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#143468
They have a test and reserve driver so I don't know why there was ever any question about him. If I were hired as the test and reserve driver then I would expect to get the seat. I wouldn't want to do my duties with the fear that I might not get reserve duty hanging over my head.

A good test driver doesn't necessarily use the same skill set as a race driver - see, e.g., AW, a great test driver and a lesser race driver. So, your logic with respect to causality is flawed I'm afraid.


I'm not 6, you don't need to explain that stuff. I said he's the test and RESERVE driver. He's perfectly qualified to race. Ferrari obviously feels he can race. DC was given Senna's seat and Sir Frank said it was only logical since he was the reserve driver. No one else was considered. Mansell's one offs were just for show(although Nigel did see it as an audition for 95 and tried to Psychologically keep DC down). We all know that any driver who takes a test role does so because he wants to race and probably wasn't offered any race drive and this is better than nothing and maybe I can impress someone etc.
If the is driver is just a TEST driver then there's alot less entitlement, yes, but Badoer is the RESERVE driver.
I know you're not 6 and you didn't need this told to you.


I usually see Badoer referred to as TEST driver for Ferrari - sometimes even as 'permanent' test driver. He's been at it for 13 years! And he was overlooked before, when MS broke his leg in 99 and Ferrari hired Mika Salo instead of giving the seat to their test driver Badoer.
#143482
I usually see Badoer referred to as TEST driver for Ferrari - sometimes even as 'permanent' test driver. He's been at it for 13 years! And he was overlooked before, when MS broke his leg in 99 and Ferrari hired Mika Salo instead of giving the seat to their test driver Badoer.

Indeed. And the fact of the matter is, Gene has already driven the car. He's a much more logical choice than Professional Test Driver Luca Badoer, who hasn't actually so much as tested this car.
#143490
What you see Badoer as and what Ferrari sees Badoer as are not necessarily the same thing. Maybe they're doing it because it costs nothing. Maybe Kimi wanted no competition, and for some reason or other they wanted to please him. Maybe they don't want to try for wins since they think they won't get any anyway, and Badoer can "test" during the races, thereby circumventing the test ban. Come to think of it, it's a good avenue for more effective testing, and Badoer is certainly the man for it.
#143497
Maybe they don't want to try for wins since they think they won't get any anyway, and Badoer can "test" during the races, thereby circumventing the test ban. Come to think of it, it's a good avenue for more effective testing, and Badoer is certainly the man for it.

Very good point and insight.
#143512
What you see Badoer as and what Ferrari sees Badoer as are not necessarily the same thing. Maybe they're doing it because it costs nothing. Maybe Kimi wanted no competition, and for some reason or other they wanted to please him. Maybe they don't want to try for wins since they think they won't get any anyway, and Badoer can "test" during the races, thereby circumventing the test ban. Come to think of it, it's a good avenue for more effective testing, and Badoer is certainly the man for it.


Yes. And if MS had been able to race, they'd gotten the cake and eaten it, i.e., MS is good at car development/testing AND always good for points, podiums, wins.
#143533
Badoer to drive F60 at Fiorano

By Simon Strang Sunday, August 16th 2009, 18:25 GMT

Ferrari test driver Luca Badoer will be able to familiarise himself behind the wheel of one of the team's F60s ahead of his return to Formula 1 next weekend, when he drives the car for promotional purposes at Fiorano on Monday and Tuesday.

The 38-year-old Italian, who will stand in for the injured Felipe Massa in next weekend's European Grand Prix at Valencia, has had little experience of Ferrari's 2009 challenger given the strict ban on in-season testing this year.

Ferrari made it clear that Badoer was not partaking in a test but would be driving the car for 'promotional purposes' only.

The Italian will be restricted to using Bridgestone's ultra-hard promotional tyres and will not be able to exceed the 100km limit agreed by the teams on either day.

A statement on the team's website read: "While Felipe is recovering in Brazil, tomorrow the Scuderia will take up its work after a two-week break, which had been agreed with the other teams. Over the next three days the team will concentrate on the preparations for the races in Spain and Belgium, which will be held on the last two weekends in August.

"Next to Kimi Raikkonen, Luca Badoer will start into the races, debuting as an official Scuderia driver. Tomorrow and Tuesday Luca will be part of a video shooting for promotional purposes behind the F60's wheel at the Fiorano race track."

Badoer has been given the chance to race for Ferrari, after more than nine years of service as its loyal test driver, after Michael Schumacher was forced to give up on a high profile comeback because of a lingering neck injury.

The seven-time world champion spent a day driving an F2007 from Ferrari's historic Clienti department as part of his preparation, but the team was denied a request by some of its rivals to allow the German to test the F60.


Hmm....
#143541
Badoer to drive F60 at Fiorano

By Simon Strang Sunday, August 16th 2009, 18:25 GMT

Ferrari test driver Luca Badoer will be able to familiarise himself behind the wheel of one of the team's F60s ahead of his return to Formula 1 next weekend, when he drives the car for promotional purposes at Fiorano on Monday and Tuesday.

The 38-year-old Italian, who will stand in for the injured Felipe Massa in next weekend's European Grand Prix at Valencia, has had little experience of Ferrari's 2009 challenger given the strict ban on in-season testing this year.

Ferrari made it clear that Badoer was not partaking in a test but would be driving the car for 'promotional purposes' only.

The Italian will be restricted to using Bridgestone's ultra-hard promotional tyres and will not be able to exceed the 100km limit agreed by the teams on either day.

A statement on the team's website read: "While Felipe is recovering in Brazil, tomorrow the Scuderia will take up its work after a two-week break, which had been agreed with the other teams. Over the next three days the team will concentrate on the preparations for the races in Spain and Belgium, which will be held on the last two weekends in August.

"Next to Kimi Raikkonen, Luca Badoer will start into the races, debuting as an official Scuderia driver. Tomorrow and Tuesday Luca will be part of a video shooting for promotional purposes behind the F60's wheel at the Fiorano race track."

Badoer has been given the chance to race for Ferrari, after more than nine years of service as its loyal test driver, after Michael Schumacher was forced to give up on a high profile comeback because of a lingering neck injury.

The seven-time world champion spent a day driving an F2007 from Ferrari's historic Clienti department as part of his preparation, but the team was denied a request by some of its rivals to allow the German to test the F60.


Hmm....

:scratchchin:
#143548
I'm thinking that they would have had to pay MS. I can't say that with certainty though.

All that talk about MS possibly driving to have been a publicity stunt, we can never fully discount that, not that that's where I'm leaning.
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