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[la-ultima-curva]

and in other news:

The FIA have made a number of changes to the Sporting and Technical Regulations for the 2009 Formula One season, and the results of some have already been seen in testing.

In the case of the Sporting Regulations, the primary aims are increased reliability and further cost reductions. In the case of the technical changes, there are three main objectives - reducing the role of aerodynamics in the cars’ performance; making overtaking easier; and keeping lap times in check...

Tyres
After 10 seasons on grooved tyres, Formula One racing returns to slicks in 2009, as part of moves to increase the emphasis on mechanical rather than aerodynamic grip. With no grooves, grip will increase by around 20 percent, bringing a significant performance gain. However, that gain will be offset by the vastly reduced downforce levels of the revised aerodynamic regulations (see below). The overall effect should be reduced performance through high-speed corners. Drivers will still have the choice of two dry tyre compounds and will still have to use both compounds during a race.

KERS
From 2009 teams have the option of employing a Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS) to boost their car’s performance. As its name implies, a KERS recovers the (normally wasted) kinetic energy generated by the car’s braking process. This energy is stored using a mechanical flywheel or an electrical battery and then made available to the driver, in set amounts per lap, via a ‘boost button’ on the steering wheel. Under the current regulations the power gain equates to around 80 horsepower, available for just under seven seconds per lap. This could be worth several tenths of a second in terms of lap time, but the weight and packaging of the system - and its impact on the car’s weight distribution - also have to be taken into account.

Engines
In a move designed to boost reliability still further, drivers must now use the same engine for three, rather than two, consecutive events. There are also plans for measures to equalise engine performance between teams. How this will be achieved has not yet been finalised.

Aerodynamics
Along with slick tyres, this is the biggest area of change for 2009. Downforce will be dramatically reduced and the cars’ bodywork will appear much cleaner, thanks to new dimensional regulations that effectively outlaw extraneous items such as barge boards, winglets, turning vanes and chimneys.

As well as reducing overall aero performance, the revisions are also designed to increase overtaking by making the car less susceptible to turbulence when closely following another driver. The most obvious changes are to the front and rear wings.

The front wing becomes lower (75mm from 150mm) and wider (up from 1400 to 1800mm - the same width as the car) with driver-adjustable flaps. Drivers will be allowed to make two wing adjustments per lap, altering the wing angle over a six-degree range.

The rear wing becomes taller (up 150mm to bring it level with the top of the engine cover) and narrower (750mm from 1000mm).

Also at the back of the car, the diffuser has been moved rearwards, its leading edge now level with (rather than ahead of) the rear-wheel axle line. In addition, the diffuser has been made longer and higher, all changes that will reduce its ability to generate downforce.

Testing
2008’s testing allowance of 30,000 kilometres is expected to be slashed by a third to 20,000 in a bid to further reduce development costs.

http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2008/11/8741.html

[big ron]

Well I enjoy a good battle fight. Can't fight against Ferrari now can I. So target the enemy and have a little fun with the infidels of F1. Oops wrong word. I mean the F1 followers who don't accept Ferrari are the greatest and the all of F1.

AKR, you really are an annoying little oik! You rant on about Ferrari this and that and how much you hate McLaren, but to say you support F1 is a joke. You come across as a simple, obsessed little girl that needs to grow up. Having mentioned 'sport' a few times in this thread, I'd have expected you to know what sportsmanship actually means.

[2eyebrows]

And whats all this speak of 'enemy'? For christ sake, its just sport ... entertainment at the end of the day and in the grand scheme of life completely f*cking pointless.

[2eyebrows]

and in other news:

The FIA have made a number of changes to the Sporting and Technical Regulations for the 2009 Formula One season, and the results of some have already been seen in testing.

In the case of the Sporting Regulations, the primary aims are increased reliability and further cost reductions. In the case of the technical changes, there are three main objectives - reducing the role of aerodynamics in the cars’ performance; making overtaking easier; and keeping lap times in check...

Tyres
After 10 seasons on grooved tyres, Formula One racing returns to slicks in 2009, as part of moves to increase the emphasis on mechanical rather than aerodynamic grip. With no grooves, grip will increase by around 20 percent, bringing a significant performance gain. However, that gain will be offset by the vastly reduced downforce levels of the revised aerodynamic regulations (see below). The overall effect should be reduced performance through high-speed corners. Drivers will still have the choice of two dry tyre compounds and will still have to use both compounds during a race.

KERS
From 2009 teams have the option of employing a Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS) to boost their car’s performance. As its name implies, a KERS recovers the (normally wasted) kinetic energy generated by the car’s braking process. This energy is stored using a mechanical flywheel or an electrical battery and then made available to the driver, in set amounts per lap, via a ‘boost button’ on the steering wheel. Under the current regulations the power gain equates to around 80 horsepower, available for just under seven seconds per lap. This could be worth several tenths of a second in terms of lap time, but the weight and packaging of the system - and its impact on the car’s weight distribution - also have to be taken into account.

Engines
In a move designed to boost reliability still further, drivers must now use the same engine for three, rather than two, consecutive events. There are also plans for measures to equalise engine performance between teams. How this will be achieved has not yet been finalised.

Aerodynamics
Along with slick tyres, this is the biggest area of change for 2009. Downforce will be dramatically reduced and the cars’ bodywork will appear much cleaner, thanks to new dimensional regulations that effectively outlaw extraneous items such as barge boards, winglets, turning vanes and chimneys.

As well as reducing overall aero performance, the revisions are also designed to increase overtaking by making the car less susceptible to turbulence when closely following another driver. The most obvious changes are to the front and rear wings.

The front wing becomes lower (75mm from 150mm) and wider (up from 1400 to 1800mm - the same width as the car) with driver-adjustable flaps. Drivers will be allowed to make two wing adjustments per lap, altering the wing angle over a six-degree range.

The rear wing becomes taller (up 150mm to bring it level with the top of the engine cover) and narrower (750mm from 1000mm).

Also at the back of the car, the diffuser has been moved rearwards, its leading edge now level with (rather than ahead of) the rear-wheel axle line. In addition, the diffuser has been made longer and higher, all changes that will reduce its ability to generate downforce.

Testing
2008’s testing allowance of 30,000 kilometres is expected to be slashed by a third to 20,000 in a bid to further reduce development costs.

http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2008/11/8741.html

to be honest, as much as we hate some of the new rules, especially ones effecting the aesthetics of the car, its going to be a very interesting Aussie GP, and even more interesting to see how the season pans out with consideration to the effects of the aero tweaks. and overtaking - how much will we really see?

[la-ultima-curva]

to be honest, as much as we hate some of the new rules, especially ones effecting the aesthetics of the car, its going to be a very interesting Aussie GP, and even more interesting to see how the season pans out with consideration to the effects of the aero tweaks. and overtaking - how much will we really see?

me too!
i must admit all this hoo-haa about next year has my interest piqued and the prospect of more competitive racing has me counting down the days till melbourne. hopefully it'll prove to as exciting as this year was and another close fight till the end... thats if the medals system is not introduced

[texasmr2]

Yes sir it should be an exciting season if all the new regs achieve the desired outcome.

[2eyebrows]

Yes sir it should be an exciting season if all the new regs achieve the desired outcome.

even if they don't, there'll be much to talk about in the ealry races ... before we start whining about the good 'ol days

[big ron]

to be honest, as much as we hate some of the new rules, especially ones effecting the aesthetics of the car, its going to be a very interesting Aussie GP, and even more interesting to see how the season pans out with consideration to the effects of the aero tweaks. and overtaking - how much will we really see?

I hope it's a more level playing field, but I'd be having a little laugh to myself if we see no overtaking for the first few races, combined with one driver taking the first nine victories and pishing all over max and bernies changes.Alas, I'd probably switch off soon after...

[AKR]

Well I enjoy a good battle fight. Can't fight against Ferrari now can I. So target the enemy and have a little fun with the infidels of F1. Oops wrong word. I mean the F1 followers who don't accept Ferrari are the greatest and the all of F1.

AKR, you really are an annoying little oik! You rant on about Ferrari this and that and how much you hate McLaren, but to say you support F1 is a joke. You come across as a simple, obsessed little girl that needs to grow up. Having mentioned 'sport' a few times in this thread, I'd have expected you to know what sportsmanship actually means.

If you say so............................... By the way I know what supporing my team means. That is all that matters. How I support them and react to rivals is irrelvant.

[la-ultima-curva]

Well I enjoy a good battle fight. Can't fight against Ferrari now can I. So target the enemy and have a little fun with the infidels of F1. Oops wrong word. I mean the F1 followers who don't accept Ferrari are the greatest and the all of F1.

AKR, you really are an annoying little oik! You rant on about Ferrari this and that and how much you hate McLaren, but to say you support F1 is a joke. You come across as a simple, obsessed little girl that needs to grow up. Having mentioned 'sport' a few times in this thread, I'd have expected you to know what sportsmanship actually means.

If you say so............................... By the way I know what supporing my team means. That is all that matters. How I support them and react to rivals is irrelvant.

please, just for today, keep this thread on topic.

many thanks

[2eyebrows]

agreed, but i've given this some though ... its typical post season syndrome and it gets worse. Testing will help bringing something fresh to talk about

[scotty]

agreed, but i've given this some though ... its typical post season syndrome and it gets worse. Testing will help bringing something fresh to talk about

It's like this all the time mate, testing and the new season will change nothing....

[Gaz]

Well I enjoy a good battle fight. Can't fight against Ferrari now can I. So target the enemy and have a little fun with the infidels of F1. Oops wrong word. I mean the F1 followers who don't accept Ferrari are the greatest and the all of F1.

AKR, you really are an annoying little oik! You rant on about Ferrari this and that and how much you hate McLaren, but to say you support F1 is a joke. You come across as a simple, obsessed little girl that needs to grow up. Having mentioned 'sport' a few times in this thread, I'd have expected you to know what sportsmanship actually means.

If you say so............................... By the way I know what supporing my team means. That is all that matters. How I support them and react to rivals is irrelvant.

Thing is AKR you don't support Ferrari you just think they can do no wrong and are perfect.

What you do is go on about how s*** Mclaren and anything associated with Mclaren is.

If i were new to this fourm and you didn't have a sig which said "i support ferrari" i'd assume you were an alonso fan.

lol

[AKR]

Well I enjoy a good battle fight. Can't fight against Ferrari now can I. So target the enemy and have a little fun with the infidels of F1. Oops wrong word. I mean the F1 followers who don't accept Ferrari are the greatest and the all of F1.

AKR, you really are an annoying little oik! You rant on about Ferrari this and that and how much you hate McLaren, but to say you support F1 is a joke. You come across as a simple, obsessed little girl that needs to grow up. Having mentioned 'sport' a few times in this thread, I'd have expected you to know what sportsmanship actually means.

If you say so............................... By the way I know what supporing my team means. That is all that matters. How I support them and react to rivals is irrelvant.

Thing is AKR you don't support Ferrari you just think they can do no wrong and are perfect.

What you do is go on about how s*** Mclaren and anything associated with Mclaren is.

If i were new to this fourm and you didn't have a sig which said "i support ferrari" i'd assume you were an alonso fan.

lol

How dare you insult me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I am not a Ferrari supporter then I am Micky Mouse's girlfriend and you're not an Englishman!

[texasmr2]

Good one AKR.