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[EwanM]

There is no evidence whatsoever that Alonso is better than lewis even with Lewis' inexperience.

2 World Driver's Championships?

Give the lad time. Talk like this is the reason why so many people jump on the Hamilton backlash bandwagon everytime he messes up.

Lewis wasnt in those championships.

If Alonso is better then he should have been able to beat lewis, he was a double champion and yet still making errors. lewis was a rookie, erors go with that territory. i dont expect him not to make errors but i get annoyed when people harp on about it while ignoring Alonso making errors aplenty.

If you are talking bout the errors he is making this year, it isn't really a problem I think. Alonso has nothing to lose pushing hard, he isn't fighting for the title, so he should push as hard.
We all seen in 2005 when the Ferrari was terrible, Schumacher making alot of mistakes, but he was doing the exact same thing, he had nothing to lose and it didn't reduce any of his talent.

I was referring more to last years errors. I realise this year he is trying to make up for the car but that does not excuse that crass move in monacco.

Nothing to lose though, was a bit too aggressive.
If Hamilton had made a similar move people would be seriously be defending him.

[racechick]

There is no evidence whatsoever that Alonso is better than lewis even with Lewis' inexperience.

2 World Driver's Championships?

Give the lad time. Talk like this is the reason why so many people jump on the Hamilton backlash bandwagon everytime he messes up.

Lewis wasnt in those championships.

If Alonso is better then he should have been able to beat lewis, he was a double champion and yet still making errors. lewis was a rookie, erors go with that territory. i dont expect him not to make errors but i get annoyed when people harp on about it while ignoring Alonso making errors aplenty.

If you are talking bout the errors he is making this year, it isn't really a problem I think. Alonso has nothing to lose pushing hard, he isn't fighting for the title, so he should push as hard.
We all seen in 2005 when the Ferrari was terrible, Schumacher making alot of mistakes, but he was doing the exact same thing, he had nothing to lose and it didn't reduce any of his talent.

I was referring more to last years errors. I realise this year he is trying to make up for the car but that does not excuse that crass move in monacco.

Nothing to lose though, was a bit too aggressive.
If Hamilton had made a similar move people would be seriously be defending him.

Dont make me laugh!! You not bin readin the slatin he bin gettinn over the last two races??? Alonso may have had nothing to loose but he drove the car like a granny in a supermarket carpark.

[EwanM]

There is no evidence whatsoever that Alonso is better than lewis even with Lewis' inexperience.

2 World Driver's Championships?

Give the lad time. Talk like this is the reason why so many people jump on the Hamilton backlash bandwagon everytime he messes up.

Lewis wasnt in those championships.

If Alonso is better then he should have been able to beat lewis, he was a double champion and yet still making errors. lewis was a rookie, erors go with that territory. i dont expect him not to make errors but i get annoyed when people harp on about it while ignoring Alonso making errors aplenty.

If you are talking bout the errors he is making this year, it isn't really a problem I think. Alonso has nothing to lose pushing hard, he isn't fighting for the title, so he should push as hard.
We all seen in 2005 when the Ferrari was terrible, Schumacher making alot of mistakes, but he was doing the exact same thing, he had nothing to lose and it didn't reduce any of his talent.

I was referring more to last years errors. I realise this year he is trying to make up for the car but that does not excuse that crass move in monacco.

Nothing to lose though, was a bit too aggressive.
If Hamilton had made a similar move people would be seriously be defending him.

Dont make me laugh!! You not bin readin the slatin he bin gettinn over the last two races??? Alonso may have had nothing to loose but he drove the car like a granny in a supermarket carpark.

Just like Hamilton yes, but whoses in the title fight this year? Whoses mistakes will end up costly?

[racechick]

Hamilton was at speed Alonso was slowmoing round a corner. Lewis is all but a rookie alonso should know better.

PS. Lewis fastest at Silverstone today

[EwanM]

Hamilton was at speed Alonso was slowmoing round a corner. Lewis is all but a rookie alonso should know better.

PS. Lewis fastest at Silverstone today

Not a rookie anymore, he's Mclaren's team leader. And Lewis was mean to be creeping up to the Canadian pit exit...

PS. Mclaren's updates may have come at a vital time.

[racechick]

Hamilton was at speed Alonso was slowmoing round a corner. Lewis is all but a rookie alonso should know better.

PS. Lewis fastest at Silverstone today

Not a rookie anymore, he's Mclaren's team leader. And Lewis was mean to be creeping up to the Canadian pit exit...

PS. Mclaren's updates may have come at a vital time.

I said all but a rookie...
Yes the updates are timely. Now the McLaren may be on a par with the Ferrari so Lewis will not have to overcome a performance deficit

[EwanM]

Hamilton was at speed Alonso was slowmoing round a corner. Lewis is all but a rookie alonso should know better.

PS. Lewis fastest at Silverstone today

Not a rookie anymore, he's Mclaren's team leader. And Lewis was mean to be creeping up to the Canadian pit exit...

PS. Mclaren's updates may have come at a vital time.

I said all but a rookie...
Yes the updates are timely. Now the McLaren may be on a par with the Ferrari so Lewis will not have to overcome a performance deficit

At the likes of Silverstone and other long cornered circuits possibly. Mclaren will need to hope so, they have proved that they are alot better than they were last year at "Ferrari" circuits, but remember Bahrain, they were way off.
Furthermore, the likes of Canada were crucial rounds for Mclaren, but if they have improved in their weak areas it may prove worthwhile.

[Mikep99]

Good article on the Hammeroide.

Is Lewis Hamilton the new Ayrton Senna?Clicky

Who you gonna call

[racechick]

Good article on the Hammeroide.

Is Lewis Hamilton the new Ayrton Senna?Clicky

Who you gonna call

GHOST BUSTERS!!
Not a bad article but falls somwhat short in its analysis. Both guys seriously talented and ferociously determined also both guys convinced of their own talent. I think the article more or less agreed on that. The article said Senna was very independant in how he went about securing his F1 career(as opposed to Lewis who had McLaren backing from the age of 14). yes factually correct. However, iIt is easy to branch out independently when your family are extremely rich for many reasons.
You have a top class education behind you.
You are brought up to be comfortable with the rich and successful.
You have a world of sponsorship at your fingertips.
You know powerful people.
You can conduct yourself easily in any company.
You can afford to fail (monetarily if not emotionally)
You have a safety net,
Lewis had none of the above. He had to make his way differently. His father didnt even have a house, he lived in a council flat. He had no fortune to fall back on, he had to make it to achieve the fortune. Lewis had far more on the line. Pretty much all he had was his talent and his belief in it. Don't knock him for doing what he had to do. Senna did what he had to do, it was different, doesnt make either way right or wrong, just different.

[Mikep99]

Looks like everything the Hammoroid gets involved in of late goes wrong.
Hopefully it continues next week
I wonder if the FIA had anything to do with this one as well.

HAMILTON DISQUALIFIED AFTER CRASH
http://www.sportinglife.com/formula1/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=formula1/08/06/28/AUTO_Hamilton_Nightlead.html
British Formula One star Lewis Hamilton was involved in yet another high-speed collision on Saturday - but this time it was on the water in the JPMorgan Asset Management Round the Island Race.
The McLaren driver was aboard double Olympic gold medallist Ben Ainslie's Hugo Boss boat, which was disqualified for its part in an incident which broke the mast of a fellow competitor - just three weeks after Hamilton's crash into the back of Kimi Raikkonen's Ferrari at the Montreal Grand Prix.
And 23-year-old Hamilton, who will be hoping for better luck in next week's British Grand Prix, insists he enjoyed the experience despite the crash.
"I am gutted because it is a beautiful boat and I have been to the front and the bow has been snapped off," he said.
"This is the first time I have been on a sailing boat. It is very technical and the cool thing is it has a lot in common with Formula One.
"It is very complex and I was very fortunate they allowed me to drive it for 30-40 minutes but surprisingly I did a pretty good job.
"Working with Ben Ainslie has been phenomenal, especially with him on the same boat telling me I am doing a good job.
"This is one of the coolest things I have ever done and I will hopefully I will be invited here again."
Britain's America's Cup strategist Rob Greenhalgh helped TeamOrigin take the honours in the JPMorgan Asset Management Cup after completing the 55-mile Isle of Wight course in a time of three hours 23 minutes and 50 seconds.
Over 13,000 people aboard 1,875 boats - a record entry for the Round the Island Race - took part, including Beijing Olympic medal contenders Paul Goodison, Joe Glanfield and Nick Rogers along with Dame Ellen MacArthur.
Race winner Greenhalgh is already setting his sights on America's Cup glory for Britain.
"The Brits were not involved in the last America's Cup so it is fantastic to be getting involved again," he said.
"We have got the basis for a very good team now we need a rule and a date so we can start designing and start working towards the goal of winning it."

[darwin dali]

Good article on the Hammeroide.

Is Lewis Hamilton the new Ayrton Senna?Clicky

Who you gonna call

GHOST BUSTERS!!
Not a bad article but falls somwhat short in its analysis. Both guys seriously talented and ferociously determined also both guys convinced of their own talent. I think the article more or less agreed on that. The article said Senna was very independant in how he went about securing his F1 career(as opposed to Lewis who had McLaren backing from the age of 14). yes factually correct. However, iIt is easy to branch out independently when your family are extremely rich for many reasons.
You have a top class education behind you.
You are brought up to be comfortable with the rich and successful.
You have a world of sponsorship at your fingertips.
You know powerful people.
You can conduct yourself easily in any company.
You can afford to fail (monetarily if not emotionally)
You have a safety net,
Lewis had none of the above. He had to make his way differently. His father didnt even have a house, he lived in a council flat. He had no fortune to fall back on, he had to make it to achieve the fortune. Lewis had far more on the line. Pretty much all he had was his talent and his belief in it. Don't knock him for doing what he had to do. Senna did what he had to do, it was different, doesnt make either way right or wrong, just different.

Agreed

Scary huh? We agree?
Well, as long as the topic is NOT Mr. Chubby...

[Mikep99]

Good article on the Hammeroide.

Is Lewis Hamilton the new Ayrton Senna?Clicky

Who you gonna call

GHOST BUSTERS!!
Not a bad article but falls somwhat short in its analysis. Both guys seriously talented and ferociously determined also both guys convinced of their own talent. I think the article more or less agreed on that. The article said Senna was very independant in how he went about securing his F1 career(as opposed to Lewis who had McLaren backing from the age of 14). yes factually correct. However, iIt is easy to branch out independently when your family are extremely rich for many reasons.
You have a top class education behind you.
You are brought up to be comfortable with the rich and successful.
You have a world of sponsorship at your fingertips.
You know powerful people.
You can conduct yourself easily in any company.
You can afford to fail (monetarily if not emotionally)
You have a safety net,
Lewis had none of the above. He had to make his way differently. His father didnt even have a house, he lived in a council flat. He had no fortune to fall back on, he had to make it to achieve the fortune. Lewis had far more on the line. Pretty much all he had was his talent and his belief in it. Don't knock him for doing what he had to do. Senna did what he had to do, it was different, doesnt make either way right or wrong, just different.

Yes very good point.
But Senna earned his spot in a top team the hard way where as Hammy had it handed to him on a plate. Yeh he performed well in the lower formulas but I wonder how he would have gone trying to impress in a back marker in F1
But when you compare him and some of the others like Kubica then it's a very different story & this is why I admire drivers like Kubica more than Hammy no matter what he may achieve.
I wonder what Kubica would be doing if he had the same carpet ride

[racechick]

Pretty similar I imagine. He's closest to Hammy on talent

[darwin dali]

Pretty similar I imagine. He's closest to Hammy on talent

I rate RK higher than LH for two reasons: raw speed and fewer mistakes.

[Mikep99]

Pretty similar I imagine. He's closest to Hammy on talent

I rate RK higher than LH for two reasons: raw speed and fewer mistakes.

I agree, especially the mistakes part.