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By Gilles 27
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I saw every Schumacher incident (yeah, even Aus '94) as it happened, the press made no difference to me! :P


Well yeh me too. and there was a discussion with valid points made by each side following all of Schumacher's infamous incidents. These nuances are omitted from any reference in the press to these incidents these days as they do not fit the desired narrative of 'Schumacher is a villain' or for the more measured publications 'Schumacher has a flaw in his psychology'.
I don't believe at all that he behaved any better or worse than a number of other determined and aggressive drivers, past and present.


I don't think it is a flaw, it is the over developed "win at all cost" instinct. I am sure that anyone that is that focused on winning would do it. mark my words give Lewis 5 years and he will have some similar type of history as well


No, I don't think it's a flaw. The likes of Nigel Roebuck and Tony Dron seem to think it is, that was my point really. I agree entirely on Hamilton, when I posted, I was compiling a mental list of F1 drivers who in my opinion are/were no better or worse than Michael for aggressive and unsporting driving. On this list was Lewis Hamilton, Juan Pablo Montoya, Jack Brabham, Giuseppe Farina, Ayrton Senna, Rene Arnoux, Parnelli Jones...
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By Jamie
#186984
No I wouldnt want his arse kicked, he's one of the goodies......there is better sport out there :twisted:


MS :twisted:


Oh yes :twisted::twisted:


In your dreams, MS gonna show the kids how it's done one last time...


:thumbup:

No, I don't think it's a flaw. The likes of Nigel Roebuck and Tony Dron seem to think it is, that was my point really. I agree entirely on Hamilton, when I posted, I was compiling a mental list of F1 drivers who in my opinion are/were no better or worse than Michael for aggressive and unsporting driving. On this list was Lewis Hamilton, Juan Pablo Montoya, Jack Brabham, Giuseppe Farina, Ayrton Senna, Rene Arnoux, Parnelli Jones...

Alonso has....
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By Gilles 27
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Alonso's on-track conduct has always been pretty good imo. Feel free to correct me as I'm struggling to recall any particularly infamous on-track incidents featuring Alonso, which of course means that there may be some but I have forgotten about them...
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By Jamie
#186991
I mean that i believe he can be pretty angry. I believe he could have a win or die attitude
By Gaz
#186998
Alonso's on-track conduct has always been pretty good imo. Feel free to correct me as I'm struggling to recall any particularly infamous on-track incidents featuring Alonso, which of course means that there may be some but I have forgotten about them...


Hungary 07 - vs Lewis

USA 07 - vs Lewis

Spain 07 vs Massa (more massa tho)

He was a little hothead in 2007 in otherwords :P
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By Gilles 27
#187001
hmmm :scratchchin: Hungary is definitely one I'd forgotten about. That was petulant more than anything imo. I still wouldn't put him in THE LIST. He's not driven anybody off the road yet has he? Kamui Kobayashi is another one! although in his case I'm pretty sure it was incompetence.
By Gaz
#187002
hmmm :scratchchin: Hungary is definitely one I'd forgotten about. That was petulant more than anything imo. I still wouldn't put him in THE LIST. He's not driven anybody off the road yet has he? Kamui Kobayashi is another one! although in his case I'm pretty sure it was incompetence.


Yeh, He's not done a Schui no he's a pretty honest racer silverstone 2009 is a great example of this he donsn't particularly like Lewis but they both raced fair and square and as if it was for 1st place.

I respect him as a racing driver, but somtimes he does become abit to vocal.
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By Gilles 27
#187003
He's a bit of a whinger for sure. His temper has cost him during races in the past too, i remember him crashing out of the 2005 Canadian GP because he was stuck behind Fisichella...
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By EwanM
#187012
He's a bit of a whinger for sure. His temper has cost him during races in the past too, i remember him crashing out of the 2005 Canadian GP because he was stuck behind Fisichella...


The greats are all whingers.

Whinger = Winner
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By Robert182
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Lewis :thumbup::clap:
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By racechick
#187050
Lewis :thumbup::clap:

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By The Ram
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So Button has completed his last day of testing. :clap: Good job.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81770

"Our race run was great," he said. "We didn't get any red flags until the last couple of laps of the last stint, so the boys did a great job with reliability, but also with pit stops.

"We went from having high fuel in the car to going out and doing some low fuel runs, and it is very difficult because you haven't done any set-up work. The day was too short for me really. I would rather have another day of testing.

"I know what I would do to the car to improve it, and hopefully Lewis [Hamilton] will be testing a few things that will be useful tomorrow.

"Because out of the box, with a new package, to be as consistent as we are and the pace we have, I am happy. I don't think we are at our maximum yet, but we will do our best tomorrow to get the maximum out of the car."


Now it's time for the showstopper. :wink:
By Mika_1
#187427
I would have to say Lewis because I don't belive that had jenson been in the Mclaren last year he would of picked up a race victory with a car that was 2 seconds off the pace to begin with. But Jenson's drive in Sao Paulo proved that he can drive against the odds too, but Lewis I think will be the quicker of the pair, hopefully we don't get an Alonso-Lewis repeat
By JAY_F1
#187468
hopefully we don't get an Alonso-Lewis repeat


I don't think we will, Jenson is a different sort of character to Alonso, and like Ron Dennis said recently, Prost - Senna and
Lewis - Alonso were from different cultures.

Of course there will be rivalry on track, but it will be the press who will try to make an off track rivalry. IMO if there's going to be fireworks off track, it will be at Ferrari, two competitive Latinos who both want to win.

And as we saw at the Nurburgring in 07, there's no love lost between Alonso and Felipe.
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By Balkan_scouser
#187516
Who cares which one will be quicker!! :twisted:
And it will be Hamilton. Jenson should go join Backstreet Boys or something.
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