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#280572
The_Stig_Money wrote:Any body know where to get red bull championship merchandise, besides eBay?
Hey, just noticed that in http://www.f1.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; shop, some Red Bull Champions stuff has just arrived, including Seb's WDC cap and a WCC T-shirt.

Here's the link :)

http://f1store.formula1.com/stores/f1/d ... C-CHMHGTFG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(I think I'm allowed to post that link, but it's easy to find if it does get removed from this post).
#280677
LewEngBridewell wrote:
The_Stig_Money wrote:$42 for a hat?
F1 merchandise is, sadly, not cheap. :(
Neither was the jet fuel burned to fetch Seb's spare front wing from Milton Keynes.

Coincidence? I don't think so. :hehe:
#281233
Out of curiosity what would it take for Vettel to prove he is one of the best? Is that even possible. Some say if he is in a less dominant car. But if he dominates in a less dominant car won't people again say that is a dominant car? Sorry if my question sounds idiotic, I'm new to the sport. I regret missing out all these years. I think it's the best sport known to man. At the same time I have found out the hard way that mentioning Hamilton in a negative way will get you banned from forums so it's a walk on thin ice. My reason for liking Vettel is pure and simple his attitude. My reason for disliking hamilton is for the same reason. In my opinion the proof is in the wins. There can be no other way to prove it as there are always "what if's and excuses" and we will all find evendence that points to our driver being the best.

Thanks in advance
#281238
F1 being a constructor based series means drivers are all doing their maximum but the results differ due to the car they are in. The debate has always been there in F1 for in this sport you cannot win Championships unless you have the car under you. Which is why hiring the best designers and technical personnel is just as important as hiring the best drivers.
#281245
Vetteldaman wrote:Out of curiosity what would it take for Vettel to prove he is one of the best? Is that even possible. Some say if he is in a less dominant car. But if he dominates in a less dominant car won't people again say that is a dominant car? Sorry if my question sounds idiotic, I'm new to the sport. I regret missing out all these years. I think it's the best sport known to man. At the same time I have found out the hard way that mentioning Hamilton in a negative way will get you banned from forums so it's a walk on thin ice. My reason for liking Vettel is pure and simple his attitude. My reason for disliking hamilton is for the same reason. In my opinion the proof is in the wins. There can be no other way to prove it as there are always "what if's and excuses" and we will all find evendence that points to our driver being the best.

Thanks in advance
You'll find the top three drivers in F1 (Alonso, Vettel and Hamilton) debated long and hard. They are all excellent and they are all better than each other at some aspects of F1 racing. Which driver you ultimately support comes down to the skills you most admire. There is no definitive answer.
#281263
Vetteldaman wrote:Out of curiosity what would it take for Vettel to prove he is one of the best? Is that even possible. Some say if he is in a less dominant car. But if he dominates in a less dominant car won't people again say that is a dominant car? Sorry if my question sounds idiotic, I'm new to the sport. I regret missing out all these years. I think it's the best sport known to man. At the same time I have found out the hard way that mentioning Hamilton in a negative way will get you banned from forums so it's a walk on thin ice. My reason for liking Vettel is pure and simple his attitude. My reason for disliking hamilton is for the same reason. In my opinion the proof is in the wins. There can be no other way to prove it as there are always "what if's and excuses" and we will all find evendence that points to our driver being the best.

Thanks in advance
First off, Vettel has proved he's one of the best by winning 2 titles, and completely flattening his thoroughly competent teammate in the latter.

Like you say, Seb's attitude is great. He has a fun personality and is a very likeable world champion. But Lewis Hamilton's attitude to racing, shows he really has got a pair, and I'm a huge fan of that too.

The proof is in the wins, you say? OK, well both Seb and Lewis have both won world titles, so they've both ticked that box. Lewis has won 16 races, while Seb has won 20. There's not much in it really, so I'm not sure I understand your statement about...
the proof is in the wins
#281277
andrew wrote:One has twice as many titles as the other. :wink:
Ok. So that counts a lot for you. Others may value different things.
#281280
racechick wrote:
andrew wrote:One has twice as many titles as the other. :wink:
Ok. So that counts a lot for you. Others may value different things.
All that matters when everything is said and done is the records.
#281282
andrew wrote:
racechick wrote:
andrew wrote:One has twice as many titles as the other. :wink:
Ok. So that counts a lot for you. Others may value different things.
All that matters when everything is said and done is the records.
To you. Others may think differently. Gilles Villeneuve is one of the all time greats in my book. No records.
#281283
racechick wrote:
andrew wrote:
racechick wrote:
andrew wrote:One has twice as many titles as the other. :wink:
Ok. So that counts a lot for you. Others may value different things.
All that matters when everything is said and done is the records.
To you. Others may think differently. Gilles Villeneuve is one of the all time greats in my book. No records.
:yes: And Schumacher certainly hasn't got 7 times the talent and speed of Kimi Raikkonen or Lewis Hamilton.....
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