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By racechick
#358103

Also, we know people don't like Button, must we here an insult every time someone wants to bring him up? I mean, by this point, you guys are just seeing what you want to see, and repeating the same points, which detracts from why other people have mentioned Button and the like. It's getting pretty well, unsocial able.


I want to try to answer this in a reasonable way. I can only really speak for myself , but I think I can maybe touch on why a lot of Hamilton fans have a dislike and a lack of respect for Button. But firstly, dont think its restricted to this forum. Take a look at other forums and comments following articles concerning Button. The feeling is pretty widespread.

So...... I was never very bothered about Button before his pairing with Hamilton, so it's from that point on really that my observations come. I found him to take every opportunity to build himself up at the expense of Hamilton.Button the tyre master,Button the strategist, Button the team leader, Button the real number one, Buton the deliverer of superb races, and for some reason I still can't fathom, Whitmarsh was complicit in this. It wasn't done openly, it was done with a smile here and a dig there, and it was relentless.
It's been said of Hamilton fans that they just didnt like Button because he out scored Hamilton in 2011. Well certainly for me that's not the case. I have no issue with Rosberg out gunning Hamilton at his own game- qualifying.
I perceive Button to be so concerned about appearing to better his team mates that he has scant regard for the team or the team mate. It's happening sooner than I expected with Perez, but I fully expected it.
Having used these, what I see as underhand, ways to gain an advantage, it is hardly surprising that fans of the driver on the receiving end now take a certain delight in seeing his demise. Particularly his manipulation of media, coming back to bite him on the bottom. As I've said before, I'm not proud of having these negative feelings, but I've got them :shrug:
Not so with Mclaren, just Button. I am sad to see a great team struggling, but the writing was on the all last year and the year before. It was pointed out on this forum but dismissed out of hand when suggestions were made that all was not well at McLaren. And I don't think it will be rectified easily with the current two drivers and the staffing structure in place.
Ok , i just tried to explain it. shoot me down now.


But I don't think that explains why people can't let it go, and why people can't stop bad mouthing him. That just explains why you dislike him. And I don't think that's what Vaptin asked.....

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Well I think it's the unpleasant side of human nature quite enjoying seeing someone get payback. After all this behaviour went on for quite some time with a debilitating effect on the team and on the other driver. And because it was done in a covert manner , with a smile, it was not accepted in many quarters, still isn't . As more evidence comes of the things many were saying at the time, I guess people feel vindicated. Remember at the time these things were suggested, the people doing the suggesting were called all manner of things loonies, conspirators, fanboys etc etc.
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By racechick
#358104
It could easily be Rosberg rather than Button.


No way! Different animal.
By Hammer278
#358120
LRW, maybe I can help.

The thing is, Button has his face in the camera whenever he's not in the car...so the news is always filled with his political speeches/quips...and these quotes are in our faces a lot more than other drivers out there. Thus, we express our feelings more about Button since he adores the sound of his own voice being recorded whenever his boss doesn't force him to get in the car and work for his salary. :D


No that doesn't help. Just sounds like more thinly veiled excuses to slag him off one more time.


:scratchchin: I'll try again in a while...
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By 1Lemon
#358144
I just think of Hamilton had the exact same race as button in Canada people would be saying a lot of different things.
By Hammer278
#358148
I just think of Hamilton had the exact same race as button in Canada people would be saying a lot of different things.


Punting out competitors and getting loads of help from Safety cars and good timing? Nope.

I'll give you an example of a classic Hamilton victory - Nurburgring 2011. Watch it and you'll know why.
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By f1boy
#358171
Button and McLaren are looking like a pathetic effort.

Probably better just to retire Jenson and for McLaren to concentrate on road cars imo.
By Hammer278
#358174
McLaren were better than Mercedes today. Button overtook Hamilton on track mate.

The Mercedes outqualified the McLaren by 1.5 seconds yesterday...and finished behind today. Incredible.
By andrew
#358177
Mercedes are probably one of the fastest over a single lap but they are horrific at managing their tyres. Sounds familiar where Merc are concerned.
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By f1boy
#358180
True Hammer. (agree Andrew)

How Mercedes can go from a front row lockout to where they ended up is frankly laughable imo.
The car is fast, but the tyre wear is ridiculous.

I'll blame the tyre for being poo, but I do understand that everyone has to use the same poo tyres. :confused:
By Hammer278
#358181
Mercedes are probably one of the fastest over a single lap but they are horrific at managing their tyres. Sounds familiar where Merc are concerned.


It's not just tyre degradation. At the start of the race, everyone's got almost brand new tyres on but Mercedes already look like midfield runners compared to Ferrari, Redbull and Lotus...this is the big mystery. The car is helpless with race fuel load.
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By LewEngBridewell
#358194
Button and McLaren are looking like a pathetic effort.

Probably better just to retire Jenson and for McLaren to concentrate on road cars imo.


Erm, and how did Merc perform??? :rofl:
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By LewEngBridewell
#358195
I must admit, I grinned when Jenson passed Lewis today. Har har har this thread needs a post like this. :thefinger:
By andrew
#358196
I must admit, I grinned when Jenson passed Lewis today. Har har har this thread needs a post like this. :thefinger:


Quoted so Lew can't make it disappear! :rofl:
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By LewEngBridewell
#358206
I must admit, I grinned when Jenson passed Lewis today. Har har har this thread needs a post like this. :thefinger:


Quoted so Lew can't make it disappear! :rofl:


I don't care, McLaren fans have had to put up with much worse than that. And then half the community left. :rolleyes:
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By racechick
#358227
I must admit, I grinned when Jenson passed Lewis today. Har har har this thread needs a post like this. :thefinger:


Quoted so Lew can't make it disappear! :rofl:


I don't care, McLaren fans have had to put up with much worse than that. And then half the community left. :rolleyes:

Half the community did not leave, a couple of people did.
But you are right about Mercedes they were crap today :thumbdown:
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