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[texasmr2]

Nice to see that we are back on-topic .

[racechick]

to be fair you did ask for that with the mummy daddy comment.

I most certainly did not deserve to be called a T**t !!!!!!!1

Is that such a bad word. Sorry I am not English and I have been told of various meanings of the word. If it is extremely bad and offensive then I was not aware as my comment was not supposed to be that much of an isnult. If I have offended you then it has been misunderstanding due to the fact that English isn't my first language. My appologies to you then.

I dont think AKR meant a bad thing. Twat and twit are very confusing. I thought they both meant idiot, and i know lots of other people who thouight the same. And all are English speakers! Now i know twat is a bad word, so best not say it (but in my head it just seems like idiot )

[darwin dali]

I don't think retrospectively... well I lie, most of my academic life is based on that...

Hm, lying? A fine academic you are

[EwanM]

I don't think retrospectively... well I lie, most of my academic life is based on that...

Hm, lying? A fine academic you are

HEH

[Jensonb]

I don't think retrospectively... well I lie, most of my academic life is based on that...

Hm, lying? A fine academic you are

He was misled into it

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[darwin dali]

to be fair you did ask for that with the mummy daddy comment.

I most certainly did not deserve to be called a T**t !!!!!!!1

Is that such a bad word. Sorry I am not English and I have been told of various meanings of the word. If it is extremely bad and offensive then I was not aware as my comment was not supposed to be that much of an isnult. If I have offended you then it has been misunderstanding due to the fact that English isn't my first language. My appologies to you then.

Hm, so you were 'misled' by the English language to use this word - I seeeeeeee

[billindenver]

to be fair you did ask for that with the mummy daddy comment.

I most certainly did not deserve to be called a T**t !!!!!!!1

Is that such a bad word. Sorry I am not English and I have been told of various meanings of the word. If it is extremely bad and offensive then I was not aware as my comment was not supposed to be that much of an isnult. If I have offended you then it has been misunderstanding due to the fact that English isn't my first language. My appologies to you then.

Hm, so you were 'misled' by the English language to use this word - I seeeeeeee

[Bovvaboy]

The FIA suck. What sort of punishment is this? What message is it sending?

As some have said it would be bad for the FIA and FOM etc to actually suspend McLaren for 3 races. With Ferrari off form and diffuser gate they don't need any more negativity. You could look at this as them being lenient to McLaren but at the end of the day they (the FIA) have not stood up for the rules of the sport and enforced them properly. Another backroom deal done by the looks and its turning this sport into a joke.

You have to have standards and principles as a governing body of a sport so that everyone knows there are consequences for a rule breach. Are they now saying you can blatantly lie to the stewards and get a suspended 3 race sentence IF caught, or does it depend on who you are and your perceived value to the sport at the time of the offence?

The FIA got what they wanted here......Love or Hate Ron Dennis the guy stood up for what he believed, voiced his opinion on the FIA, and over the years became a stone in the FIA's shoe. Now they have gotten rid of him but at the expense of their integrity (which there wasn't much of).

[texasmr2]

The FIA suck. What sort of punishment is this? What message is it sending?

As some have said it would be bad for the FIA and FOM etc to actually suspend McLaren for 3 races. With Ferrari off form and diffuser gate they don't need any more negativity. You could look at this as them being lenient to McLaren but at the end of the day they (the FIA) have not stood up for the rules of the sport and enforced them properly. Another backroom deal done by the looks and its turning this sport into a joke.

You have to have standards and principles as a governing body of a sport so that everyone knows there are consequences for a rule breach. Are they now saying you can blatantly lie to the stewards and get a suspended 3 race sentence IF caught, or does it depend on who you are and your perceived value to the sport at the time of the offence?

The FIA got what they wanted here......Love or Hate Ron Dennis the guy stood up for what he believed, voiced his opinion on the FIA, and over the years became a stone in the FIA's shoe. Now they have gotten rid of him but at the expense of their integrity (which there wasn't much of).

[AKR]

Slovenian not Slovakian. Difference. I am an Italian citizen. How I got to that doesn't matter. My papers say I am Italian so get over your deny me it.

How do i know there not fake, like a Monopoly passport?

I'm sorry but if your going to make bold claims that "Ferrari is my National Team" i'm going to have to have some concrete proof of your nationality before you can substanciate them.


Btw what do you think the result for Spain will be i think Lewis will get the 1st win 2009 win for Mclaren followed by Vettle then Button.

Ferrrari might just hold on to get p17 unless the cars stop on track in a smokey kers failure again.

Well I am in aforeign counrty travelling on that Italian passport. I think customs could pick out a fake passport pal. As for Spain. Hamilton keep dreaming. McLaren will do nothing. Ferrari will improve and do better than McLaren because they are better and Brawn, Red Bull and Toyota will dominate.

Your not a very good Fan of Ferrari then are you wanting other teams to win just to stop Mclaren.

When lewis Wins in Spain will you admit your wrong?

I make some mistakes but I am never wrong. Lewis ist Schaisse!

[AKR]

to be fair you did ask for that with the mummy daddy comment.

I most certainly did not deserve to be called a T**t !!!!!!!1

Is that such a bad word. Sorry I am not English and I have been told of various meanings of the word. If it is extremely bad and offensive then I was not aware as my comment was not supposed to be that much of an isnult. If I have offended you then it has been misunderstanding due to the fact that English isn't my first language. My appologies to you then.

I dont think AKR meant a bad thing. Twat and twit are very confusing. I thought they both meant idiot, and i know lots of other people who thouight the same. And all are English speakers! Now i know twat is a bad word, so best not say it (but in my head it just seems like idiot )

I asked someone today and they said it is equivent to the c word. No way I said that to him. Anyway thanks for sticking uo for me Anna although he has accepted my appology so I am sure he knows I didn't mean it or didn't undertand the word's actual meaning properly.

[AKR]

I read an article on planetf1.com today that suggest McLaren escaped any real punishment because Ron Dennis stepped down. Had Ron Dennis not stepped stepped down, the punishment most likely would of been applied. What a joke. How does Dennis stepping down justify that Trulli would of been robbed of his podium had McLaren gotten away with this. I am not really interested in the FIA's personal vendetta towards Ron Dennis. Fact is McLaren should of been punished. But you know cheaters will always be cheats. Hopefully McLaren will do it again in the 12 month period and get caught so the suspended sentance becomes a real penalty.

[bud]

[MAD MAX]

I asked someone today and they said it is equivent to the c word. No way I said that to him. Anyway thanks for sticking uo for me Anna although he has accepted my appology so I am sure he knows I didn't mean it or didn't undertand the word's actual meaning properly.

Its forgotten

[billindenver]

I read an article on planetf1.com today that suggest McLaren escaped any real punishment because Ron Dennis stepped down. Had Ron Dennis not stepped stepped down, the punishment most likely would of been applied. What a joke. How does Dennis stepping down justify that Trulli would of been robbed of his podium had McLaren gotten away with this. I am not really interested in the FIA's personal vendetta towards Ron Dennis. Fact is McLaren should of been punished. But you know cheaters will always be cheats. Hopefully McLaren will do it again in the 12 month period and get caught so the suspended sentance becomes a real penalty.

I think it is fairly well documented in here that I am no fan of Hamilton. However, I have in the past been a McLaren fan and hope to be so in the future again. Dennis, while certainly skilled, was also somewhat of a moron. He intentionally got sideways with the governing body of his sport pretty much as often as he could manage it and his team payed the consequences. Saying the FIA had it out for Ron Dennis is only half the story....he had it out for the FIA and deserved their dislike. For the past several years, McLaren has been a shadow of its former self. Yes, they won a WDC, barely.....and only after stealing secrets from Ferrari, getting caught, losing a WDC while looking foolish, the Alonso/Hamilton fiasco, a two time WDC breaking his contract and leaving their team etc etc. McLaren's leadership quality has fallen drastically over the past several years and while they have incurred the wrath of the FIA, they have never once been undeserving. Ron is a legend in the sport, but he has lost his management focus. He has allowed a once stellar team to fall into drama after drama. He has allowed his driver and that driver's father to direct team actions through the media. He had to go. A team with a weak leader is a weak team.

It is my hope that his replacement can get a firm hand on the reigns and bring the team back to what it once was. That will require smacking Hamilton senior upside his melon and telling him to shut the Eff up. Which other drivers manager is so constantly opening his hole and spewing so much garbage to the media? He is a manager, keep silent and manage your damn driver. Keep Hamilton juniors attitude in check and keep him focused on not being such a twat (mad max, cover your sensitive eyes). I would consider banning the idiot from the garage area (hence the camera) for good...maybe that will chill his media attention fever.

McLaren has the money and the resources to catch the front of the grid this year...Brawn simply can not spend that kind of cash and I doubt that RedBull can either. Ferrari seem to have a worse leadership problem than McLaren has had, so I doubt they will recover at all this year. The only question is, can new leadership keep McLaren focused? Whitmarsh needs to smack both of his drivers around....one of them needs to shut up and focus and the other needs to wake up and drive. Any more team drama that attracts the FIA's attention this year and McLaren is liable to lose sponsorship and spiral to the back of the pack (where they can battle with Ferrari for 18th place).