion and entitled to do so. You dont have to agree, but before you write him off as a guy who 'knows, nothing, is biased, is just a media hack' etc etc heres a little more about him. His articles are always very beautifuly written, very knowledgeable and technically informative

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A10467470

Dont rubbish his writing skills just because you dont always agree with his opinions.

Didn't he support that dingbat idea of shortcuts on F1 tracks?

[racechick]

A little more on Mark Hughes, I happen to agree with much, not all, of what he says, but often he is still giving his opinion and entitled to do so. You dont have to agree, but before you write him off as a guy who 'knows, nothing, is biased, is just a media hack' etc etc heres a little more about him. His articles are always very beautifuly written, very knowledgeable and technically informative

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A10467470

Dont rubbish his writing skills just because you dont always agree with his opinions.

Didn't he support that dingbat idea of shortcuts on F1 tracks?

I dont know, he may have done. I remember reading something about it, but it wasnt the same as Bernie's idea, it was different. Cant remember the details now. I think it was more different ways round parts of the track rather than shortcuts-to aid faster cars overtaking. Bernies was some sort of scheme where-by you got so many chances to take a shortcut.

[FRAFPDD]

Any journalist can write. Thats the reason they are a Journalist!

What matters is if their opinions are worth anything. Mark Hughes is definitely biased.

If you took an American journo he would have a clearer opinion based on facts and evidence than Mark Hughes who writes mainly for the English public.

what and autosports journos are of no nationality are they, you fail at logic.

[vaptin]

To continue the slagging of of Mr Hughes, I recall his special magic article about Lewis being able to take pole at Abu Dhabi (in 2010), it just reeked of bias.

Anyway, I'm going to put up another top f1 expert, Mr Benson:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson ... ivers.html

3) Sebastian Vettel is a great talent and a deserving world champion but, considering the stunning pace of the Red Bull car, he should have won many more races and clinched the title much sooner.

The car's fragility did not help - failures in Bahrain, Australia, Spain and Korea cost him a lot of points - but the German also made a number of high-profile errors. He crashed into rivals in Turkey and Belgium, suffered a puncture following a red-mist moment at Silverstone and was penalised for misjudging the safety car in Hungary.

Ten pole positions and five wins speak for themselves to an extent but, as the (slightly) faster driver in comfortably the fastest car, they are to be expected.

Some of those pole laps were stunning, though, with Vettel possessing an Ayrton Senna-esque ability to pull that little bit extra out on his very final lap, no matter what the circumstances, while each one of his wins was a masterpiece of domination.

However, there have to be fewer mistakes, more wins dragged out of adversity and more convincing performances when he is back in the pack for him to be ranked above the next names on the list.

2) Had this article been written after the Belgian Grand Prix, Lewis Hamilton would have occupied the number one spot.

Up to that point, Hamilton had made not a single mistake worth the name and he was leading the championship in what had from the mid-point of the season been the third fastest car.

Hamilton had maintained his exuberant, attacking style and stunning natural pace and had mated it to a consistency that was making him a formidable competitor.

His fantastic victory at Spa - not forgetting the qualifying lap that earned him second on the grid on slicks in a shower of rain - confirmed him as the outstanding driver of the season to that point, notwithstanding the canny Button's two wet wins.

Suddenly, though, it all went wrong. Hamilton crashed out of the next two races in Monza and Singapore and when he crashed again in Friday practice at the next race in Japan his season appeared to be coming apart at the seams.

But then came one of the laps of the season - third on the grid at Suzuka in a car in which he had done just six flying laps before qualifying. It was a reminder of Hamilton's amazing talent. By then, though, as far as the championship was concerned, the damage had been done.

1) Fernando Alonso's first year with Ferrari started with a few shaky races and finished with a strategic mistake that cost him the title. In between the Spaniard did just enough to earn the right to call himself the best driver of 2010.

Early-season errors were born of trying too hard in a car that was not quite on the pace. Combine that with Ferrari losing their way for a while and Alonso was 47 points off the lead at the midpoint of the season.

But in a car that established itself as the second fastest behind the Red Bull, he recovered that margin by driving with a consistent, relentless brilliance that his rivals were not able to match. His victories at Monza and Singapore were stunning. Only Hamilton at Spa and perhaps Webber at Monaco can claim a performance of comparable quality.

That ultimately Alonso did not win a third title was only because of his team's error in Abu Dhabi. For the 2005 and 2006 champion, as he said himself, it was still a great year.

[FRAFPDD]

ahajaha rofl, telling us hughes reeks of bias then showing us what i presume you think is an unbias article and it doesnt even mentuion seven points he gained through cheating, hahahaha, oh god when it isnt mind bendingly annoying the agenda pushing posts in here are downright hilarious. isnt it funny how aurosport, hughes and benson dont have the axtual world champion as top? coincidence, i think not.

[vaptin]

Andrew Benson is pretty unbiased, in my opinion of course.

Massa moving over for him in Germany isn't indicative Alonso's a poor driver.

[nish2280]

Any journalist can write. Thats the reason they are a Journalist!

What matters is if their opinions are worth anything. Mark Hughes is definitely biased.

If you took an American journo he would have a clearer opinion based on facts and evidence than Mark Hughes who writes mainly for the English public.

Well thats your opinion.
Any journalist can write yes, but not always write well.

I doubt an American journalist would have the F1 facts, evidence and knowledge needed to write detailed articles about F1 every week. American series yes.

And why would you doubt that? Its not like their isnt a Formula One following in the US, i mean we have plenty of American F1 fans on this forum to prove it! So its not like there is a lack of funding for them to travel to every race.

And thats pretty much all you need. To be at every race, inside the paddock and to be known. Why wouldnt an American Journo have access to that when living in Asia, we have plenty of Journos who do that.

Do you know such a journalist so that I could read some of his/her work and assess the quality?

The reason I doubt it is the depth of Knowledge and understanding one gets from being immersed in something for many many years, is greater than that of someone who just hops on a plane to watch a race.

So you claim that an American Journo is not able to possess such knowledge from experience?
This extract from an Autosport article might give you a little better understanding of why i claim autosport and Mark Hughes to be biased.

"Other categories include International Racing Car of the Year and International Rally Driver of the Year, while the evening ends with the announcement of the winner of this year's McLaren AUTOSPORT BRDC Award, which will see one of six young British drivers chosen to receive the increased £100,000 prize and McLaren F1 test."

[texasmr2]

I doubt an American journalist would have the F1 facts, evidence and knowledge needed to write detailed articles about F1 every week. American series yes.

Now that is just an ignorant comment and one of the main problems with the forum as a whole. Honestly I cannot believe you said that and I was gonna send you a Christmas card !

[Jack Master]

Andrew Benson is pretty unbiased, in my opinion of course.

Massa moving over for him in Germany isn't indicative Alonso's a poor driver.

I agree with you and there are not many like him.

[racechick]

Any journalist can write. Thats the reason they are a Journalist!

What matters is if their opinions are worth anything. Mark Hughes is definitely biased.

If you took an American journo he would have a clearer opinion based on facts and evidence than Mark Hughes who writes mainly for the English public.

Well thats your opinion.
Any journalist can write yes, but not always write well.

I doubt an American journalist would have the F1 facts, evidence and knowledge needed to write detailed articles about F1 every week. American series yes.

And why would you doubt that? Its not like their isnt a Formula One following in the US, i mean we have plenty of American F1 fans on this forum to prove it! So its not like there is a lack of funding for them to travel to every race.

And thats pretty much all you need. To be at every race, inside the paddock and to be known. Why wouldnt an American Journo have access to that when living in Asia, we have plenty of Journos who do that.

Do you know such a journalist so that I could read some of his/her work and assess the quality?

The reason I doubt it is the depth of Knowledge and understanding one gets from being immersed in something for many many years, is greater than that of someone who just hops on a plane to watch a race.

So you claim that an American Journo is not able to possess such knowledge from experience?
This extract from an Autosport article might give you a little better understanding of why i claim autosport and Mark Hughes to be biased.

"Other categories include International Racing Car of the Year and International Rally Driver of the Year, while the evening ends with the announcement of the winner of this year's McLaren AUTOSPORT BRDC Award, which will see one of six young British drivers chosen to receive the increased £100,000 prize and McLaren F1 test."

Im not sure what point you're making here?

[bud]

Andrew Benson is pretty unbiased, in my opinion of course.

Massa moving over for him in Germany isn't indicative Alonso's a poor driver.

I agree with you and there are not many like him.

yep Alonso is in a class of his hown, piece of s*** driver.

[racechick]

I doubt an American journalist would have the F1 facts, evidence and knowledge needed to write detailed articles about F1 every week. American series yes.

Now that is just an ignorant comment and one of the main problems with the forum as a whole. Honestly I cannot believe you said that and I was gonna send you a Christmas card !

I didnt mean any offence or disrespect by that. If you read the link I posted you'll see that M.Hughes has been involved with F1 for many many years. I doubt he could write as eloquently as an Amerian journalist on racing series that dominate in the US. There really is no F1 base in the US. If there is such a journalist then I apologise and would be glad to read his contributions.

[bud]

f*** its not as bad as americans ons americans...... i mean world series...... duck a bit over the top considering its only american clubs playing in this seris.... but thats ok Americans think they are superiour to the rest of the world.....

[Jack Master]

Andrew Benson is pretty unbiased, in my opinion of course.

Massa moving over for him in Germany isn't indicative Alonso's a poor driver.

I agree with you and there are not many like him.

yep Alonso is in a class of his hown, piece of s*** driver.

Well, here you are again. Looking for a fight. How would you feel if I end my posts this way?
LEWIS HAMILTON THE ONLY DRIVER NAMED FOUR CONSECUTIVE TIMES ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Don’t begin things that you are not able to finish; I wouldn’t like to have a harsh arguing with uncle Tex when he comes defending you again. I don’t want either the mods coming after me just because I have to answer your continuous insults in the way that you deserve.

[texasmr2]

yep Alonso is in a class of his hown, piece of s*** driver.

Classic bud speak .

If there is such a journalist then I apologise and would be glad to read his contributions.

Sam Posey or Bob Varsha ring a bell? Although neither are 100% journo's only contributing journo's but both have been following/covering F1 for just as long as Hughes has if not longer and oh my one of them is a highly respected driver aswell. You are correct though about us yank's not having a proper F1 journalist but that is not our fault and does not mean we have no idea about F1.
I'll go ahead and send you your Christmas card just because .

So anywho back OT imho Lewis was not the #1 driver this past season but was in the top 5.

Uncle Tex.

You made me blush .

So anyway lady's and gent's it would be nice if we, myself included , could stop berating each others opinions and just talk about our beloved F1 ?