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[racechick]

If you're refering to me here then get your facts straight. I am not racist and spend much of my time educating others about racial tolerence. My "smartarse comment " was alluding to opinions, passions and ideas expressed on this forum by AKR,read AKR's previous posts if you dont believe me and also AKR's response to what I said. You qbviously have a big complex about something and make yourself look stupid. I have no idea why you posted all that garbage with maps and wierd stuff or what you mean by this
"racechick might be able to enlighten you on that one."
Dont make false assumptions about what you read!

Yeh it’s you racechick & my facts are as strait as a die.
Looks like I hit the nerve right on the spot now doesn’t it.

I will refresh your memory.

:D Ah but Mikey I think AKR has the mind of a true Italian, She is a real tifosi and thinks as Ferrari think

The operative words are TRUE & REAL here; you’re not referring ONLY to AKR here R U, so who is the stupid looking one now.
This is a typical example of the race stereotyping that goes on & all I meant by my garbage map post was that not only Italians have a stereotypical image out there. Get it. I know mine was not malice intended & done in a light hatred way, was yours????

Do you remember our past forum members Ron Dennis, Faulty Towers & Lewis Fan Where they representative of ALL McLaren Fans or British people Don’t think so. So please don’t assume AKR is representative of ALL Ferrari fans or Italians. SIMPLE.

Ok I'll explain one more time to you, AKR is proud of her heritage and has said on many occassions that she is a TRUE and passionate Italian. Also that she is a REAL tifosi. This is fact . This is what I was refering to. Once again Mike I WAS REFERRING TO AKR!!!!

You went on to say I introduced the word racism. NO. You did when you said I racially stereotyped.
Since you brought the topic up do you remember those racist pictures you posted about Lewis and Anthony Hamilton? Done in a black and white minstral style. They were banned!! Take a good look at yourself before you accuse others!!!

[mooker]

Yeh it’s you racechick & my facts are as strait as a die.
Looks like I hit the nerve right on the spot now doesn’t it.

I will refresh your memory.

:D Ah but Mikey I think AKR has the mind of a true Italian, She is a real tifosi and thinks as Ferrari think

The operative words are TRUE & REAL here; you’re not referring ONLY to AKR here R U, so who is the stupid looking one now.
This is a typical example of the race stereotyping that goes on & all I meant by my garbage map post was that not only Italians have a stereotypical image out there. Get it. I know mine was not malice intended & done in a light hatred way, was yours????

Do you remember our past forum members Ron Dennis, Faulty Towers & Lewis Fan Where they representative of ALL McLaren Fans or British people Don’t think so. So please don’t assume AKR is representative of ALL Ferrari fans or Italians. SIMPLE.

Mikey boy, are you on drugs??????

[Mikep99]

Ok I'll explain one more time to you, AKR is proud of her heritage and has said on many occassions that she is a TRUE and passionate Italian. Also that she is a REAL tifosi. This is fact . This is what I was refering to. Once again Mike I WAS REFERRING TO AKR!!!!
You went on to say I introduced the word racism. NO. You did when you said I racially stereotyped.

From what I see around here she is one of a kind, so she is not representative of anything but the very extreme view just like our old friends RD, FT & LF.

:D Ah but Mikey I think AKR has the mind of a true Italian, She is a real tifosi and thinks as Ferrari think

Racechick just looking at that statement you can get the impression it’s only about AKR. But this statement was relating to the [b]“win at ALL cost philosophyâ€

[AKR]

I have no complex just like to point out how italians feel the need to tell the world they are better at everything from cars to food to history to haircuts to amount of body hair where have you been living? youre italian decent you should know what im on about

Mate it looks like you have and it’s a big one. This new statement just proves it, if you preserve me quoting records & facts to backup my arguments in this way then my friend you’re got the problem. But I don’t expect anything different from a McLaren lamb, after all we can see how the spy scandal has been turned around by you folk to be all Ferrari’s fault.
And the "youre italian decent" thing. You did not even know I was a wog until you asked the question mate so keep fishing.

eg the "italians do it better t shirt" in your closet!

Never have never will, I don’t think the guy’s in my rugby league team would have appreciated it mate.
But I am sure you got one of these in your closet.

Oh so I get it now Mike, you are Australian - Italian. Which city are you from? Melbourne? Sydney? Adelaide? Gold Coast? Brisbane? etc.

[AKR]

If you're refering to me here then get your facts straight. I am not racist and spend much of my time educating others about racial tolerence. My "smartarse comment " was alluding to opinions, passions and ideas expressed on this forum by AKR,read AKR's previous posts if you dont believe me and also AKR's response to what I said. You qbviously have a big complex about something and make yourself look stupid. I have no idea why you posted all that garbage with maps and wierd stuff or what you mean by this
"racechick might be able to enlighten you on that one."
Dont make false assumptions about what you read!

Yeh it’s you racechick & my facts are as strait as a die.
Looks like I hit the nerve right on the spot now doesn’t it.

I will refresh your memory.

:D Ah but Mikey I think AKR has the mind of a true Italian, She is a real tifosi and thinks as Ferrari think

The operative words are TRUE & REAL here; you’re not referring ONLY to AKR here R U, so who is the stupid looking one now.
This is a typical example of the race stereotyping that goes on & all I meant by my garbage map post was that not only Italians have a stereotypical image out there. Get it. I know mine was not malice intended & done in a light hatred way, was yours????

Do you remember our past forum members Ron Dennis, Faulty Towers & Lewis Fan Where they representative of ALL McLaren Fans or British people Don’t think so. So please don’t assume AKR is representative of ALL Ferrari fans or Italians. SIMPLE.

Hang on Mike, I am not the one making Italians look bad. You are, You are the one putting maps of the UK on this site and having a shot at British. Are you forgetting there are a lt of Brits that actually go for Ferrari? I know some in person. Now really you shouldn't have a go at the Brits or anyone. I know you were joking (well at least at the start) so that is why I found your whinging pom joke funny at the start. But enough now as it is starting to look like a bit racist to some and I for one do not like racism especially after I know that an initial what is meant to be a joke can go to far and begin to offend. Take it from me as I have been a personal victim of this. Please Mike keep it to Ferrari Vs McLaren only and not Italy Vs Britain as the later is defenitly not the case.

[AKR]

Racechick wrote : You went on to say I introduced the word racism. NO. You did when you said I racially stereotyped.
Since you brought the topic up do you remember those racist pictures you posted about Lewis and Anthony Hamilton? Done in a black and white minstral style. They were banned!! Take a good look at yourself before you accuse others!!!

Miki is this true? If it is that is terrible. I do not like Hamilton only because he drives for McLaren. That is it. Personally I have nothing against the man. If Schumi had driven for McLaren instead of Ferrari I wouldn't of liked him either. However to make personal rascit remarks is of the lowest dinominator. Yes I do have the mentality at win at all cost and cheat if you can as long as you don't get caught. But this is only an opinion and there are others who think a like irregardless of nationality. But to go down to the level of humilating someone outside the grounds of sport is plain wrong and terrible. Violence and racism is not the answer. Hooligans in my opinion should all be put in jail. Mike you perhaps talk like this because where you live there are many Italians and you do not know or feel what it is like to be a minority. Perhaps put yourself in someone else's shoes like that of a minority group and see how they feel before you make any racist remarks.

[Mikep99]

Oh so I get it now Mike, you are Australian - Italian. Which city are you from? Melbourne? Sydney? Adelaide? Gold Coast? Brisbane? etc.

ARK I am from Sydney.
I am sorry to say but now I understand fully why you have been having so many complaints on this forum. And I shudder to admit it that the McLaren lambs were right. You don't seem to comprehend what people say and you interpret it the opisite way. I hope & I think it may be because English is not your first language which your always going on about but you don't seem to grasp what you read.
What you have said in your two above post is so off left field I am dumb founded. Just read from the beginning and everything will make sense. I hope
If what you're saying is what I meant or is what I am all about don't you think the mods would have stepped in by now.
My maps thing was an example of the race stereotyping that goes on - Nothing more nothing less. That’s why I added a comment at end of the maps post explaining it because I knew people who wanted to interpret it that way got the message of what I meant with it.

And the Hammy thing. Give me a break please. I think he is a great driver & may well be the greatest one day but personally I think he is a arrogant my s*** don't stink w***er. Anything I have said or posted about him has nothing to do with his skin.

AKR don't worry mate I know about racism. The late 60's was not a happy time for me at school and has not in anyway swayed me from being a proud Aussy of Italian decent.
Why - because I have 1/2 a brain to know it's always the minority that bring the team down.

[AKR]

Mike this is what racechick wrote.

You went on to say I introduced the word racism. NO. You did when you said I racially stereotyped.
Since you brought the topic up do you remember those racist pictures you posted about Lewis and Anthony Hamilton? Done in a black and white minstral style. They were banned!! Take a good look at yourself before you accuse others!!!

Now English may be what my 3rd language? Perhaps 4th but unless Racechick is a liar, if you really posted those racist pictures about Lewis and Anthony Hamilton then anyone with even minor understandings on the English language would think that the poster of such post is racist. So explain that one please?

Eitherway I do not think you are racist, maybe those pictures were misunderstood. Hey I never even saw or remember the post I am just going by what Racechick wrote. Your right the mods would of probably ban you for it if it were true. Miki, se io li ho offeso, mi dispiace molto e li chiedo scusa.

[texasmr2]

I also never saw those pic's but I'm sure they were removed because of how other's may percieve them that's why we all must be very cautious. Nice to see a common ground has been met, keep it up .

[Mikep99]

Now English may be what my 3rd language? Perhaps 4th but unless Racechick is a liar, if you really posted those racist pictures about Lewis and Anthony Hamilton then anyone with even minor understandings on the English language would think that the poster of such post is racist. So explain that one please?

Eitherway I do not think you are racist, maybe those pictures were misunderstood. Hey I never even saw or remember the post I am just going by what Racechick wrote. Your right the mods would of probably ban you for it if it were true. Miki, se io li ho offeso, mi dispiace molto e li chiedo scusa.

AKR, NO racechick is no liar & I am sure she is no racist. Everything is up to interpretation & everyone see's things differently. But it is dangerous making loaded statements & not expecting a multitude of different reactions. This is why I put the little comment at the end of it to explain what it was all about. Problem is some people only want to take it for what they want it to be.
It is also dangerous dredging up something that happened 3-4 months ago and commenting on it when you don’t know all the facts, circumstances & discussions that were going on at the time. I can assure you it was not racist, never has, never will.

Don’t worry mate I have thick skin & no offence taken.

[bud]

personally I think he is a arrogant my s*** don't stink w***er.

sounds like my view on Michael Schumacher

[texasmr2]

I think some sort of arrogance is a necessary trait to become a truelly great driver or WDC?

[Mikep99]

personally I think he is a arrogant my s*** don't stink w***er.

sounds like my view on Michael Schumacher

yep your right Bud & both are good drivers as well.

[bud]

I think some sort of arrogance is a necessary trait to become a truelly great driver or WDC?

damn straight! nice guys finish last

[deMuRe]

personally I think he is a arrogant my s*** don't stink w***er.

sounds like my view on Michael Schumacher

I've never seen a driver who thought everyone else was better then him win any races...