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Button Vs Hamilton?

Hamilton By a Huge Margin
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26%
Button By A Huge Margin
No votes
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Hamilton Just Ahead
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52%
Button Just Ahead
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13%
Pretty Equal
2
9%
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By texasmr2
#184075
Every single driver on the grid has had luck, don't make it an issue with Lewis because you don't like him. :nono:

:rofl:

Shall i continue..... :banghead::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Please don't :wink: !
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By darwin dali
#184077
So yes I guess Im over defensive where he's concerned. Best just to ignore me when I start :D

Aye guv'nor :thumbup:
By Ineluke
#184085
Lewis didn't just appear in a F1 car for McLaren over night,he earned that place through winning titles and determination.If you want to talk spoon fed then Jenson Button had more of a head start than Lewis with his dad being in motor sport in the 70s. As matter of fact John Button was well know in the moto sport circle having been a rally driver himself,he opened doors for Jenson. The only thing Lewis done was approach Ron Dennis and say to him "I want to race for you one day...I want to race for McLaren." this was after he had won the British Championship.

Before Lewis stepped into a McLaren car he had already won Formula Renault championships-Formula Three EuroSeries-GP2 Series. He also raced Karts for Formula A with his team mate being Nico Rosberg,lol if anyone was spoon fed and had a head starts, then it's Nico.

Every single driver in F1 has experience some luck don't make it a major issue with Lewis when their are other like your Hero Jenson who have had massive heads starts. Another thing you need to stop making out is JB has always had bad cars,well that's not true is it,remember Williams?

Jensons problem was he though he had made it and decided to act out his playboy fantasy,that was his problem,yes he had a bad time at Honda but that was not always the case.

You are getting mixed up with networking/marketing and luck

That's not luck it's brilliant marketing from his dad.

If anything it's Alonso that has a similar experience coming from a poor family and his old man working hard to realise his dreams and his sons.

If you are going to tell it at least do your homework.

Every single driver on the grid has had luck, don't make it an issue with Lewis because you don't like him. :nono:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Hamilton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenson_Button

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_alonso

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nico_Rosberg

Oh, and JB will get his bottom handed to him by Lweis.

Shall i continue..... :banghead::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

You can't read, can you?

John Button raced in rally cross. Jenson raced single seaters - and history shows Jenson didn't get any doors opened for him by his father. You're asserting it, but it didn't happen. Lewis meanwhile was lucky enough to be able to ask Ron Dennis for help. Ron took a look, liked what he saw, and gave Lewis the help he needed to make best use of his considerable talent.

I never said Lewis was immediately whisked into F1 without doing anything. I said the opposite. Don't sit there and tell me to check my history when you evidently know jack and squat about Sorenson's (And Jack just left town) and you're not even bothering to read the points you claim to be responding to.

Next, I'M NOT TAKING ISSUE WITH LEWIS. How do you not get this? I've reiterated TIME AND TIME AGAIN: Every driver needs luck AND talent. I even said the same of Jenson. Are you being stupid on purpose? NOBODY HERE IS INSULTING LEWIS. On several occasions I called him enormously talented, and at least once the fastest driver in F1.

You clearly don't know a damn thing about the last ten years of F1, because if you did, you'd know the Williams was decent in 2000, but not a race winner. You also clearly aren't reading what I'm saying because: I specifically mentioned that the Williams was a decent car. Also, this crap about the playboy fantasy, first: every driver does that. Look at Nico's website, look at Lewis's girlfriend, look at Kimi's whole life. They're young and rich, they like to have their fun (And given the danger of what they're doing we should cut them some slack. Also, James Hunt was always like that and nobody ever gives him s**t for it). Second: I specifically mentioned that Jenson entered F1 too early and lacked maturity at the time - I even called out the media for claiming at the time he was "enormously mature".

FINALLY, your utterly dunder-headed conclusion is that "every driver on the grid has luck" and that I'm "[taking] issue with Lewis because I don't like him". READ BEFORE POSTING. Every driver on the gird has luck was the the very freaking point I was making. I mean SERIOUSLY. What is the matter with you? It's like you want to look stupid. Furthermore I don't dislike Lewis. I couldn't stand him in 2007/8 when he was arrogant and overexposed, but he's matured and cleaned up his racing since then so I don't have a problem with him any more.

For the love of god Ineluke. Lewis is the fastest driver on the grid and a Champion. He does not need you leaping to defend him from every imagined slight against him you think you read. Next time you decide to lecture people about "doing their homework", make sure you've actually done yours and you read the content to which you are responding.


One. i think it's you who doesn't know what he is talking about,Rally cross is a moto sport,right?

Two. Don't even compared Jenson Button playboy days to Lewis having a steady girlfriend,no comparison at all. Jenson was always in the papers in his earlier F1 days,always the playboy showing off to the press,even going so far as dumping his then pregnant girlfriend,he was a waster and for you to even compared his antics to Lewis having a steady girlfriend just sums your true intentions up.

Three. Jenson has had many chances he choose to be the darling of the press until that backfire.

Four . make no mistake i am fully aware of F1 over the last ten years,perhaps it's you who really needs to look back at Buttons career and see that it's been a joke up until last year.

Now, are you just stupid or our your personal feeling getting in the way of the truth.

Again for someone who actually uses his hero's forum name you really don't know much about Jenson Button, do you.

Again "do your homework."

Oh, and just for you "be careful what you wish for"

Ross Brawn save Jenson Buttons bottom , without the "luck" he had in winning last year he would still be the F1 reject that he was up until that point. :yikes:

Jenson Button Pre- 2009

http://www.f1rejects.com/centrale/submi ... index.html
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By Jensonb
#184098
One. i think it's you who doesn't know what he is talking about,Rally cross is a moto sport,right?

Two. Don't even compared Jenson Button playboy days to Lewis having a steady girlfriend,no comparison at all. Jenson was always in the papers in his earlier F1 days,always the playboy showing off to the press,even going so far as dumping his then pregnant girlfriend,he was a waster and for you to even compared his antics to Lewis having a steady girlfriend just sums your true intentions up.

Three. Jenson has had many chances he choose to be the darling of the press until that backfire.

Four . make no mistake i am fully aware of F1 over the last ten years,perhaps it's you who really needs to look back at Buttons career and see that it's been a joke up until last year.

Now, are you just stupid or our your personal feeling getting in the way of the truth.

Again for someone who actually uses his hero's forum name you really don't know much about Jenson Button, do you.

Again "do your homework."

Oh, and just for you "be careful what you wish for"

Ross Brawn save Jenson Buttons bottom , without the "luck" he had in winning last year he would still be the F1 reject that he was up until that point. :yikes:

Jenson Button Pre- 2009

http://www.f1rejects.com/centrale/submi ... index.html

Mods...Seriously...This guy's just looking for a fight. I'm not sure how much more of this crap I can take. He's barely responding to the substance, and he's ignoring the premise. He's just turned this around into a Jenson-bashing session & keeps ignoring the central point. It's trolling.
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By headless
#184100
One. i think it's you who doesn't know what he is talking about,Rally cross is a moto sport,right?

Two. Don't even compared Jenson Button playboy days to Lewis having a steady girlfriend,no comparison at all. Jenson was always in the papers in his earlier F1 days,always the playboy showing off to the press,even going so far as dumping his then pregnant girlfriend,he was a waster and for you to even compared his antics to Lewis having a steady girlfriend just sums your true intentions up.

Three. Jenson has had many chances he choose to be the darling of the press until that backfire.

Four . make no mistake i am fully aware of F1 over the last ten years,perhaps it's you who really needs to look back at Buttons career and see that it's been a joke up until last year.

Now, are you just stupid or our your personal feeling getting in the way of the truth.

Again for someone who actually uses his hero's forum name you really don't know much about Jenson Button, do you.

Again "do your homework."

Oh, and just for you "be careful what you wish for"

Ross Brawn save Jenson Buttons bottom , without the "luck" he had in winning last year he would still be the F1 reject that he was up until that point. :yikes:

Jenson Button Pre- 2009

http://www.f1rejects.com/centrale/submi ... index.html

Mods...Seriously...This guy's just looking for a fight. I'm not sure how much more of this crap I can take. He's barely responding to the substance, and he's ignoring the premise. He's just turned this around into a Jenson-bashing session & keeps ignoring the central point. It's trolling.


And your crying off, crying out of the discussion now.
By Gaz
#184102
Two. Don't even compared Jenson Button playboy days to Lewis having a steady girlfriend,no comparison at all. Jenson was always in the papers in his earlier F1 days,always the playboy showing off to the press,even going so far as dumping his then pregnant girlfriend,he was a waster and for you to even compared his antics to Lewis having a steady girlfriend just sums your true intentions up.


Yeh Jenson acted like abit of a playboy for the first few years of his career, he knows it you know it.

He was 2 years Younger than Lewis when he started though and not as well manged it went to his head.

Three. Jenson has had many chances he choose to be the darling of the press until that backfire.


Who gives a crap whhat he's like with the press anyway its about him scoring points and getting wins thats all the proper fans car about.

So far you've just sounded like a regular reader of OK! magazine.

Four . make no mistake i am fully aware of F1 over the last ten years,perhaps it's you who really needs to look back at Buttons career and see that it's been a joke up until last year.


Yeh funny that you missed off his 2004 year? he definitly turned a corner then but you choose to ingnore that.

Now, are you just stupid or our your personal feeling getting in the way of the truth.

Again for someone who actually uses his hero's forum name you really don't know much about Jenson Button, do you.

Again "do your homework."

Oh, and just for you "be careful what you wish for"



Spoken like a true hyporcite you just picking at the bits of Jenson's Career that work with your argument and then have ago at JensonB for doing the same?

How about you take your own advice, "i've watched F1 for the last 10 years" - my bottom mate.




Ross Brawn save Jenson Buttons bottom , without the "luck" he had in winning last year he would still be the F1 reject that he was up until that point. :yikes:


Wasn't any "luck" mate he was the best driver in the best car you don't win 6 races out of luck he struggled mid season perhaps the pressure got to him on top of the other teams catching up.

But he still drove like a champion in Brazil and put on a good show in Abu Dhabi.

Jenson Button Pre- 2001

http://www.f1rejects.com/centrale/submi ... index.html


Look at when that article was written mate.

Article written by Liz Shaw © 2001
California, U.S.A.


Its a NINE year old Article about Jenson's first year in F1 when he was twenty he's thirty years old now he's acted like a playboy for a good 7-8years now.
Last edited by Gaz on 07 Feb 10, 18:27, edited 1 time in total.
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By Jensonb
#184103
And your crying off, crying out of the discussion now.

It's not a discussion, it's a flame war. People, including you, have criticised me for not pulling out of those in the past.
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By racechick
#184104
You know I think we'd best drop this because facts can be twisted whichever way you want. Fact is we will all have different opinions so lets look forward to the new season and see who comes out best on the track.
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By headless
#184108
And your crying off, crying out of the discussion now.

It's not a discussion, it's a flame war. People, including you, have criticised me for not pulling out of those in the past.

Me, nah it was Phil
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