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#375508
It was a great drive but tbh, there wasn't much defending he needed to do. The Sauber was simply too quick in the straights and was able to accelerate out of a corner much faster than the Merc. Lewis would get right on his tail in sectors two and three but Nico would simply pull away in Sector one and the one time Lewis did pass, it was laughable how easily he was able to take the position back from Lewis on the straight.


That's my point, though. He just kept a level head, knew exactly what he had to do and then did it. Imagine Maldonado, Pérez etc. in that situation, they'd be all over the place, locking up constantly and generally trying to fight where it wasn't necessary, instead of just positioning the car properly and knowing where your advantage is.


Agree, Perez and Maldonado would have defended the inside of T1, not been able to get traction and Hamilton would've DRS'd easily. Hulkenburg knew the strengths of the car and made himself impossible to pass. It reminded me of Hockenheim in 2012 when Alonso, in an inferior Ferrari, controlled his and Vettel's pace in S2 and S3 then used traction to pull away in the last sector and start of the 1st sector and negated the effect of Vettel having DRS. Hulkenburg's drive was as good as anything i've seen from anyone all season!

Alonso's Ferrari without DRS was pulling away from Vettel's Red Bull with DRS on the long straight.
#375509
It was a great drive but tbh, there wasn't much defending he needed to do. The Sauber was simply too quick in the straights and was able to accelerate out of a corner much faster than the Merc. Lewis would get right on his tail in sectors two and three but Nico would simply pull away in Sector one and the one time Lewis did pass, it was laughable how easily he was able to take the position back from Lewis on the straight.


That's my point, though. He just kept a level head, knew exactly what he had to do and then did it. Imagine Maldonado, Pérez etc. in that situation, they'd be all over the place, locking up constantly and generally trying to fight where it wasn't necessary, instead of just positioning the car properly and knowing where your advantage is.


Agree, Perez and Maldonado would have defended the inside of T1, not been able to get traction and Hamilton would've DRS'd easily. Hulkenburg knew the strengths of the car and made himself impossible to pass. It reminded me of Hockenheim in 2012 when Alonso, in an inferior Ferrari, controlled his and Vettel's pace in S2 and S3 then used traction to pull away in the last sector and start of the 1st sector and negated the effect of Vettel having DRS. Hulkenburg's drive was as good as anything i've seen from anyone all season!

Alonso's Ferrari without DRS was pulling away from Vettel's Red Bull with DRS on the long straight.


Not sure how given the Q best sector times.

Sector #1
Pos No Driver Time
1 11 Nico Hulkenberg 34.382
2 1 Sebastian Vettel 34.404
3 15 Adrian Sutil 34.443
4 3 Fernando Alonso 34.457
5 4 Felipe Massa 34.493
6 2 Mark Webber 34.502
7 7 Kimi Räikkönen 34.590
8 14 Paul di Resta 34.606
9 9 Nico Rosberg 34.609
10 6 Sergio Perez 34.612
11 12 Esteban Gutierrez 34.626
12 10 Lewis Hamilton 34.630
13 19 Daniel Ricciardo 34.649
14 5 Jenson Button 34.653
15 8 Romain Grosjean 34.653
16 18 Jean-Eric Vergne 34.727
17 16 Pastor Maldonado 34.920
18 17 Valtteri Bottas 34.985
19 20 Charles Pic 35.141
20 21 Giedo van der Garde 35.245
21 23 Max Chilton 35.323
22 22 Jules Bianchi 35.388
#375510
The fact is, I will be pissed if Hulk does not go to Lotus next year. He has proven that he is a great driver time and time again, and if Korea is not the concluding piece to say Hulk should be in a top team, I don't know what evidence shows he should be driving for a top team next year. Bottom line is, Hulkenberg is a threat and I like him.
#375518
It was a crap race with inability to overtake.


I seem to remember plenty of overtaking, and not just in that DRS zone.


We had a leader in a different race.


Ughhh christ RC, and we haven't seen that before?!?!? Schumacher, Villeneuve, Hill, Hakkinen, Senna, Fangio, Clark, etc , etc. For the full list, read the history books...

We had trains behind Grosjean and Hulkenberg.


You don't like trains? You bitch about DRS, but we had a fair few trains before DRS was introduced. I thought people would've enjoyed things being back to old times.
#375519
The fact is, I will be pissed if Hulk does not go to Lotus next year. He has proven that he is a great driver time and time again, and if Korea is not the concluding piece to say Hulk should be in a top team, I don't know what evidence shows he should be driving for a top team next year. Bottom line is, Hulkenberg is a threat and I like him.


If Luca was smart I would sign Hulk to a five year contract and keep him at Sauber for two years and when Alonzo's and Kimi's contracts are up (which Kimi is two years and I also beleive that Nando has two years left) he gets one of the two seats.

I bet that Hulk would jump at the offer in a Nando-second :clap:
#375520
Hulks proven he's good, but I'd like to see Hulk and Jules as a pairing at Sauber for a couple of years. Be good for Sauber cause they are both talented drivers and healthy competition for a potential Ferrari seat in a couple of years would help bring out the best in both of them to Sauber's benefit.

Bianchi would do a mountain better for the team than their Guitierrez.
#375521
You don't like trains? You bitch about DRS, but we had a fair few trains before DRS was introduced. I thought people would've enjoyed things being back to old times.


I've already posted how enthralled I was with the train and the attempted attacks and corresponding defense used. Even though my guy (Nando) ended up last in that battle, I completely appreciated the skill and battle that went on. The Hulk used his cars strength to perfect advantage.

I know RC might have been frustrated cause her guy couldn't pass Nico, but the battle was epic and when Hamilton actually got in front it was a great move, it was just that Nico stayed calm, used his advantage and got it back. I think something similar happened to a lesser extent between Lewis and Nando. I just loved watching those two go at it so fiercely and yet fairly - even though my guy again lost out, it was awesome watching it unfold.

I'd take all those train laps at Korea over 100 bland, vanilla DRS down the straight passes - boring! DRS is not needed for exciting racing.
#375526
I think it was last year when Lewis was the one defending from Webber for most of the race....or was it 2011. Yeah it was 2011, he qualified pole, lost the lead to Vettel at the start and defended 2nd place from Webber for most of the race, Webber got past him at Turn 1 once and Lewis took it back. I thought it was one of his best defensive driving, and this time he was on the receiving end of it.
#375559
You don't like trains? You bitch about DRS, but we had a fair few trains before DRS was introduced. I thought people would've enjoyed things being back to old times.


I've already posted how enthralled I was with the train and the attempted attacks and corresponding defense used. Even though my guy (Nando) ended up last in that battle, I completely appreciated the skill and battle that went on. The Hulk used his cars strength to perfect advantage.

I know RC might have been frustrated cause her guy couldn't pass Nico, but the battle was epic and when Hamilton actually got in front it was a great move, it was just that Nico stayed calm, used his advantage and got it back. I think something similar happened to a lesser extent between Lewis and Nando. I just loved watching those two go at it so fiercely and yet fairly - even though my guy again lost out, it was awesome watching it unfold.

I'd take all those train laps at Korea over 100 bland, vanilla DRS down the straight passes - boring! DRS is not needed for exciting racing.

I agree spanky It was the best racing we've seen in some time. The battle was two fold and I loved watching Lewis forced to split his focus from attack to defense mode every time he failed with Nico, Nando would try to capitalize and Lewis would have to go into defend mode. That's why I'm frustrated with the Pirelli situation. We could have witnessed much more of that but after a while everyone was forced into tire conservation mode and you could clearly see the Ferrari cease to attack.

It would be a shame if Hulkenberg is unable to get a top shelf ride next year due to his size/weight disadvantage.
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