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[LewEngBridewell]

I'm hesitant. The DRS is a great addition to the sport in my opinion, but it's something that can become a bit farcical if overused. Let's see how two zones go and make judgements afterwards.

I agree.

[spankyham]

I think its pretty easy fix,

If you are passed in the first DRS zone by a car behind you that was within the 1 second then when you both reach the 2nd DRS zone and you are within the 1 second barrier of the car that just passed you then you can't activate DRS. Only if you are the car within the 1 second barrier at the first DRS, cannot make the pass stick and therefore get another shot at the 2nd DRS Zone.

I agree

So, having rewarded the driver for being behind, by giving him an artificial advantage, you then double the punishment you've hit the driver who worked his way ahead, by refusing to give him the same artificial advantage you gave the guy who just passed him.

"Take this quarter, go to the Melbourne GP, and have a rat gnaw every DRS activator off every car"

[LewEngBridewell]

All this talk of "artificial advantages" and such. Yeah, yeah, it's not as "pure" maybe, but the frigging dirty air that comes out of the back of the leading car is far from pure. You could call it an artificial disadvantage.

Yay for DRS!!!! (Until a better solution is found).

[bud]

The point of DRS is to reward the guy who gets to within 1 second of the car in front. This is the zone known as "dirty air" where once you reach it your car is no longer behaving as well and thus you struggle to pass.

THis is the whole purpose of DRS to let guys that are faster get on with the racing, but having two zones makes DRS sole purpose null and void as it just give the guy that was passed position back. If this is the case you might as well not have any DRS zones!

[geetface9]

but having two zones makes DRS sole purpose null and void as it just give the guy that was passed position back. If this is the case you might as well not have any DRS zones!

exactly. that's the problem with the zones like they were in abu dhabi. there may have been somebody who made a pass in the first zone and kept the position through the second, but I didn't see it myself. so no reason to bother having drs at all if this is the case.

[Blackavar]

Well, if a track has two straights right after each other then DRS is pointless. There should be one zone.

But if a track has two straights in complete different parts of the track then they both could be used for DRS without the silliness of Abu Dhabi.

I think its pretty easy fix,

If you are passed in the first DRS zone by a car behind you that was within the 1 second then when you both reach the 2nd DRS zone and you are within the 1 second barrier of the car that just passed you then you can't activate DRS. Only if you are the car within the 1 second barrier at the first DRS, cannot make the pass stick and therefore get another shot at the 2nd DRS Zone.

Or this.

[What's Burning?]

The problem is inherent and it's being fixed with an artificial aid. It's like giving Viagra to a man with erectile dysfunction when what the man really needed is looser fitting underwear.

[calvins48]

The problem is inherent and it's being fixed with an artificial aid. It's like giving Viagra to a man with erectile dysfunction when what the man really needed is looser fitting underwear.

But the problem is also artificial. If one fixed the dirty air coming off the car then we wouldn't have an overtaking problem.

If a solution is found to "clean up" this air then the racing wouldn't need something like DRS.

The fans wanted overtaking, they're getting it. By whatever means possible. And I think it's better for the sport.

[spankyham]

Personally I don't buy into the "dirty air" argument. You think the wake of a racing car is something new? For me its laughable. If you don't want dirty air, be in front - what's wrong with that for an idea. What's wrong with giving the guy who has worked his way to the front an actual reward for being in front?

When people start arguing that getting to within a second of the car ahead is "work done" for a driver, well, I personally don't think that's racing. For me, passing should be dam hard, you should have to work through difficulties to get in front, because getting ahead is a big prize - not something to be given.

And to all the supporters of DRS, be honest, do you find a DRS pass anything but boring vanilla flavoured mush. People don't rave about great "DRS" passing moves.

[bud]

Dirty air affects modern F1 cars more then in the past because of the reliance on aero for performance, listen to your teams big boss for his take on aero!

End of the day you can't deny dirty air causing difficulties in being able to pass even for a faster car. I mean what happened in the last race of 2010?

[spankyham]

Dirty air affects modern F1 cars more then in the past because of the reliance on aero for performance, listen to your teams big boss for his take on aero!

End of the day you can't deny dirty air causing difficulties in being able to pass even for a faster car. I mean what happened in the last race of 2010?

And even given 2010, I still don't believe in DRS passes, nor do I believe Nando should have been gifted a pass in AD. Honestly, I want to see real, hard earned passes. I want to see the guy who gets in front rewarded not punished. Hard as it may be to believe, drivers can actually pass without DRS and from dirty air.

[racechick]

Personally I don't buy into the "dirty air" argument. You think the wake of a racing car is something new? For me its laughable. If you don't want dirty air, be in front - what's wrong with that for an idea. What's wrong with giving the guy who has worked his way to the front an actual reward for being in front?

When people start arguing that getting to within a second of the car ahead is "work done" for a driver, well, I personally don't think that's racing. For me, passing should be dam hard, you should have to work through difficulties to get in front, because getting ahead is a big prize - not something to be given.

And to all the supporters of DRS, be honest, do you find a DRS pass anything but boring vanilla flavoured mush. People don't rave about great "DRS" passing moves.

[darwin dali]

The problem is inherent and it's being fixed with an artificial aid. It's like giving Viagra to a man with erectile dysfunction when what the man really needed is looser fitting underwear.

Really? Looser fitting underwear? I could think of many other things first that he'd needed

[Hammer278]

Personally I don't buy into the "dirty air" argument. You think the wake of a racing car is something new? For me its laughable. If you don't want dirty air, be in front - what's wrong with that for an idea. What's wrong with giving the guy who has worked his way to the front an actual reward for being in front?

When people start arguing that getting to within a second of the car ahead is "work done" for a driver, well, I personally don't think that's racing. For me, passing should be dam hard, you should have to work through difficulties to get in front, because getting ahead is a big prize - not something to be given.

And to all the supporters of DRS, be honest, do you find a DRS pass anything but boring vanilla flavoured mush. People don't rave about great "DRS" passing moves.

Agreed. One instance which drove Alonso's stock skyward was his defensive driving in Imola 2005 (or 2006?), keeping Michael who was around 2 seconds faster, behind him for around 20 - 25 laps.

If DRS was around then, this great memory would not be with us today.

[What's Burning?]

The problem is inherent and it's being fixed with an artificial aid. It's like giving Viagra to a man with erectile dysfunction when what the man really needed is looser fitting underwear.

Really? Looser fitting underwear? I could think of many other things first that he'd needed

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