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One for mnm.....

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/22058/9568883/lewis-hamilton-v-nico-rosberg-the-numbers-behind-the-duel-for-the-2014-title

Quali Head to Head
Number of pole positions:
Hamilton: 7 (Australia, Malaysia, China, Spain, Italy, Singapore, Russia).
Rosberg: 10 (Bahrain, Monaco, Canada, Great Britain, Germany, Hungary, Belgium, Japan, United States, Brazil).

Number of times to have qualified ahead of their team-mate:
Hamilton: 7 (Australia, Malaysia, China, Spain, Italy, Singapore, Russia).
Rosberg: 11 (Bahrain, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Great Britain, Germany, Hungary, Belgium, Japan, United States, Brazil).

Number of races started behind the front row:
Hamilton: 4 (Austria, Great Britain, Germany, Hungary).
Rosberg: 4 (Australia, Malaysia, China, Austria).

Average Qualy positions:
Hamilton: 3.50.
Rosberg: 1.72.

Race Day head-to-head
Number of wins:
Hamilton: 10 (Malaysia, Bahrain, China, Spain, Britain, Italy, Singapore, Japan, Russia, United States).
Rosberg: 5 (Australia, Monaco, Austria, Germany, Brazil).

Number of wins from the pole:
Hamilton: 6 (Malaysia, China, Spain, Italy, Singapore, Russia).
Rosberg: 3 (Monaco, Germany, Brazil).

Number of times on podium:
Hamilton: 15 (10 x 1st, 3 x 2nd, 2 x 3rd).
Rosberg: 15 (5 x 1st, 10 x 2nd).

Number of fastest laps:
Hamilton: 7 (Malaysia, Britain, Germany, Italy, Singapore, Japan, Brazil).
Rosberg: 4 (Australia, Bahrain, China, Hungary).

Number of race retirements:
Hamilton: Three (Australia, Canada, Belgium).
Rosberg: Two (Great Britain, Singapore).

Number of times ahead in two-car race finish:
Hamilton: 9 (Malaysia, Bahrain, China, Spain, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Russia, United States).
Rosberg: 4 (Monaco, Austria, Germany, Brazil).

And.....
Number of sessions (P1, P2, P3, Q1, Q2, Q3, Race) topped:
Hamilton: 60.
Rosberg: 47.

Number of races at head of championship:
Hamilton: 6.
Rosberg: 12.

Biggest championship lead:
Hamilton: 24 points (after U.S. GP).
Rosberg: 29 points (after Austrian and Belgian GPs).

[CookinFlat6]

Lets not forget the tag team act of Nico who spanked MS senseless and pushed him toward retirement and Lewis who opened the door and deftly avoided him as he crashed out, side stepping the once dqed cheat neatly to take his seat

Quite a class act those 2, dispatched MS and Alonso like envelopes without breaking sweat, just warming up to take each other on this year

(incase I exaggerate or even fabricate anything along the way, I will 'Mea Culpa' it away later)

That's obviously a biased and subjective recount of what happened.
What you have failed to mention is that Schumi was at Mercedes more
than long enough to help develop the car into what it is today, by your
own signature: a Monster. BOTH Hamilton and Rosberg owe him!

Predictably you will argue with that; but, that's just you being you!

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Excuse me Sagi...while MS was there, the car was a tyre chewing DOG. It chewed up its tyres and going backwards in 2012 and in 2013 when he had left the scene, it was still a tyre chewing DOG with more PACE. Lewis and Nico OWE MS? You must be out of your mind.

2014 is a completely new era with the new engine, new aero, different suspensions to accommodate the engines, etcetc. Nico and Lewis OWE Nico and Lewis, Ross Brawn, Costa and the engineering team, the winter testing, the illegal Barcelona test (Lol), and their feedback throughout the year in the simulators preparing for 2014s Monster. Not the Politicking Maestro who got b!tchslapped by Nico 2 years running and contributed his Bridgestone knowledge to make the W04 a tyre chewer. PLEASE know your facts, understand what you're saying before hitting post.

Ross Brawn is down as saying he was happy MS decided to leave as the diection of the car development could now be changed, I quoted that ages ago on here with my own conclusion that Ross couldnt wait to provide MS with the taxi fare.
Its amazing how someone can turn up and say 'your opinion is biased because my opinion is something else'

Mindboggling that any adult cannot get this basic premise of the difference between fact and opinion and how arguing about OPINIONS or ASSUMPTIONS is as useful as a chocolate teapot - then they say I love my team and thats why am biased against them

THIS IS NOT A PLAYGROUND FOR KIDS TO ARGUE ABOUT HALFBAKED VIEW POINTS OF THE WORLD

Its a place for ADULTS to exchange knowledge and become richer intellectually
I mean how can anyone who has gone on and on about the 2014 engines even say the length of a time a driver was at the team BEFORE 2014 is correlated toward the evolution of the car AFTER 2014

Its worse than a playground, its like the waiting room at the hairdressers for 'women who do lunch' and watch 'house wifes of F1'

[What's Burning?]

^^ that's your opinion, and everyone's opinion is just as valid. That's why I often respond to Steven Hawking's blog questioning his opinion on quantum theory.

[CookinFlat6]

Oh yeah, I did that once, I told Hawking that my opinion was that he was mentally weak. And when he asked me on what basis I opinied this, I told him he misunderstood what it meant to be mentally weak and that it was therefore pointless expecting me to explain

He no longer sends me invites to string theory symposia only to Pantos at Christmas

[Nin-Chin]

This is a good article on Nico Rosberg. Lewis' one will come tomorrow.

Lewis' article is up.

[racechick]

It's brilliant Nin Chin! Someone posted it in the Lewis thread. Great article.

[sagi58]

Lets not forget the tag team act of Nico who spanked MS senseless and pushed him toward retirement and Lewis who opened the door and deftly avoided him as he crashed out, side stepping the once dqed cheat neatly to take his seat

Quite a class act those 2, dispatched MS and Alonso like envelopes without breaking sweat, just warming up to take each other on this year

(incase I exaggerate or even fabricate anything along the way, I will 'Mea Culpa' it away later)

That's obviously a biased and subjective recount of what happened.
What you have failed to mention is that Schumi was at Mercedes more
than long enough to help develop the car into what it is today, by your
own signature: a Monster. BOTH Hamilton and Rosberg owe him!

Predictably you will argue with that; but, that's just you being you!

...Mindboggling that any adult cannot get this basic premise of the difference between fact and opinion and how arguing about OPINIONS or ASSUMPTIONS is as useful as a chocolate teapot - then they say I love my team and thats why am biased against them

THIS IS NOT A PLAYGROUND FOR KIDS TO ARGUE ABOUT HALFBAKED VIEW POINTS OF THE WORLD

Its a place for ADULTS to exchange knowledge and become richer intellectually
I mean how can anyone who has gone on and on about the 2014 engines even say the length of a time a driver was at the team BEFORE 2014 is correlated toward the evolution of the car AFTER 2014

Its worse than a playground, its like the waiting room at the hairdressers for 'women who do lunch' and watch 'house wifes of F1'

You never disappoint, when it comes to needing to have the last word.
Good for you!

Anyway... do you actually believe that Mercedes needed/wanted "no" input
whatsoever from Schumi? That's a pretty arrogant assumption to be making,
considering they did what they could to lure him out of retirement. I would
wager that he has forgotten more about F1 than most people will ever know.
And, please, spare me the ridiculously childish jokes about him being in a coma.
That would be beneath even you to make such a comment.

As for the evolution of the 2014, I was under the assumption that Mercedes had
been working on this car for years and years, not just the relatively short period
of time that Schumi left/Hamilton arrived. I was also under the impression that
Mercedes has been so successful because of all the years and years of hard work,
research and development they have put into this engine. Or would you have
little old me believe that it's only since Schumi left/Hamilton arrived that Mercedes
have miraculously built the best engine on the grid, this year?

As for your ridiculous rhetoric, I have to say, I am able to overlook it because
I consider the source.

[sagi58]

^^ that's your opinion, and everyone's opinion is just as valid...

[overboost]

Interesting commentary on the Rosberg vs Hamilton thing from an esteemed group of F1 drivers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formul ... paign=1490

STEWART: Historically the championship has been more warmly received when it has been achieved by the driver who has won most races. The year has been rather spoiled by the domination of Mercedes. But Nico Rosberg has behaved very well, presented himself very well. I didn’t like Lewis’s behaviour in Monaco (when he was angry at Rosberg’s crash impeding his final qualifying lap). That tainted my appreciation of him because it wasn’t one day that he sulked, but two. He should have been able to ride over it.

Stewart is not usually the brightest bulb but even he can see that the season was spoiled by the Merc domination.

Also they all agree that Monaco really hurt Lewis's reputation and that Spa showed the Senna in Rosberg according to Watson. Hill adds that Mercedes wrongly humiliated Rosberg for the Spa contact. Interesting insights. Lewis is tipped to win it all.

[What's Burning?]

Interesting commentary on the Rosberg vs Hamilton thing from an esteemed group of F1 drivers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formul ... paign=1490

STEWART: Historically the championship has been more warmly received when it has been achieved by the driver who has won most races. The year has been rather spoiled by the domination of Mercedes. But Nico Rosberg has behaved very well, presented himself very well. I didn’t like Lewis’s behaviour in Monaco (when he was angry at Rosberg’s crash impeding his final qualifying lap). That tainted my appreciation of him because it wasn’t one day that he sulked, but two. He should have been able to ride over it.

Stewart is not usually the brightest bulb but even he can see that the season was spoiled by the Merc domination.

Also they all agree that Monaco really hurt Lewis's reputation and that Spa showed the Senna in Rosberg according to Watson. Hill adds that Mercedes wrongly humiliated Rosberg for the Spa contact. Interesting insights. Lewis is tipped to win it all.

Four people related to F1 sitting around talking about the greatest talent on the grid. I warms my heart. They were booing the last dominant driver but a year ago. This season, it's been real competition. Too bad Red Bull and Ferrari had to clue how to put an engine together. Perhaps Honda can show them? I have two cases of beer, a wonderful Jamon Iberico de Bellota and lots of other goodies for the weekend's celebrations. Sigh... If only you could experience but a third of the joy I feel.

[CookinFlat6]

Stewart is not usually the brightest bulb but even he can see that the season was spoiled by the Merc domination.

And even overboost can see what Stewart illuminates

[racechick]

Interesting commentary on the Rosberg vs Hamilton thing from an esteemed group of F1 drivers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formul ... paign=1490

STEWART: Historically the championship has been more warmly received when it has been achieved by the driver who has won most races. The year has been rather spoiled by the domination of Mercedes. But Nico Rosberg has behaved very well, presented himself very well. I didn’t like Lewis’s behaviour in Monaco (when he was angry at Rosberg’s crash impeding his final qualifying lap). That tainted my appreciation of him because it wasn’t one day that he sulked, but two. He should have been able to ride over it.

Stewart is not usually the brightest bulb but even he can see that the season was spoiled by the Merc domination.

Also they all agree that Monaco really hurt Lewis's reputation and that Spa showed the Senna in Rosberg according to Watson. Hill adds that Mercedes wrongly humiliated Rosberg for the Spa contact. Interesting insights. Lewis is tipped to win it all.

Well what a rubbish article. Had to be put together by good old McEvoy didn't it.

Stewart. The Stewart who had to be reminded by Senna what racing is all about. So it's ok to spoil a competitors lap ( and that is now the consensus up and down the pitlane, even Brundle has come to that conclusion) but it's not ok to be pissed off about having that done to you. That attitude beggars belief. Oh and he likes the little touch Risberg displayed at Spa.

Watson. Says Lauda favours Lewis in public and that's wrong. Well LAUDA speaks his mind. He said Nico was wrong at Spa and it was his fault. He also said last race that Nico did the best job all weekend. Strange how quiet Watson was on this subject when Whitmarsh was favouring one driver in public.
And then we have the whole rock star, distracted, earring , low intelligence debate rolled out. Again! Give it a break! Go read Buxton guys, someone who actually knows Lewis, and spare us the soundbites.

[CookinFlat6]

RC, everyone in F1 knows how much Stewart likes to be heard even when he hasnt a clue, as his own fans point out - Jackie aint the brightest bulb in the tulip field

But it makes sense that some clingons will find sense in Stewarts 'alternative' yet extremely boring sounding deilvery

I bet Gary 'Overboost' Anderson also is one of the rare ones who understands Stewart, maybe thats why he was sacked by the BBC - for being as clever as Jackie

[racechick]

Why bother quoting someone if you have to put a rider in that you know they talk rubbish?

[CookinFlat6]

I think you answered your own question there RC but are too polite to point it out

theres an expression along the lines of - 'who is the bigger genius? the genius or the one who follows the genius'

and we even have a commonly used smiley that describes the phenomena really well

some would even say 'stupid is as stupid does' but obviously not on this forum

thats actually from a really funny film