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[EwanM]

amazing qualifying, had to dip in and out because of the football but still top draw for excitement. hopefully it'll rain tomorrow, then the race really will be carnage. I'm expecting to see Lewis machete his way through the field, as long as he doesn't get involved in a crash on the first corner (perfectly likely if the conditions are like today). Massa was lacklustre to be honest, he should've been gunning for that pole position, and the fact he couldn't get anywhere near is yet another indication that he's average in the wet. Hamilton and the team made a bad decision, had he gone out on extremes in the first place in Q2 everything would've been different I'm sure, but no use crying over spilt milk. He's dug himself into a hole, and now he has to prove his class yet again.

Congratulations to Vettel and Bourdais, fantastic performances in the Toro Rossos.

Can't wait for the race tomorrow, could be chaos.

FM is driving for the championship, so no need to risk too much in quali when his main rivals didn't even make q3 - what good would it be to have to change the car or get it fixed or whatever after a spin in q3, huh? He drove very intelligently!

LOL YOUR Massa may just be world champion now

[Hanwombat]

AH HEIKKI







Vettel or Kovi both deserved Pole, 'tis ashame though it wasn't HEIKKI!

Nevertheless, immense qualifying, The top 10 is just WOWZA

Congrates to Toro Rosso and Toyota

YAY HEIKKI, now all you need to do is get past Vettel at first corner

As for Hamilton, bad bad decision by him and the team, but will be nice to see the battle between him and Kimi through the pack

[darwin dali]

AH HEIKKI







Vettel or Kovi both deserved Pole, 'tis ashame though it wasn't HEIKKI!

Nevertheless, immense qualifying, The top 10 is just WOWZA

Congrates to Toro Rosso and Toyota

YAY HEIKKI, now all you need to do is get past Vettel at first corner

As for Hamilton, bad bad decision by him and the team, but will be nice to see the battle between him and Kimi through the pack

KR and LH crash together and are out - KR still claiming not to be support driver for FM

[Rivelution]

Does anyone know where I can watch a replay? I'm so sad that I missed it.

[scotty]

Does anyone know where I can watch a replay? I'm so sad that I missed it.

there's a torrent for it on torrentz.com...

[Rivelution]

is it safe?

[darwin dali]

is it safe?

Put a condom on or you get kudies!

[al4x]

is it safe?

Put a condom on or you get kudies!

i good practice for anything that

[Mikep99]

Hammy is not out of it today but I think he should heed Jackie's words.

Lewis Hamilton slumps to 15th place - and Jackie Stewart sounds warning
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/motorsport/2008/09/13/lewis-hamilton-slumps-to-15th-place-and-jackie-stewart-sounds-warning-115875-20735588/
From BYRON YOUNG at Monza 13/09/2008

JACKIE STEWART warned Lewis Hamilton: "Don’t be a hero," in today’s Italian Grand Prix after McLaren’s ace racer torpedoed his own world title dreams with a disastrous qualifying gamble.

Hamilton, 23, who has performed so many miracles in the rain, chose the wrong tyres and was caught out by the changing conditions to start today’s race at Monza from a career-worst 15th place.

Stewart, who won two world titles at Monza, said: "Lewis is in the middle of the pack for the start – exactly where you don’t want to be.

"It’s very important he gets good solid points to secure his championship position and doesn’t worry about winning. You don’t need to be the hero of the day – you want to be the hero at the end of the season."

After setting one of the best lap times in first qualifying, Hamilton failed to fire in a fast lap at the start of the second thanks largely to an inexplicable gamble to opt for different tyres to the rest of the field.

When the fine drizzle suddenly turned to an all-out downpour with his car still anchored in 15th, his fate was sealed.

To make matters worse there was another brush with officialdom to follow the controversies of Belgium.

Valuable minutes of drier running time were lost when his car was selected for one of the random pitlane weight checks as he rushed back to change tyres.
"I suppose it’s random," said Hamilton with a wry smile. "The whole time we were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

"We took a little gamble. We made the wrong decision on the tyres. We were bound to make a mistake eventually.""

When pressed on why he took such a risk with the championship on a knife-edge Hamilton replied: "I don’t have an answer for that."

Equally perplexing was the fact that Hamilton and his engineer Phil Prew were not over-ruled by the phalanx of veterans at Britain’s top team.

Being Lewis Hamilton, though, he refused to give up and won more fans with an heroic attempt to rewrite the script as he thundered through the lashing rain, seeking salvation.

But there was none to be found and he was lucky to escape unscathed after his twitching McLaren finally got away from him at Ascari chicane doing 160mph and he spun.

A new star was born as Sebastian Vettel became the youngest driver to start from pole aged 21 and 73 days as Italy’s other team, Toro Rosso, overshadowed Ferrari with their own engine.

No matter what it is going to be a hell of a race & still anyone could win.

[onelapdown]

Being Lewis Hamilton, though, he refused to give up and won more fans with an heroic attempt to rewrite the script as he thundered through the lashing rain, seeking salvation.

Euh?* I'm as big a fan of Lewis as anyone but I was NOT impressed by his performance in the second session - even allowing for the circumstances.

That does bear out what I was saying on another thread about Hamilton losing time for a weight check though.

EDIT:*Oh, it's from the Daily Mirror. That explains a lot

[Jabberwocky]

think we should watch button, if he is on a wet setup

[bud]

Hamilton was randomly selected to check the weight of his car

[The Snowman]

how long has the "joker engine" rule been going????
Or is this an ITALIAN invention???

[Jabberwocky]

the joker engine rule came in at the start of the year mate

[The Snowman]

the joker engine rule came in at the start of the year mate

thanx for info don´t always have time this year