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[Hexagram]

What interests me about this weekend. Is that every team knows exactly how impossible it is to overtake. They all know how important pole position is. So surely plenty of drivers will be 3 stopping. Will some 2 stop. How light can they push the cars. It'll be a battle of strategies this weekend.

Trulli is imo the best Qualifier in F1. If he gets pole and it stays dry during the race expect Jarno to get Toyota's first win. Which would be great to see!

[scotty]

Exact Order, Different Teams

In an ideal world!

I can definitely see those 3 being on the podium, however the likelihood is that Brawn's strategic advantage will see them through to victory. But if there's a safety car (which is almost a given), everything can change, look at last year... Hamilton took himself out of the running, then got a bit lucky when the safety car came out again! Same in '04, Schumacher was running third but got the lead (before he retired) with a lucky safety car.

[cap-dude]

Well we have to remember. The situation with Hamiliton last year won't happen again.

The current safety car rules allow drivers to pit during a safety car period. So take last year, Massa and Kubica would've pitted during the safety car and still came out ahead of Hamiliton during the safety car period. Of course they weren't allowed to do that last year. This year they can.

But all the same, no doubt we'll see a safety car this year, and it will still affect the order. Especially if a lot of drivers decide to 3 stop, whilst some 2 stop. Doubt we'll see overtaking, but it could be an interesting strategic battle. Hopefully anyway.

[Gaz]

Well we have to remember. The situation with Hamiliton last year won't happen again.

The current safety car rules allow drivers to pit during a safety car period. So take last year, Massa and Kubica would've pitted during the safety car and still came out ahead of Hamiliton during the safety car period. Of course they weren't allowed to do that last year. This year they can.

But all the same, no doubt we'll see a safety car this year, and it will still affect the order. Especially if a lot of drivers decide to 3 stop, whilst some 2 stop. Doubt we'll see overtaking, but it could be an interesting strategic battle. Hopefully anyway.

No Lewis would of still won look at the lead he developed while still carrying alot more fuel.

[EwanM]

Well we have to remember. The situation with Hamiliton last year won't happen again.

The current safety car rules allow drivers to pit during a safety car period. So take last year, Massa and Kubica would've pitted during the safety car and still came out ahead of Hamiliton during the safety car period. Of course they weren't allowed to do that last year. This year they can.

But all the same, no doubt we'll see a safety car this year, and it will still affect the order. Especially if a lot of drivers decide to 3 stop, whilst some 2 stop. Doubt we'll see overtaking, but it could be an interesting strategic battle. Hopefully anyway.

Not even that. In any other normal situation, Hamilton's trip into the barriers would have put him out of the race.

[scotty]

Well we have to remember. The situation with Hamiliton last year won't happen again.

The current safety car rules allow drivers to pit during a safety car period. So take last year, Massa and Kubica would've pitted during the safety car and still came out ahead of Hamiliton during the safety car period. Of course they weren't allowed to do that last year. This year they can.

But all the same, no doubt we'll see a safety car this year, and it will still affect the order. Especially if a lot of drivers decide to 3 stop, whilst some 2 stop. Doubt we'll see overtaking, but it could be an interesting strategic battle. Hopefully anyway.

No Lewis would of still won look at the lead he developed while still carrying alot more fuel.

Erm, you're not considering that he could only take the lead because the safety car eradicated the pretty large distances to all the guys in front. Therefore, he got lucky with the SC. But that's what happens at Monaco.

[Gaz]

Well we have to remember. The situation with Hamiliton last year won't happen again.

The current safety car rules allow drivers to pit during a safety car period. So take last year, Massa and Kubica would've pitted during the safety car and still came out ahead of Hamiliton during the safety car period. Of course they weren't allowed to do that last year. This year they can.

But all the same, no doubt we'll see a safety car this year, and it will still affect the order. Especially if a lot of drivers decide to 3 stop, whilst some 2 stop. Doubt we'll see overtaking, but it could be an interesting strategic battle. Hopefully anyway.

No Lewis would of still won look at the lead he developed while still carrying alot more fuel.

Erm, you're not considering that he could only take the lead because the safety car eradicated the pretty large distances to all the guys in front. Therefore, he got lucky with the SC. But that's what happens at Monaco.

without the sc he would of still been able to catch up then jump them at the pits.

he had a 45 sec lead or somthing before the final sc came out thats a pitstop and a bit.

[Jensonb]

Well we have to remember. The situation with Hamiliton last year won't happen again.

The current safety car rules allow drivers to pit during a safety car period. So take last year, Massa and Kubica would've pitted during the safety car and still came out ahead of Hamiliton during the safety car period. Of course they weren't allowed to do that last year. This year they can.

But all the same, no doubt we'll see a safety car this year, and it will still affect the order. Especially if a lot of drivers decide to 3 stop, whilst some 2 stop. Doubt we'll see overtaking, but it could be an interesting strategic battle. Hopefully anyway.

No Lewis would of still won look at the lead he developed while still carrying alot more fuel.

Erm, you're not considering that he could only take the lead because the safety car eradicated the pretty large distances to all the guys in front. Therefore, he got lucky with the SC. But that's what happens at Monaco.

without the sc he would of still been able to catch up then jump them at the pits.

he had a 45 sec lead or somthing before the final sc came out thats a pitstop and a bit.

You can't assume that would have happened, not around Monaco.

[Denthúl]

Well we have to remember. The situation with Hamiliton last year won't happen again.

The current safety car rules allow drivers to pit during a safety car period. So take last year, Massa and Kubica would've pitted during the safety car and still came out ahead of Hamiliton during the safety car period. Of course they weren't allowed to do that last year. This year they can.

But all the same, no doubt we'll see a safety car this year, and it will still affect the order. Especially if a lot of drivers decide to 3 stop, whilst some 2 stop. Doubt we'll see overtaking, but it could be an interesting strategic battle. Hopefully anyway.

No Lewis would of still won look at the lead he developed while still carrying alot more fuel.

Erm, you're not considering that he could only take the lead because the safety car eradicated the pretty large distances to all the guys in front. Therefore, he got lucky with the SC. But that's what happens at Monaco.

without the sc he would of still been able to catch up then jump them at the pits.

he had a 45 sec lead or somthing before the final sc came out thats a pitstop and a bit.

You're only changing a single variable there, which would never be the case. A whole bunch of things would have been different under the current safety car rules, which means that all strategies would have changed. It's entirely possible that Lewis would just end up stuck behind the then similarly fuelled cars of Massa and Kubica. You can't look at it as though only one thing would be different.

[Gaz]

Well we have to remember. The situation with Hamiliton last year won't happen again.

The current safety car rules allow drivers to pit during a safety car period. So take last year, Massa and Kubica would've pitted during the safety car and still came out ahead of Hamiliton during the safety car period. Of course they weren't allowed to do that last year. This year they can.

But all the same, no doubt we'll see a safety car this year, and it will still affect the order. Especially if a lot of drivers decide to 3 stop, whilst some 2 stop. Doubt we'll see overtaking, but it could be an interesting strategic battle. Hopefully anyway.

No Lewis would of still won look at the lead he developed while still carrying alot more fuel.

Erm, you're not considering that he could only take the lead because the safety car eradicated the pretty large distances to all the guys in front. Therefore, he got lucky with the SC. But that's what happens at Monaco.

without the sc he would of still been able to catch up then jump them at the pits.

he had a 45 sec lead or somthing before the final sc came out thats a pitstop and a bit.

You're only changing a single variable there, which would never be the case. A whole bunch of things would have been different under the current safety car rules, which means that all strategies would have changed. It's entirely possible that Lewis would just end up stuck behind the then similarly fuelled cars of Massa and Kubica. You can't look at it as though only one thing would be different.

True but it was lewis pace that won that not so much the stratagy.

[scotty]

without the sc he would of still been able to catch up then jump them at the pits.

he had a 45 sec lead or somthing before the final sc came out thats a pitstop and a bit.

I disagree, there's the fact that he wouldn't have had track position and could have gotten held up. Similar to Alonso in Singapore actually, except Alonso's pit wasn't forced. It's clear as day that the safety car and the timing of it massively helped him, therefore he was lucky. Quite simple.

Either way this further adds to my original point about the safety car and track position being absolutely key.

[Denthúl]

Well we have to remember. The situation with Hamiliton last year won't happen again.

The current safety car rules allow drivers to pit during a safety car period. So take last year, Massa and Kubica would've pitted during the safety car and still came out ahead of Hamiliton during the safety car period. Of course they weren't allowed to do that last year. This year they can.

But all the same, no doubt we'll see a safety car this year, and it will still affect the order. Especially if a lot of drivers decide to 3 stop, whilst some 2 stop. Doubt we'll see overtaking, but it could be an interesting strategic battle. Hopefully anyway.

No Lewis would of still won look at the lead he developed while still carrying alot more fuel.

Erm, you're not considering that he could only take the lead because the safety car eradicated the pretty large distances to all the guys in front. Therefore, he got lucky with the SC. But that's what happens at Monaco.

without the sc he would of still been able to catch up then jump them at the pits.

he had a 45 sec lead or somthing before the final sc came out thats a pitstop and a bit.

You're only changing a single variable there, which would never be the case. A whole bunch of things would have been different under the current safety car rules, which means that all strategies would have changed. It's entirely possible that Lewis would just end up stuck behind the then similarly fuelled cars of Massa and Kubica. You can't look at it as though only one thing would be different.

True but it was lewis pace that won that not so much the stratagy.

Once again, you're not considering just how many things would be different. It's no good having pace if you're going to be held up.

[scotty]

Shall we have a bet/sweepstake on how many front wings get destroyed at the first corner?

[Gaz]

Shall we have a bet/sweepstake on how many front wings get destroyed at the first corner?

How about a sweepstake on how many times Williams will pit to change the front wing?

[scotty]

Shall we have a bet/sweepstake on how many front wings get destroyed at the first corner?

How about a sweepstake on how many times Williams will pit to change the front wing?

Why Williams, cause of Nakajima? He'll just put it into the wall anyway, so he won't need to pit for a new wing!