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[Hammer278]

Who vilified him?

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Here's a clue.

[Jabberwocky]

Lol

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[racechick]

Oh that ws clever!! I was trying to click that for ages.
Love ya really oh fuschia one!!

[NHcheese]

oh thats good.

[bud]

Nowhere was the talk about disaster or terminal - quit with that BS.
LH was being thoughtless and disrespectful in saying the departure of Ross Brawn was not a loss to F1. And that's what he said, no two ways about it. Whether he wanted it to sound that way only him knows; trying to sugar coat his careless statement by fans doesn't make it more palatable.

He also said it wouldn't be a loss for F1 if he left. Was he disrespecting himself too?

I took from his statement; life goes on!

[sagi58]

... It does seem to be something specifically about Lewis. All he has to do is something everyone else has done, and there is no benefit of doubt or no quarter given, 'its how dare he' its like 1 strike your are out only for Lewis. you can almost hear the posse being assembled and fresh horses found...

No its Lewis, he is evil - stone him

You might consider the fact that the McLaren fairy-tale writers have a huge part in this perception of Hamilton!
The hype surrounding him and his "greatness" and "invincibility" put him on a pedestal that was seen to be a
foregone conclusion! He was presented to the F1 world as the next "Senna" and comparisons were being made
continuously. I realize the British hadn't had a "homegrown" hero in years and many hoped that the hype was
true. Unfortunately, for Hamilton, he is human, after all. Unfortunately, for Hamilton, his F1 career has been
followed not only by fans; but, also by controversy, as he seems to be at the wrong place at the wrong time!

McLaren took a lol of persuading to put Hamilton in that car, as I've said before. Alonso was supposed to be the guy that got the business done but we all know how that panned out. There was no attempt at McLaren to put Lewis on a pedestal, in fact Dennis tried to keep him out of the limelight.
As for British " homegrown" heroes... Britain led the leader board then and still does forF1 world champions., so that's a ridiculous thing to say.

That you have to go back to a six year old blog to try to discredit Lewis kind of proves the point about the lengths people will go to to have a go at him.

First of all, you misunderstood my intention in posting that "six year old blog"! I do not believe we can speak of "absolutes" as the world is not black and white. Nothing is black and white until it's a fact. That anyone uses "never" and "always" is one of my biggest pet peeves. So, when someone posted (paraphrased, as I don't have time to find the quote) "at least he never compares himself to legends", I dug that up as a reminder that even our personal favourites have clay feet! STARTING with my own!!

The "hype" I referred to was the media frenzy that surrounded Hamilton's debut and has followed his career since. IF Dennis tried to keep him out of the limelight, he did a very poor job of it, as it seemed there hasn't been a shortage of Hamilton did this, Hamilton said that.

I don't know how any of us can be sure of what does or doesn't happen behind closed doors at any team. So to say that there was no attempt is again dealing with an "absolute" that I don't particularly believe is possible, especially not after the political games that seemed to be happening there, that fateful season.

Finally, I did not say that Britain didn't have any "homegrown" heroes!! What I said was that there hadn't been any in a few years, NOT the same thing!

Have a great weekend!!

[sagi58]

isn't he great and funny for "allegedly" saying that, and in a context of what even according to the linked blogs was a joke run? I love that guy. Funnier than anything Kimi says.

Enlighten me. Where does it say it was a joke?

I'm laughing still, after I read it. Isn't that what a joke is supposed to do?

I guess we have different funny bones!!

[NHcheese]

"Any successful F1 team has to have a senior reference and that's the big question," ... "We need to make sure if I'm to remain here that I'm the reference." Ross Brawn

He is leavin F1 team management.

[ang4f1]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motors ... Laren.html
I don't know if this has already been posted?
Sad that Ross will not be returning to F1
But I'm still hoping he will change his mind...

[CookinFlat6]

great find Ang,
Makes sense, he has got his 200 mill from Merc, why would he want to come back into a corrupt, failing, stressful circus?

good news for Merc fans who got the best and last out of him.

I never understtood why so many assume he would come back and work for his oldest adversaries as TP. Especially when he left Merc as he couldnt be the main man, why would he then go work in the same role for guys he would regard as his peers, and in almost each case an inferior peer?

[racechick]

Just been reading Ross is retiring from F1 on Twitter Sad day for F1! Selfishly...if he isn't at Merc I don't want him helping another team. But selfishness as side...what a loss he will be. Goodbye to an era. I think he has to be the best TP ever! I still say Mercedes missed a trick not giving Ross the control he wanted. Will Merc win without him? Probably. Would it have been more of a certainty with him. Oh yes!

[racechick]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/mclaren/10611909/Ross-Brawn-announces-retirement-from-Formula-One-to-end-speculation-linking-him-with-McLaren.html
I don't know if this has already been posted?
Sad that Ross will not be returning to F1
But I'm still hoping he will change his mind...

Hi Ang!! He will be a massive loss. Such a calm guy, he ouses confidence and calmness. I think he was the ideal TP for Lewis!

[Jabberwocky]

I think Mercedes biggest test will be when something goes wrong and they have to rally themselves without him at the helm. As adversity shows how well a team works.

Off topic this is why I am interested to see what red bull do. They have already blamed Renault. Not a good sign

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[ang4f1]

Rumours re McLaren were strange, I suppose the Honda engine for 2015 caused it....but Jenson who walked from Ross' team that gave him WDC, is at Macca.......stuff that for a lark...

With all that dosh ......Ross can do what he wants...if & when he chooses.....& he deserves it...Good Luck Ross

It takes me so long to write a post....that someone has started another thread
about RBrawn....

[darwin dali]

Rumours re McLaren were strange, I suppose the Honda engine for 2015 caused it....but Jenson who walked from Ross' team that gave him WDC, is at Macca.......stuff that for a lark...

With all that dosh ......Ross can do what he wants...if & when he chooses.....& he deserves it...Good Luck Ross

It takes me so long to write a post....that someone has started another thread
about RBrawn....

Are you typing with your toes again?