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[Dutchcruijff]

Vettle was out front prob abit easier without spray and i'm sorry Monaco, Silverstone and Monaza (15 to 7th) Hamilton is as good as Vettle if not better in the wet.

In your wildest dreams.

But Vettle was excellent today but i don't think he'll go to Ferrai i think he'll stay with RBR or got to BMW

He'll go to Ferrari because he will want to follow in the footsteps of Micheal Schumacher. Just becasue of what is and will be a very short period in F1 history where Ferrari are doing so bad and no namers like RBR are doing so well means absoultely nothing. Ferrari will bounce back and Vettel will want to be with Ferrari. Schumacher will also undoubtly influence this. You will see in time that what you think is of no meaning as Vettel to Ferrari will one day be inevitable.

"No-namers"

Ferrari - 0 points
Red Bull Racing - 19.5 points

[Tony_sa]

anyway Kiki ... me gotto go .. my postcount is getting to high and dont want to come accross like me have none else to do with me time.
cheers 4 eers !!

[Frosty]

ferrari has their own set of problems and we all know why and thats the same reason Brawn is doing so well.

One element of why Brawn is fast is the Diffuser but I would also point out that Red Bull are a lot faster than Ferrari and only just slower than Brawn and they haven't got a double decker diffuser!

[Gaz]

Kiki - I was gonna tell the guys not to pick on you and I know you can handle em. I must say I dont like you attitude and feelings about Massa.
Thats really not fair. ferrari has their own set of problems and we all know why and thats the same reason Brawn is doing so well. Ferrari was so set on beating Mcheaters last year they seem for have missed the fact the world wasnt gonna end after the season so never bothered to spend time developing the 2009 car. Now with all their crap you come down on Massa - who had a good chance of getting on the podium today - with a s*** car with old technology.
Hello ???

Well Tony it comes down to this. 3 into 2 wont go. If I could choose 3 drivers then I would pick Vettel, Alonso and Massa. But you can only have 2 drivers, so unless Massa wants to be a test driver then I would go with proven ALonso and Schumacher to be Vettel. Nothing personal, I like Massa, but I want Ferrari to have the current cream of the crop.

Why not Lewis and Vettle then?

I mean Lewis beat Alonso in the same car?

Your right tho massa is pretty rubbish

[GodricVXR]

I thought McLaren had already said that they wouldnt be competitve until race 4 this year? I think Hamilton has done alright. Not brilliant, but alright. The car is an issue, we all knew that going in to the first race of the season.

As for Ferrari, they should be the ones to get rid of their drivers. Both of their drivers have now made statements which prove they have given up this year. If they havnt got the hunger, get rid and put someone with desire into the seat. Crikey, they could pick a streetracer and get better results than these unmotivated embarrasments.

[Denthúl]

Kiki - I was gonna tell the guys not to pick on you and I know you can handle em. I must say I dont like you attitude and feelings about Massa.
Thats really not fair. ferrari has their own set of problems and we all know why and thats the same reason Brawn is doing so well. Ferrari was so set on beating Mcheaters last year they seem for have missed the fact the world wasnt gonna end after the season so never bothered to spend time developing the 2009 car. Now with all their crap you come down on Massa - who had a good chance of getting on the podium today - with a s*** car with old technology.
Hello ???

Well Tony it comes down to this. 3 into 2 wont go. If I could choose 3 drivers then I would pick Vettel, Alonso and Massa. But you can only have 2 drivers, so unless Massa wants to be a test driver then I would go with proven ALonso and Schumacher to be Vettel. Nothing personal, I like Massa, but I want Ferrari to have the current cream of the crop.

Why not Lewis and Vettle then?

I mean Lewis beat Alonso in the same car?

Your right tho massa is pretty rubbish

I'd rather have Alonso-Vettel, to be honest.

And I disagree, Massa isn't exactly rubbish. I think last year gave enough proof of that.

[AKR]

Kiki - I was gonna tell the guys not to pick on you and I know you can handle em. I must say I dont like you attitude and feelings about Massa.
Thats really not fair. ferrari has their own set of problems and we all know why and thats the same reason Brawn is doing so well. Ferrari was so set on beating Mcheaters last year they seem for have missed the fact the world wasnt gonna end after the season so never bothered to spend time developing the 2009 car. Now with all their crap you come down on Massa - who had a good chance of getting on the podium today - with a s*** car with old technology.
Hello ???

Well Tony it comes down to this. 3 into 2 wont go. If I could choose 3 drivers then I would pick Vettel, Alonso and Massa. But you can only have 2 drivers, so unless Massa wants to be a test driver then I would go with proven ALonso and Schumacher to be Vettel. Nothing personal, I like Massa, but I want Ferrari to have the current cream of the crop.

Negative !! if that choice were even there i would not throw alonso into the mix. same s*** at mcheaters will happen....dont get me wrong . I like Alonso and wouldnt want to take anything from him. He is the best there is at the moment. All he needs is a competitive car. Maybe Flavio should stop shooting off his mouth ( that could be where alonso got that manner ) and go beg RBR for some help.

Fine then. Make it Vettel and Massa then. The line between picking Alonso or Massa would be close. But what is for sure is that Vettel is the future Schumacher and he is a must have (and a will have) for Ferrari.

[Tony_sa]

ferrari has their own set of problems and we all know why and thats the same reason Brawn is doing so well.

One element of why Brawn is fast is the Diffuser but I would also point out that Red Bull are a lot faster than Ferrari and only just slower than Brawn and they haven't got a double decker diffuser!

Get it into your head Frosty..... The Diffuser helps A LITTLE !!! so stop the diffuser crap for now. There clearly a hell of a lot going on about the Brawn car than a diffuser which you claim is more of a rocket engine pushing the car around the track.

[Tony_sa]

Kiki - I was gonna tell the guys not to pick on you and I know you can handle em. I must say I dont like you attitude and feelings about Massa.
Thats really not fair. ferrari has their own set of problems and we all know why and thats the same reason Brawn is doing so well. Ferrari was so set on beating Mcheaters last year they seem for have missed the fact the world wasnt gonna end after the season so never bothered to spend time developing the 2009 car. Now with all their crap you come down on Massa - who had a good chance of getting on the podium today - with a s*** car with old technology.
Hello ???

Well Tony it comes down to this. 3 into 2 wont go. If I could choose 3 drivers then I would pick Vettel, Alonso and Massa. But you can only have 2 drivers, so unless Massa wants to be a test driver then I would go with proven ALonso and Schumacher to be Vettel. Nothing personal, I like Massa, but I want Ferrari to have the current cream of the crop.

Negative !! if that choice were even there i would not throw alonso into the mix. same s*** at mcheaters will happen....dont get me wrong . I like Alonso and wouldnt want to take anything from him. He is the best there is at the moment. All he needs is a competitive car. Maybe Flavio should stop shooting off his mouth ( that could be where alonso got that manner ) and go beg RBR for some help.

Fine then. Make it Vettel and Massa then. The line between picking Alonso or Massa would be close. But what is for sure is that Vettel is the future Schumacher and he is a must have (and a will have) for Ferrari.

[AKR]

Kiki - I was gonna tell the guys not to pick on you and I know you can handle em. I must say I dont like you attitude and feelings about Massa.
Thats really not fair. ferrari has their own set of problems and we all know why and thats the same reason Brawn is doing so well. Ferrari was so set on beating Mcheaters last year they seem for have missed the fact the world wasnt gonna end after the season so never bothered to spend time developing the 2009 car. Now with all their crap you come down on Massa - who had a good chance of getting on the podium today - with a s*** car with old technology.
Hello ???

Well Tony it comes down to this. 3 into 2 wont go. If I could choose 3 drivers then I would pick Vettel, Alonso and Massa. But you can only have 2 drivers, so unless Massa wants to be a test driver then I would go with proven ALonso and Schumacher to be Vettel. Nothing personal, I like Massa, but I want Ferrari to have the current cream of the crop.

Why not Lewis and Vettle then?

I mean Lewis beat Alonso in the same car?

Your right tho massa is pretty rubbish

Well you see I like to look at reality. Vettel will come to Ferrari one day and Alosno could as well. Lewis Hamilton will never come to Ferrari. Be realistic so no point in ever liking him becausae he is a McLaren man for life......... despite all the nonsense going to Brawn rumors.

[Frosty]

ferrari has their own set of problems and we all know why and thats the same reason Brawn is doing so well.

One element of why Brawn is fast is the Diffuser but I would also point out that Red Bull are a lot faster than Ferrari and only just slower than Brawn and they haven't got a double decker diffuser!

Get it into your head Frosty..... The Diffuser helps A LITTLE !!! so stop the diffuser crap for now. There clearly a hell of a lot going on about the Brawn car than a diffuser which you claim is more of a rocket engine pushing the car around the track.

Excuse me, I was the one saying the diffuser was very little to do with the overall Brawn pace you were the one suggesting that it had everything to do with the pace that's why I was saying a none double diffuser car like the Red Bull can be as nearly as fast as the Brawn. The only Reason the Ferrari is slow so is because it is very under developed compared to the highly develop Brawn and the very well designed Red Bull.

[Tony_sa]

ferrari has their own set of problems and we all know why and thats the same reason Brawn is doing so well.

One element of why Brawn is fast is the Diffuser but I would also point out that Red Bull are a lot faster than Ferrari and only just slower than Brawn and they haven't got a double decker diffuser!

Get it into your head Frosty..... The Diffuser helps A LITTLE !!! so stop the diffuser crap for now. There clearly a hell of a lot going on about the Brawn car than a diffuser which you claim is more of a rocket engine pushing the car around the track.

Excuse me, I was the one saying the diffuser was very little to do with the overall Brawn pace you were the one suggesting that it had everything to do with the pace that's why I was saying a none double diffuser car like the Red Bull can be as nearly as fast as the Brawn. The only Reason the Ferrari is slow so is because it is very under developed compared to the highly develop Brawn and the very well designed Red Bull.

hehe ... erm...... I think I am sober now... sorry but ya , so be it, but really the diffusers helps downforce so definately adds some drag as well. to support that logic we can look at RBR performance the past few races. no reall diffuser... anyway going to sleep now. cheers

[Jensonb]

I mean Lewis beat Alonso in the same car

[Gaz]

I mean Lewis beat Alonso in the same car

Give it a rest kiddo

Lewis Hamilton, runner-up with 109 points. Hamilton recorded nine consecutive podium finishes in his debut season, more than any other rookie in Formula One history.

Fernando Alonso, the defending double world champion, also recorded 109 points. But was placed 3rd through count-back.

[Frosty]

I mean Lewis beat Alonso in the same car

Well technically he did on the fact that he got more 2nd places if I remember rightly. Though they did score the same amount of points